Mass Effect 3 SPOILER THREAD: LOTS OF SPECULATION FROM EVERYONE

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Is there a good guide where I can get those kind of stuff? Because I think I've missed all of those----would really appreciate it.

The teenager is in the refugee area talking to the Turian desk clerk. The PTSD asari is in Huerta memorial behind a wall when you first walk in

This, and you have to exit and re-enter the areas to load the next bit of their respective stories.
 
BIOWARE!!! What is this: Jacob is in love with some doctor?!? I thought he loved Shepard! ANd now he's got some other chick knocked up. FUCK THAT! NO! hurr hurr go alien or we'll just tease you with James.


goddamn it this game!

OH SHIT. SOMEONE JUST GOT JERRY SPRINGER'D.
 
No it was bigace33, that's it
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I hated that her and Jacob are wearing the exact same clothes they just removed the cerberus patch. If anything says "lazy developer" it has to be that
I can't put my finger on it, but something about her face has changed, too. Her face is not as expressive, for whatever reason. Those ass-shots got a chuckle out of me at least. Can't be mad about that when they went as far as putting EDI in a sexy body.

Where does Orianna disappear to once you've got her father off her, btw? She seemed to vanish from the scene immediately. Another bug, or just sloppy?
 
Where does Orianna disappear to once you've got her father off her, btw? She seemed to vanish from the scene immediately. Another bug, or just sloppy?

Like every other minor character, she probably gets teleported to the Citadel where she can probably die off-screen.
 
I'd expect Miranda to have the good sense to go somewhere else.

Is there a good guide where I can get those kind of stuff? Because I think I've missed all of those----would really appreciate it.
Check Youtube. If there isn't a collection of those on there now there will be in the future for sure.

BULLET TO THE HEAD.
Man, that was rough. I only found out later that you could suggest an identity change to her.

But then again, everyone on the Citadel is likely dead anyway.

Replaced here generic model with a different generic model?
Traynor is worse. I've repeatedly mistaken her for other people around the ship.
 
I'd expect Miranda to have the good sense to go somewhere else.


Check Youtube. If there isn't a collection of those on there now there will be in the future for sure.


Man, that was rough. I only found out later that you could suggest an identity change to her.

But then again, everyone on the Citadel is likely dead anyway.

Likely? That shit exploded into Volus-sized nuggets. She's dead. The Elcor are dead. The Volus are dead.

Everybody died.
 
I can't even figure out what they were going for with the ending. Who thought it up? What were their ideals behind it? Did they think people would honestly like it?

It's like they tried to piss people off. But why?
 
I have to admit, I was disappointed that my FemShep was going to have to cheat on Liara, to get with Traynor. Being able to have Kelly on the side in ME2 was amusing. Thankfully I saved her!

Just so that she could get reaped when the Citidel was taken
 
I can't even figure out what they were going for with the ending. Who thought it up? What were their ideals behind it? Did they think people would honestly like it?

It's like they tried to piss people off. But why?

One possible train of thought, going by the "Speculation for everyone!" note: they may have interpreted the massive fandom around the series as evidence that a "conclusive" ending would be disliked due to leaving too little room for the characters to expand in people's minds, so they opted for "who the fuck knows?"

Stupid, yes, but entirely possible.
 
My friend proposed a drinking game. Start with the first Mass Effect game and every time you make a decision that doesn't matter in the end, take a shot. My response, "You'd be wasted by the character creation screen."
 
One possible train of thought, going by the "Speculation for everyone!" note: they may have interpreted the massive fandom around the series as evidence that a "conclusive" ending would be disliked due to leaving too little room for the characters to expand in people's minds, so they opted for "who the fuck knows?"

Stupid, yes, but entirely possible.

Yeah, fine, great. Except we do know. Everybody died, nothing mattered, the entirety of the second and third game amounted to jack crap, and you've wasted your time.

Buy our DLC!
 
I can't even figure out what they were going for with the ending. Who thought it up? What were their ideals behind it? Did they think people would honestly like it?

