...and simultaneously ruin 3rd parties because it's not fair how good Nintendo is. ;_;
Wii U Speculation Thread The Third: Casting Dreams in The Castle of Miyamoto
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...and simultaneously ruin 3rd parties because it's not fair how good Nintendo is. ;_;
herzogzwei1989
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Yeah I think so, $40+$20
Well, I post about all sorts of Wii U related topics here, not just tech-specs
Hero of Legend
Member
Why thank you! *high fives*
I'd also love to see Virtua Fighter 5 Final Showdown on Wii U retail (are there any compromises in the XBLA/PSN versions?).
And get Arika on a Virtua Fighter 5 3D Edition on 3DS with the Tekken 3D engine. This better happen!
A perfect companion to SSFIV3D. 
When the time is right, I'll surely get Tekken. Super psyched for Tekken Wii U! And I love Arika. Endless Ocean 3 PLEASE.GameplayWhore
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Judging from a comparably sized resistive tablet (that has expensive crap not in the Wii U controller such as cpu, substantial memory and large storage), I would think that Nintendo's cost of manufacture would easily be under $50.
Well, I post about all sorts of Wii U related topics here, not just tech-specs
I know. It just feels like people get the most ragey when the POWAH discussion starts to take over, and that's what we've been seeing today.
TwilightPrincess
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So Ideaman tells us: WiiU looks visually 2x 360 while using the controller for 3D experiences (yeah subjective) and we shouldn´t believe the "its only a xbox". Arkam tells us WiiU is weaker than 360 in some aspects and gives Devs a hard way for porting even 360 games.
Arkam could you please tell us the version of the devkit you are talking about? Ideaman is talking about Devkit 4 (?). It contradicts, as much as i try to bring anything together. No offense to anyone, but it doesn´t meet. Hope it´s a devkit issue.
Arkam could you please tell us the version of the devkit you are talking about? Ideaman is talking about Devkit 4 (?). It contradicts, as much as i try to bring anything together. No offense to anyone, but it doesn´t meet. Hope it´s a devkit issue.
What if Nintendo was a third party? Can you guys imagine how much money Mario Kart would make if it was on Xbox, PS3, PC, iPad, iPhone, Android, etc.
Sometimes I wonder, would the money that Nintendo might make being third party be more than the money they currently make by creating hardware with exclusive software? This is all hypothetical of course; I love Nintendo consoles and handhelds.
BlackNMild2k1
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That's not a new rumor and it's on the (2011 & 2012) list under Nov 2011.
edit: and I just realized that i linked to the wrong 2011 list so I updated that post with a more current link
http://tinyurl.com/Rumor2012
http://tinyurl.com/RumorList2011
pieatorium
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Depends on what 2x or 5x etc means(basically it means nothing without any further extrapolation). We are fairly sure the WiiU will have much more ram aswell as some decent edram so it wouldn't be unthinkable from that to believe that WiiU versions could have more anti aliasing and/or better(larger?) textures without having better in game effects or higher resolution or whatever. Whether you would consider that a 2x improvement in visuals is up to personal subjective tastes i would say.
herzogzwei1989
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Is Nintendo going to have a Space World or SW-like convention after E3?
Or is it "wait til TGS"?
Or is it "wait til TGS"?
Ahhh.. cool. There was part of me wondering if I'd heard or seen something earlier, but seeing people engage in fresh enthusiasm over it fooled me. *shrug*
I like that site's rumor mill.. how have I not found it until today?
R
Rösti
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Well, they did have that Nintendo 3DS Conference on the 13th of September last year, so something for Wii U is probably not that farfetched. And Tokyo Game Show Nintendo rarely attends.
herzogzwei1989
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Rösti;36332386 said:
Alright, that's basically all I wanted to know, thanks.
ikr? Like someone said before... Nintendo is the Disney/Pixar of the videogames
In all fairness, it's not Nintendo's fault third parties are sitting next to incompetence, laziness, stupidity and lame excuses
I mean... "we can't compete against Nintendo software"
the fuck?
bgassassin
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Pokeymans don't have blood. They are filled with chicken broth.
