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Rock, it's not about having a different opinion, it's about elaborating it.
Mass Effect 3 SPOILER THREAD: LOTS OF SPECULATION FROM EVERYONE
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heliosRAzi
Banned
It's a cycle
I still stand by that I enjoyed the ending and I think it was good.
I'd even be happy with thinking that the meeting between Shepard and the Starchild didn't even exist, and that Shepard was dead on the crucible.
Isn't Shepard already a zombie?
Pollux
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Metroid-Squadron
Banned
They want everyone to be converted into Mass Effect haters.
Have you read into indoctrination theory?
How? Mass Effect. <3
However, if you can't be critical about that which you love, then what can you be critical about?
Uno Venova
Banned
When did you finish it?
heliosRAzi
Banned
Your descent into SPECULATION is clear. We have seen this repeated many times in this thread.
This screenshot has more choice options than all of ME3.Guys i found a way to get a new ending!
*trollface*
Rebel Leader
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We hate the ending NOT the series. To some of use the ending made it fell like why should we replay the games when the ending is the same?
dragonelite
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mass effect 3 spoiler ot2 all we want is a happy ending.
Just cut the ending when Anderson went down.
Let the codex guy tell the epilogue with a slide show.
And in happy if Shepard makes it out alive if war asset is high enough.
People with their cliche sad ending.
The whole London area felt like Shepard was going to die and with shitty closure for former squad mates that were off site or in space.
And if Shepard has too die for our sins.
Then atleast let me hurt Harbinger and go out with a bang.
Or why not have the crucible deploy some kind off energy field that somehow disables reapers defend functions. Most of the reapers are in the sol system so the rest shouldn't be too hard to finish off with a galatic fleet.
Or else fuck this shit and maybe I should go play medieval RPG where magic makes sense.
Just cut the ending when Anderson went down.
Let the codex guy tell the epilogue with a slide show.
And in happy if Shepard makes it out alive if war asset is high enough.
People with their cliche sad ending.
The whole London area felt like Shepard was going to die and with shitty closure for former squad mates that were off site or in space.
And if Shepard has too die for our sins.
Then atleast let me hurt Harbinger and go out with a bang.
Or why not have the crucible deploy some kind off energy field that somehow disables reapers defend functions. Most of the reapers are in the sol system so the rest shouldn't be too hard to finish off with a galatic fleet.
Or else fuck this shit and maybe I should go play medieval RPG where magic makes sense.
Diatribe1974
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Well, after the disaster that was Dragon Age 2 and now Mass Effect 3, I find it easy to say to myself "Ya know....if I never get another Bioware game again, I honestly won't be that upset." (considering that I spent over 300 hours combined time in DA:O and ME2)
heliosRAzi
Banned
He clearly missed us stating what we liked about the game. Most of ME3 is great, it's just those last few minutes where things fall apart horrendously.
Freeza Under The Shower
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nah, it just means that some child has a really lousy imagination.
like, directly of the internet and photoshop it imagination.
As far as I'm concerned, people start rebuilding ships and infrastructure immediately and the whole winter space thing is just some meta-throw at our current state. I don't care what Bioware states on it. Culture does not just dissappear, not does knowledge. Certainly not with a full AI present and accounted for.
So the whole "galactic dark age" is complete horseshit. Even the mass relays could be rebuild eventually.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Serious question - has anyone figured out a) why the Citadel was moved to Earth and b) how it moved in the first place?
Does anyone here hate the series? I don't.
B) It has a mass relay within it, but it could have been moved with other relays and pushed by the bigger Reapers.
A) The Citadel was probably moved to Earth where there were the most Reapers.
B) It has a mass relay within it, but it could have been moved with other relays and pushed by the bigger Reapers.
Hell Nah!
I finished ME1 and ME2 4 times each. I love this series. I just hate the ending. The ending probably sucks more the more you love the series.
Rebel Leader
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No one but the protheans have been able to understand the mass relays.
I'm not at the point where I will definitively never buy a Bioware game again but I'm going to pay closer attention to what they do put out. Even though I enjoyed ME3 it was still not a very deep RPG and it's clear they want to push more action games out than RPGs. They added some elements to 3 but took some out too like some have mentioned, like hacking and pretty much all non-combat things to do outside of gathering fetch quests including taking exploration out completely.
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Deleted member 81567
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You guys might cut my genitals off, but I actually like DA2 alot.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
If the Citadel is the key to making the super weapon, why not MOVE IT THE FUCK OUT OF THE GALAXY.
And with a giant fleet, no one bothered thinking that they should stop the the Citadel from moving through the relay network?
Ask yourself this: What does space kid say? Shep being there proves his solution won't work any more (why? anybody's guess) and that the crucible opens up new possibilities (processing power? reach? something). Then what does he present you with right after that? What are the implications of those choices? Keep in mind what he's designed (or decided) to do these countless cycles. Save organics from creating synthetics that wipe them out for sure by preserving them in a reaper.
Blue: Let Shep control the reapers and hope that he either continues with the program or adapts it somehow with the original intent in mind. (I dunno, like, just target any rampaging synthetics maybe.)
Red: Jettison the whole thing, because 'give up' is apparently also a new solution. This only works once, so if synthetics ever rise up again - tough luck. (Again, this is apparently a valid solution.)
Green: Somehow merge synthetic and organic life. Never mind that this doesn't really preclude galaxy wide extermination from one party or the other from ever happening again. Unless we are meant to believe that merging will somehow pacify everyone.
Not only is this crap tacked on, it falls apart the moment it's introduced.
The motive of the Reapers just doesn't really fit the way they operate, not even the arbitrary time-span they chose to come back from dark space every time. The mechanism set in place for their return, the harvesting of only humans (in ME2), the whole 'advancing in the ways we want them to' through the technology they've left littered about...