It's like they tried to piss people off. But why?

I'm trying to figure out how Mac Walters and other top development people can do all of these interviews, say how they're not going for this and that....and then make something that does exactly what they said they weren't going to do.

Like that one interview that was done I'm assuming before launch with Mac Walters that was posted today. He specifically says they didn't just want "space magic" to explain everything in the ending. How the fuck can you say that with a straight face, knowing the ending you guys created?
 
I'm trying to figure out how Mac Walters and other top development people can do all of these interviews, say how they're not going for this and that....and then make something that does exactly what they said they weren't going to do.

Like that one interview that was done I'm assuming before launch with Mac Walters that was posted today. He specifically says they didn't just want "space magic" to explain everything in the ending. How the fuck can you say that with a straight face, knowing the ending you guys created?

It's gotta be that the ending and beginning were done by somebody else. It's the only thing that makes any sense.
 
Yeah, fine, great. Except we do know. Everybody died, nothing mattered, the entirety of the second and third game amounted to jack crap, and you've wasted your time.

Buy our DLC!

Hey now, you can't say that for sure. After all, whoever was on the ground with you in London teleported to the Normandy just in time to crash land in Jurassic Park (and possibly came back from the dead in the process), how do you know everyone on the Citadel didn't do the same?
 
I can't even figure out what they were going for with the ending. Who thought it up? What were their ideals behind it? Did they think people would honestly like it?

It's like they tried to piss people off. But why?

Drew left so we'll probably never get an answer from him.
At this point, I don't think people would know HOW to finish a story like this. The Reapers are taken care of, so I guess that was enough for them.

What I really want to know is who the hell made the Reapers? That little guy? Is he an organic or a machine?
 
Drew left so we'll probably never get an answer from him.
At this point, I don't think people would know HOW to finish a story like this. The Reapers are taken care of, so I guess that was enough for them.

What I really want to know is who the hell made the Reapers? That little guy? Is he an organic or a machine?

I see you're speculatin'. Keep it up. Bioware wants lots of it.
 
Has there been discussion over whether the Illusive Man was really indoctrinated or not? I like to think he wasn't, but I didn't bother to find out before I shot him.
 
I'm trying to figure out how Mac Walters and other top development people can do all of these interviews, say how they're not going for this and that....and then make something that does exactly what they said they weren't going to do.

Like that one interview that was done I'm assuming before launch with Mac Walters that was posted today. He specifically says they didn't just want "space magic" to explain everything in the ending. How the fuck can you say that with a straight face, knowing the ending you guys created?

Link?

One possible train of thought, going by the "Speculation for everyone!" note: they may have interpreted the massive fandom around the series as evidence that a "conclusive" ending would be disliked due to leaving too little room for the characters to expand in people's minds, so they opted for "who the fuck knows?"

Stupid, yes, but entirely possible.

The ending was plenty conclusive. The conclusion just is that most of the galaxy is completely destroyed/fucked up beyond recognition, and Earth sure as shit is in some kind of trouble from the goddamn Citadel exploding right above it. Essentially the choice at the end is just what colour you want the mass relays to explode with when they destroy most of the habitable planets in the galaxy.
 
It's gotta be that the ending and beginning were done by somebody else. It's the only thing that makes any sense.

Well we know Mac came up with the ending at least. We saw his writing on the notebook paper and we got a quote from him saying how we didn't need to know about the ME universe at the end, when we're talking to starchild. I wouldn't be surprised if he was responsible for all of the child parts, which are the worst parts of the game, and everyone else came up with most of the character interaction and development.

Drew left so we'll probably never get an answer from him.
At this point, I don't think people would know HOW to finish a story like this. The Reapers are taken care of, so I guess that was enough for them.

What I really want to know is who the hell made the Reapers? That little guy? Is he an organic or a machine?

These were some of the questions I wanted answered at the end. Questions that I thought were going to be answered.