I think so too. But it will only get costlier as we get closer to E3.
Has nothing to do with it at all.
pieatorium
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I think it does, I have seen quite a few people that have poped in here looking for whats new and voicing their dissapointment when ther thread has been kept on the front page without anything.
My point.
BlackNMild2k1
Member
Not sure. I've linked to it several times in several speculation/rumor threads, but it tends to get lost in the fast paced GAF thread.
If it comes out in November, they'll have a September conference to reveal the date/price.
Which would SUCK. Waiting til September to find out the date/price would be brutal.
Nope, nothing at all. Except for that other thread which has deceased into a cesspool of bemusement.
This thread should be moved to the community forum.
herzogzwei1989
Banned
Why thank you! *high fives*
I'd also love to see Virtua Fighter 5 Final Showdown on Wii U retail (are there any compromises in the XBLA/PSN versions?).
And get Arika on a Virtua Fighter 5 3D Edition on 3DS with the Tekken 3D engine. This better happen!
*high fives* , bro.
I'd kill for a Model 3 collection on Wii U's eShop, it's high time SEGA did this. Imagine being able to play Daytona USA 2 with all the HUD info on the small screen. That would be amazing.
bgassassin
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First that video brought no new info and second you're twisting that disappointment to justify your view. It had already been posted and discussed in this thread so people had plenty of opportunity to chime in here.
herzogzwei1989
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I so badly want this thread moving in a positive direction. I mean, I'm excited as HELL about Wii U.
It's going to be the most powerful console ever released, at least for this year, and will have tons of Nintendo (and SEGA, NAMCO, CAPCOM, etc) IPs on it. I cannot wait.
It's going to be the most powerful console ever released, at least for this year, and will have tons of Nintendo (and SEGA, NAMCO, CAPCOM, etc) IPs on it. I cannot wait.
pieatorium
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Most people ignore this thread because of the spam of nothing significant that keeps it on the front page which bury's things like that video. I don't even think of that video as anything more than the other off the cuff comments from developers we have already heard and if this thread was actually a good place to discuss these things I wouldn't consider it new thread worthy.
bgassassin
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That makes no sense. You say it wasn't new, but feel it needed a new thread. You are giving way too much weight to the "hype train" phase that made up a small portion of the posts of these threads. And there isn't that much ignoring.
Thunder Monkey
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Look at every single tech thread on GAF.
Not a damn one of them amounts to anything. Real tech talk happens among a few posters. The rest? "8 gigs of RAM my puter has 16! 10x constitutes a generational leap! Less than 4 gigs is disappointing!"
For being such a tech oriented industry, most gamers know nothing about this hardware they love to laud as the second coming or too weak to run games. This is every single tech thread continuously. At least the WiiSpec thread is fun.
pieatorium
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The hype train comment was just the most extreme example, there is plenty of other random things in these threads that have no bearing on anything
I would say that the size of that other thread compared to the page or so of discusion on that video in here by the same handful of people who are on every page of this thread would be an indicator of the extent of how much this thread is Ignored.
bgassassin
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^ XD
Yet people that apparently posted in the other thread had no problem migrating into this thread to comment on it. And even then that doesn't negate the fact that it wasn't new and in turn didn't really need a thread.
Yet people that apparently posted in the other thread had no problem migrating into this thread to comment on it. And even then that doesn't negate the fact that it wasn't new and in turn didn't really need a thread.
Thunder Monkey
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At this point I'm not even sure my lithe and nude frame would be enough.
herzogzwei1989
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I love talking specs, but specifics, and, in context. Way too many people here don't know what they're talking about (I don't claim I do really, either), with too many 5x, 10x XB360/PS3 nonsense floating around.
Agh, that's a badly written post it's after 12:30am Eastern and I'm getting tired.
Agh, that's a badly written post it's after 12:30am Eastern and I'm getting tired.
pieatorium
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Yes they migrated in after the new thread was created. In other words this thread was ignored previously to that thread.
It's irrelivent if it is new here or not since noone except the regulars have any reason to come here.
Thunder Monkey
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At least you aren't a big meany like the guys in the other threads.
