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That isn't what I said. It CAN be that, and is at times, but that wasn't my main point.

My main point is that it's very often a sexual experience, one where the guy will readily admit it as such, whereas a girl isn't likely to admit it. One of the differences being most guys will want a sexual experience to end in sex, whereas a lot of girls aren't looking for that.. but it's still a fun sexual experience for them. Beyond that, I've straight up witnessed girls claim grinding wasn't a sexual experience, and then that grinding clearly did lead to a sexual experience.

But everyone is different, and it's also certainly possible it wasn't sexual for her whatsoever.

Oh sorry, I wasn't putting you on the spot. I'm trying to understand this as well. Because grinding implies my body touching hers and hell, I grabbed certain areas of her body which I would think only her bf has the right to. You know what I mean? That's why I said, girls will not admit it but guys like me think otherwise (like she likes me etc...).

Grinding can be simple or be very sexually intimate. I don't know what I would categorize our grinding to be.

What happened to all those posts about how you're totally over here and not hung up on her at all?

I guess people are not understanding me. It's not like she's the only girl I have, she's the only one that I like a lot. Yes. But I have other friends that are females that I hang with regularly, chill with etc...

I'm not just occupied with her.

And I really do have another update that would really fuck this thread over.... But it will just make this situation just a fucking hell.

Honestly gaf, I think I should eat everyone's advice and just get the fuck over her and move on and see her as a friend strictly.
 
Well. I guess I'm with nvidiot on this one. I have always known grinding to be intimate but not on the levels of sexually acting on it. Usually when girls grind on guys, doesn't mean that they want more without admitting to that fact?

No. If a girl wants something more beyond grinding she'll make sure you get it and not completely forget about it the moment the song changes.

"Usually" is not always and it's definitely not what happened in your story.
 
What was the point of explaining this? I got a kick out of the "she was really happy to see me / us" as I am not sure why you differentiated yourself from your group of friends who are also regulars.

Well, because primarily talks to me the most and even at times, exclusively. That's why I differentiated.

What did your ex have to do with the rest of the story? Seems like useless filler or some sad attempt to present her as some type of cockblock

Yikes. She's just a fun girl to hang and be with. Some my friends enjoy her company and same goes to her. She usually comes out to events like clubbing and so forth with us. And I would be lying if I didn't say the following; that I was basically trying to tell the waitress, "shit, I'm not desperate so please..."

That's why that was in there. But what really knocked me out out or over the fucking hill was she was wearing the ring I bought her on the finger that implies she's engaged / married / taken. Completely threw me off and I didn't notice, the waitress did.


Oh man, you even grabbed her ass! Dude, I am surprised she didn't bang you right then and there. And grinding? Oh man, I hope you were carrying condoms on you.

It might seem like nothing to you but grabbing her ass when she has a bf....At that point I didn't know better but now I do. But at that time when I did and she let it happen, I'm pretty sure everyone else here would have taken that as a good sign?

Haha, seriously though...you guys were at a party and you were dancing. That is known to happen and doesn't mean anything.

Guess I'll be looking at it this way.


I bet that made the waitress friend soooooo jealous. You sure showed her. The fact that you consciously and intentionally ignored her is hilarious. Never mind the fact that you naturally could have had other stuff to pay attention to since you were there with friends, which would be I don't know.... normal.

Well, at the very least it showed her I could do without her. I didn't purposely ignore her, my ex asked for a dance and like I said, I enjoy dancing. I wasn't going to turn down the chance. So I did it, it just fell within gaf advice, lol. I did pay attention to other things like taking shots with my friends, drinking with them, dancing with them.... Etc... As she wasn't with us most of the night.

She was dancing with a guy she knew for a long time and you equated this to her not being interested?Or how that was going to end up with them dating? In this case it was true, but how was it different than you dancing with other people like your ex? What made you think the bf thing was a lie?

Well, as soon as she saw him, she went straight to him. And she was with him ever since. So I just assumed, it was done. Not to mention, she was really all over him. So I just went with she's going to date this guy because she really likes him and she's not interested in me. In my situation, she know the girl I was dancing with was my ex.

Well, I said she lied about the bf thing because she never talks about him, she always seem to be with her girlfriends all the time. Some guy at the bar that we know tipped us with the fact that she's single and doesn't have a bf.

[quoteIt sounds like you watched them the entire time. Did you give him the stink eye all night too? I bet you did.[/quote]

Nope and nope.