Metroid-Squadron
Banned
If you only hate the ending, how would that prevent you from replaying the previous games?
You're entitled to your opinion.
You will recover.
I'll keep this high level: Just jump into the lasers!
Honestly though, it seems that they used the Citadel to process earthlings, later to be used as Reaper bits.
I never understand why people think we hate the series just because we are complaining about the ending (and for the very long mass effect bitching thread).
The very fact that we're spending so much time bitching indicates that we love and care about the series far too much.
Impossible!
heliosRAzi
Banned
Why didn't the Reapers just try to find the Crucible and then destroy it?
It's pretty AAAAwesome
Maybe, but the super nova literally threw the relay so far off people weren't sure where it wound up. I assume it's more like the difference of having a rock thrown at you and being close enough to an explosion to be thrown back, and given this is floating in a vacuum (and the fact they probably ARE designed to survive asteroid collisions because there's a lot of loose debris in space) I'd think the more likely result is just pushing it.
Maybe it's just the ending being sloppy, it certainly is in at least a few ways, but I think that specific phrasing of 'liberates enough energy' does imply the theory that it was all spent up THEN exploded in a more normal fashion.
Physics professors can only say so much in response to space magic! Still, I think most likely the wave either harms stuff mid-jump or electronics without shielding or whatever (Reapers seemed fine with green/blue and they're giant ships), and the explosion is just that, an isolated explosion of a relay, so long as it's not a super nova explosion it probably doesn't mean much unless the relay was right by a planet or something. In which case, yeah, that ring being hurled into the atmosphere alone would probably wreck things pretty badly.
Definitely.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Nah. When Take Back Omega DLC arrives I'll buy and, I assume, enjoy it. Same goes for other mission based DLC. I enjoy enough of the core Mass Effect gameplay, and the universe, to keep chewing on it, including future games. I'll also replay ME3 a few times, just like ME1 and ME2. Plus I dig the multiplayer.
But I am bummed they dicked up the ending so badly, and the above could change as my interest dwindles. I'm less excited about DLC missions because of the ending than I would normally be. Same goes for future Mass Effect games. Had the game ended on a more rational, grounded note I'd feel like I had completed the Shepard arc, and also be excited for where the story goes from here. Now I just expect pre-ME3 ending games and that's kinda eh.
This is one thing I thought about a lot during the game. Like you talk about it with some people over holo-chat, there's emails being sent about it from various people working on it and the Reapers never intercepted those? Legion mentioned in ME2 that the Geth monitor pretty much all organic transmissions and when the Reapers invade the first thing they do is knock most normal communications out, but they just forget to intercept emails?
Maybe he likes easy games and is a complete loot whore?
The separation between criticism and hate is ignored when people assume that criticism means hate.
How can they rebel against their creator? Impossible.
Rebel Leader
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Because regardless of what choices we made, the ending stays the same. Weither or not I save the council, wither or not I saved the collector base. Made peace with the Geth and tali's people, cured the genophage.. they don't matter
Freeza Under The Shower
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"maybe it's the actual Prothean standing next to you"
And EDI is made of Sovereign tech and all, so it shouldn't take her that much effort anyway. Regardless, in the synthesis ending there is literally NOTHING standing in the way of rebuilding everything, including mass relays, since everything is cool and all.
Unless you actually want the plants to get into space first. The fucking plants, man!
Then he should play a game like that that doesn't completely blow. Like Kingdoms of Amalur.
Freeza Under The Shower
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I kind of imagine that as a sneaky Bender move, including the hihihi.
Metroidvania
People called Romanes they go the house?
The main misunderstanding I see regarding the happy ending is that most proponents would like the CHOICE for a happy ending. They aren't demanding that a happy ending is necessary, nor the only problem that they want to see addressed, but given that ME1 and ME2 set precedent, an option for a happy ending having done EVERYTHING right, i.e. having an absurdly high galaxy readiness stat (lol, not like it's used for anything else atm), the choice remains.
The poll on BSN is rather limiting atm, and possibly misleading. It's the only real poll of its kind there that people seem to be looking at, where I know others regarding choice, no change, abc endings, etc.. have also been addressed.
The poll on BSN is rather limiting atm, and possibly misleading. It's the only real poll of its kind there that people seem to be looking at, where I know others regarding choice, no change, abc endings, etc.. have also been addressed.
It boggles my mind.
I love the ME series, one of my favourite this generation, I couldn't wait for ME3 to arrive, I have multiple Shepards on different paths and a bunch of ME media.
But just because I think it was one of the worst endings in a game I have played doesn't mean I hate the series, it does however put a sour note on playing through them again when regardless of what I do in any of the games the last 5 minutes will give me the same three options and play out essentially the same but in 3 different colours.
But then I don't really expect someone who, even after it had been explained a bunch of times while you were in the topic, still thought we don't like it because it wasn't happy rainbows and unicorns.
Dacon
Banned
How could they rebuild something they never understood?
dragonelite
Member
Wasn't it because of the radiation and other stuff masking it.
They knew where too look but not its precise location.
But then we do have space magic.
Oblivionmancer
Member
I still don't know why they didn't disable the entire mass relay network upon taking the citadel just like the original invasion plan that they used in every other cycle. I also don't know why upon reaching the relay network they didn't immediately go take the citadel to do that very thing.
The protheans were beginning to do it with the Conduit.
Well, they have the time to eventually rise to a level of knowledge that allows them to. Now that no galactic horrors are going to gobble them up before they develop to that point.
Or they think of some other way to travel across the galaxy at near instantaneous speeds. It doesn't really matter regardless.
Metroid-Squadron
Banned
So the only thing that matters is the ending?
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