Damn you Bioware >.<
 
Drew left so we'll probably never get an answer from him.
At this point, I don't think people would know HOW to finish a story like this. The Reapers are taken care of, so I guess that was enough for them.

What I really want to know is who the hell made the Reapers? That little guy? Is he an organic or a machine?

Well, I think they could have either had the Reapers win or lose, without Starbaby being introduced 10 seconds from the end, had some resolution with the characters (some of which were developed for around 90 hours of gameplay!) and maybe had an ending that didn't tear away firmly established lore (Spoiler Alert: If all the relays blew up, pretty much every inhabited system is gone)

....and yeah, you know what? If you did all the stupid errands, made peace between all the warring races, saved the lives of billions ... why the fuck not a happy ending? The "everything has to be bittersweet, or the hero has to fail" schtick is getting old and especially sucks after spending so much time doing everything along the way.

We all might as well just set the game to action mode, for all the good anything else did. From the very beginning, not just this game.
 
Drew posted on twitter a bit about the ending. Said that originally the reason for the reapers was going to be the Dark energy that was foreshadowed in 2. Its prob been mentioned but this is a 300 page thread lol

edit stolen from an IGN post:

@DrewKarpyshyn
@danielhumgon @GambleMike From what I hear, the basic concept of the original ending is there, though some details may have been tweaked.

@DrewKarpyshyn
@LukGaming Dark Energy was on the table at one point, but the original idea for the ending was all about Reapers and Mass Relays.#ME3

@andb52
@DrewKarpyshyn Could you provide any more detail on what you mean when you say the ending "was all about Reapers and Mass Relays?" Thanks!

&#8207;@DrewKarpyshyn
@andb52 Nope. Already said more than I should. I don't like discussing things I wasn't involved with - too easy to say something stupid.
 
Here's the post from this thread from earlier in the morning.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=36170440&postcount=18461

Wow, did he turn in the wrong script, or is the man just completely insane?


Drew posted on twitter a bit about the ending. Said that originally the reason for the reapers was going to be the Dark energy that was foreshadowed in 2. Its prob been mentioned but this is a 300 page thread lol

I would have been perfectly fine with there never being an explicit reason for why the Reapers wanted to harvest the sapient species, other than to make new Reapers out of them. I liked the idea of our galaxy basically being a fruit tree for a group of highly sophisticated beings, and that they would harvest other galaxies when they were ripe for the picking. This would have kept it in line with the cosmic horror themes established in ME1 (which are also, I imagine, a big part of the reason that the Reapers look like Cthulhu-oid tentacle monsters).
 
These were some of the questions I wanted answered at the end. Questions that I thought were going to be answered.

Damn you Bioware >.<

Yeah, I mean this is by far the most important question after "How do you kill them?"

Also, (we're calling him vent god now? well ok) vent god says that he puts the previous species into a reaper so that they could "never die"----so what happened to the Prothean Reaper? It failed so they made the Collectors. He needs a new plan
 
What I still don't understand is why didn't they just keep it simple instead of introducing the god-child?

Just imagine after Hackett started saying that it wasn't working, Shepard stood up, played with the console some more, and then badabing, badaboom the crucible works, they fire on the reapers, Harbinger is destroyed and the other reapers begin to retreat. Scenes of forces on the ground celebrating, the various fleets onboard start going crazy, Hackett says some inspirational shit, orders the fleets to chase after the reaper retreats, thanks Shepard for his work, says they're gonna win this thing, the the Normandy picks up Shepard, the crew greets him, everyone is celebrating, Shepard gives a little speech, reminisces on all thats lost, but talks about the future they've gained, everyone is happy, emotional moments, maybe a little something something from the love interest, a couple last words from Shepard along the lines of "we did it", credits roll.

Who has a problem with that, honestly?
Sure, doesn't account for individual choices, maybe some want more closure, maybe more backstory of reapers, but still, that has to be better than mother fucking star child. Like why couldn't they have just done something like that? Anything besides introducing something completely unknown.
 
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