I wasn't even saying anything particularly odd, and people were calling me crazy. I hope Shadow was kidding. I've always enjoyed his company.
bgassassin
Member
And brought nothing to the table when they came. If that's all they are bringing then it's better for them not to post or visit this thread in the first place.
It is very relevant because even new stuff hasn't had enough content worth getting a new thread. And those who really care about wanting a Wii U or just to see what's being discussed still visit.
You should know you're pretty enough that you don't need to go fishing for compliments.
Thunder Monkey
Banned
*blushes*
Arkam
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We were on Cat-Dev V4 last I was working with it . Not sure if the studio got newer ones since then. I am no longer working directly on a team doing WiiU development. Though nothing big could have changed or I would have heard about it.
Not sure what type of project Ideaman is working on. But for us it was no where near 2x in real world performance. His game may utilize the WiiU's strengths much better than our game. I hope that is the case and some studios are able to put out some impressive stuff. For us it wont matter as there is no way we will rebuild our game from the ground up for the WiiU (nor will most companies).
bgassassin
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Sounds like the last version to come out last year. Thanks for sharing as I wanted to ask, but wasn't sure if you were comfortable sharing that.
In a sense yes.
Did Arkam really say they were having difficulties porting to the Wii U?
Please watch this video and listen to what Colin Bonstead said in particular
herzogzwei1989
Banned
That's kind of disheartening :/ Yet I believe the final Wii U will offer graphics and features beyond the current HD consoles.
I didn't know Darksiders II, Batman: Arkham City, Assassin's Creed III and Aliens: Colonial Marines weren't 360 games.
And I guess Vigil is lying when they said it took them 5 weeks to get Darksiders II running on Wii U, looking at least as good as the 360 version.
IT REEKS OF BULLSHIT IN HERE!
ViewtifulJC
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So...Wii-U will be somewhere in the middle of PS3-PS4, hopefully will have godlike Nintendo games, and will be port city from HD twins with some half-assed touch screen stuff thrown in.
shocking
shocking
pieatorium
Member
That's an unfair generalization.
Doesn't seem that unfair right now.
Did you expect much more?
Those expectations are pretty reasonable. You won't be disappointed for sure.
bgassassin
Member
Since you spoke in general it encompasses everyone, which means me too. It's still unfair unless you change that aspect.
Thank you for the info.
Actually it proves my earlier points. Many of the launch/launch window multiplat games will look same on wii U and 360. I don't think many 3rd parties will bother optimizing wii U version and it is nothing wrong. Contrary to mature HD twins, wii U is new, unproven, 0 userbase and Nintendo asks some launch games and 3rd parties like "Sure, we port some for you." Why do you expect or ask them to put extra effort on it? I mean just to prove the new hardware capabilities? But what are the benefits? Hell many multiplat games the wii U version will sell definitely the least (because of the size of userbase) and you hope them put extra effort into a version and sells the least?
Just like Arkam said, there is no reason for them rebuilding everything from scratch to optimize wii U the best. Most companies will do it in the same way, port, think some ways to use controller, debug, done.
If we really want to see something to show the power of wii U, we need to wait 1st party/3rd party exclusive or some new projects which have not been developing for PS360 for years.
Thunder Monkey
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Again... this isn't an unusual thing for a speculation thread.
Agenda's pop out at every corner, personal biases. Fusion and PS4 threads are generally even more batshit. You get post after post ranting about 8 gigs being necessary, and 4 gigs being too little. Even if RAM density limits are still at play you get people ignoring those in the know to rant about what they want instead of what is likely.
This thread isn't special.
pieatorium
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If you are going to get semantic the fact you haven't done this excludes you from the group of people that changed their tune in regards to the recent comments.
Yes I know and agree but you shouldn't try to take the high ground as if this thread is immune just because a few posters don't go off the deepend. Those threads you mention also have some quality discusion by the few who do want to discuss the actual topic at hand
Thing is, we have no clue what the PS4 is packing. All we have to go by is the "probably not much better than PS3 graphics" statement from the Sony Europe VP, and a bunch of speculation about it rendering Avatar and finding the last digit of pi. Conclusions are being jumped to on all fronts.