Marvel's The Avengers |OT| (Dir. Joss Whedon) [Spoilers unmarked]
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Thunder Monkey
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That is fucking hilarious.
Hahaha.
Ummm, I liked the show but I think I let the RT score and GAF impressions get to my head. My expectations were sky-high so I left the theater feeling a little underwhelmed. Thor was particularly disappointing in the show. He came across as somewhat weak in the finale and never really did do much.
Get me access to that distribution-source. I'll even pay for it.
He fucking blew several small and large enemies out og the sky with one attack...
Yes. Some viewers might miss it though. It's explained in the dialogue between Thor and Loki early on. It probably won't be very important until Thor 2 anyway.
lazybones18
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Can you imagine the reactions during a midnight showing if the film was deleted?
Clayton Bigsby
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From what I have been told, yes. But it is a pretty throwaway line.
16:9. I think this has to do with Whedon being a TV director, and he might be more comfortable with a regular widescreen format instead of a more theatrical one.
Yeah, while watching it, I thought it felt more like 16:9 and was wondering whether the theater screwed up with the projection or something.
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1.85:1
seemed like 1.85:1 to me. Slightly disappointed when the movie started and the curtains didn't open up, but soon forgotten. Its quite a character piece at the beginning so I think it works well at that ratio
MonkeyKnuckle
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I thought the same when I watched it.
Banner can actually control the Hulk. This was demonstrated at the end of the Incredible Hulk movie. He's actually able to turn into the Hulk and retain a level of control as long as he stays focus. But he doesn't like that and he would rather not turn into the Hulk at all, so he is repressing it on purpose. Because of this, when he does turn into the Hulk involuntarily, it means he generally snaps and totally loses control. That's when he's no longer able to control it.
That's my understanding based on the films so far. Seems to make sense especially when you see that
he is able to retain control in the end because he changes into the Hulk by his own free will, and he tells them his secret is that he's "always angry" so he just holds in back on purpose.
Yeah, didn't make sense to me either. It was also disappointing not to see Jane Foster in the movie given how Thor ended.
I think it's because Whedon brought all the superheroes into a normal human state, which I really liked. You never got that sense of "Thor is a god who can kill everyone".
Like that scene where
Stark and Thor were fighting in the forest. Technology can stand up to a god
Really nice work by Whedon
It was pretty clear there that if the fight went on, Thor would have won though. But it doesn't matter because that scene was all about - WHEN CAPTAIN AMERICA TALKS, EVERYONE SHUTS UP. Fuck yeah! <3
Why waste time on it? I would think that trying to stop the end of the world would have more importance than explaining in detail.
The same goes to not having Jane Foster there. Why should she be? Bring her in a risky zone just to greet Thor. Time for that later ...
I don't think the Thor ending is really compromised here. It still prevents all of Asgard from descending onto Earth whenever they feel like this, and ultimately that directly results in Thor being a lonelier and more isolated character in the Avengers movie. You can definitely feel that he has lost a lot of his witty and charming side here, because he is surrounded by strangers and is unable to spend any time with his friends or loved ones. I thought it was a nice touch, and it simply makes the audience more excited to see that side of Thor again when the sequel to Thor comes out next year.
That was only his lightning attacks. Did you not notice that as the battle went on, Thor was showing that his physical strength was just going to be too much for the Iron Man armor? He was pretty much crushing the arms with his hands alone. It was pretty cool.
Its a SHIELD origin story. What do you expect? We could have had a simple montage where they get the guys together, but the central role of the story IMO is getting the different heroes into one place, the sparks that inevitably creates and the fallout of that.
The enemy in the third act are just dressing.
for the amount of effort you've put in, you could have popped down to blockbusters and got them on bluray/dvd by now.
Discotheque
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It's happened twice and it's pretty damn funny.
future_pinoy
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wanna bet ?
Gotta be honest, that's pretty much how I felt. Don't agree about the whole Nick Fury dragging thing, because I'm a DC Universe reader and don't know any Marvel backstory besides the movies they released so far.. which also caused my frustration of not knowing anything about Black Widow and Hawkeye.
I guess the biggest problem I had with the movie was the faceless army of aliens and the way they didn't have any realistic weight to them because of the cartoony CGI. They had shitloads of armour on their bodies and yet they still bounced off buildings and jumped around like feathers.
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The good news is that when Avengers is out on blu-ray, it'll be a real fullscreen presentation for all modern TVs.
Yes!
Big Baybee
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Yea, I think Avengers is going to be huge and have long legs. I love the Batman movies, but there isn't the same hype this time around.
TDKR will show us whether the huge boxoffice for TDK was due to Ledger's hype or Nolan's brand name!
I took Banner's line "That's my secret, I'm always angry" to mean that he actually wanted to mess them all up in the Hellicarrier, he just got that mad. Hence the scene before the transformation. That's why he's dangerous, he can get incredibly pissed off at anyone. Later he can just vent his anger at the bad guys.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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No Blockbuster near by. Keep in mind the effort expended was really just checking a few websites.
I think in terms of digital distribution, big studios are still very much behind on the curve. If they really wanted to cash in on this big time, they would have prepared digital packages of all the 5 previous movies a month before Avengers opens, so fans who don't own the discs can either recap, or new fans can catch up. Market it as some sort of "Avengers Declassified" thing, and throw in a special Avengers making of preview in the package too, and it'll be a huge hit.
Not really,
him saying "i'm always angry" is just a reference to the fact that the Hulk ALWAYS exists within him, and it WILL NOT let him die. That's why he transformed so easily, I think. Because Hulk woudn't let him get hit by that thing, so it appeared and stopped it. That's how I understood it, given the story of how he shot himself in the mouth, and the Hulk spit it out.
But can he really transform voluntarily without a threat? Perhaps, but I thought his second transformation was simply due to the Hulk not letting Banner die from that incoming thing. But yeah, your description of his involuntary transformation is accurate and basically how I understood it as well.
Pull up your slacks, son, because I'm about to rock your world.
The Avengers (A)
Iron Man (B)
Captain America (B)
Thor (B)
Iron Man 2 (B-)
The Incredible Hulk (C)
I actually don't think the second Iron Man is that bad, and it startles me that people who liked the first one don't like the second. It's inferior, but not by much. Both films run on RDJ's charisma, yet don't have the good sense to not lock him in a big metal suit for most of the third act.
Captain America seems like a real Marmite film. Me, I love it. It's incredibly kitschy - montages, random explosions, slow motion, identikit lackeys - and I think really accomplishes the whole World War 2 propaganda feel it's going for. It's completely unashamed of what it is. It may be that I'm a sucker for period superhero films, and I dug X-Men First Class for many of the same reasons (and I long for a Fantastic Four film set in the 60s). I thought Evans was really endearing. There are some weak points - mostly side characters that fail to have any impact and a little bit of a flat conclusion - but I find that the end result is strong.
People say that they wanted more Asgard stuff on Thor, but I completely disagree. I felt Thor as a character was at his most interesting when he was having misadventures on Earth ("This is delicious! ANOTHER!") than when he was in a giant magical rainbow world, hitting things. People say that the romance isn't the strongest and, while it's not, I don't feel it's that far-fetched. Hemsworth definitely exceeded my expectations.
The Incredible Hulk didn't leave much of an impression on me, but I wouldn't say it's head-holdingly bad. I just found it unremarkable. Liv Tyler whispering everything got on my nerves a bit, mind you. Bruce?
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