Which is normal if you're in a relationship. At the same time, why does this mean she just wanted a ride? Why would she have to tell anyone if he would be there or not? Sounds like she considers you people friends and wanted to hang out and have a good time. Which is what happened from what it sounds like.

Because she didn't want anyone to think she's only coming with us to actually see her bf there and needed the ride to get there? That's why she didn't mention him.

So how did this 1x1 chat start? What was it even about? I can't imagine anything heading towards a discussion on whether she would have dated you or not had you not instigated it during the conversation. It just seems creepy and uncomfortable.

It basically about the dance, the night in general. Her bf, the whole situation with her bf (yes, I asked her first) and some other chatter. Like I said, she dropped some bombs / hints about us working out. Maybe to me it was, not to anyone else.
 

Mr. Fix

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Update!!!

4) So she was as usual being flirty and my ex had put the ring that I bought her a longtime ago. I didn't notice, the waitress girl did and asked me if she was my girlfriend...... I'm like "what the fuck" (back at the bar, my ex and me were talking a lot, and she was very close to me) and that's how she knows. I said "no, we're just friends"

But what if she (your friend) thinks you really like her?!
 

undrtakr900

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But what if she (your friend) thinks you really like her?!
FortunateSon is to the waitress as the Ex-girlfriend is to FortunateSon :0
6) We then jet off to the club. Then my ex decided to ask me to dance with her and I did (I took gaf advice and didn't give her [the waitress]my attention) so I did things with other girls... And then....
What if your ex-girlfriend still has feelings for you(ie. wearing the ring you gave her and asking you to dance). While you guys were grinding on the dance floor suppose she thought of it as an intimate/sexual experience but in your head you just thought of it as dancing with a friend while keeping tabs on the waitress lady.

Or maybe she felt a bit jealous seeing you dancing with the waitress at her house...
 
So in the end she was doing it all for the tips.
And maybe enjoys the attention too.

12) But I guess we will remain friends and if she were to shit the bed with her bf in the future, I'm in......... So in.
No, if you have any respect for yourself, don't do it.

Because she didn't want anyone to think she's only coming with us to actually see her bf there and needed the ride to get there? That's why she didn't mention him.
She's not obligated to tell you who she meets with. I mean, you're not her keeper. It happens a lot going in groups.
 
Why the fuck would take your ex out with you when you're trying to mack on some other chick in the first place? You were trying to prove to the object of your desire that you don't have a need for her at all? The logic here is blowing my mind.
 

bjb

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Why the fuck would take your ex out with you when you're trying to mack on some other chick in the first place? You were trying to prove to the object of your desire that you don't have a need for her at all? The logic here is blowing my mind.

This man simply does not use logic.
 
I think some of you are a little bit cynical.

Part of the "art" is likely the idea that it's from someone so young.

I'm not interested, but I'm also over it. To me, she has some talent... I like art like that, and knowing it's from a 5 year old gives it an interesting spin. But I take issue with the color choices, lol.
 

Yasae

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I think some of you are a little bit cynical.

Part of the "art" is likely the idea that it's from someone so young.

I'm not interested, but I'm also over it. To me, she has some talent... I like art like that, and knowing it's from a 5 year old gives it an interesting spin. But I take issue with the color choices, lol.
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.......Oddly fitting.
 
Hey guys, it's 5 a.m. here and I just got back from a friends birthday paryy.... I'd jus like to say that I got 2 numbers. Both of them girls. Now, mind you.. Iyt wwas a soca party. So the 1st girl was some fatass.... The 2nd girl was really amazing. I made out wiht her.... Hell. She had no panties on. That was like a red flag in my world. No fucking bra either. So I decided to get her number... Shall I call her?

Fuck me man. I don't want either of these chicks. All I want is that one chick that I really like.

Anyways.... That girl texted me asking what am I doing tommoirwow. She has a fucking bf. She's fucked up.
 
Hey guys, it's 5 a.m. here and I just got back from a friends birthday paryy.... I'd jus like to say that I got 2 numbers. Both of them girls. Now, mind you.. Iyt wwas a soca party. So the 1st girl was some fatass.... The 2nd girl was really amazing. I made out wiht her.... Hell. She had no panties on. That was like a red flag in my world. No fucking bra either. What a fucking slut. So I decided to get her number... Shall I call her?

Fuck me man. I don't want either of these chicks. All I want is that one chick that I really like.

Anyways.... That girl texted me asking what am I doing tommoirwow. She has a fucking bf. She's fucked up.

Careful, people on this forum get overly offended by these terms.
 

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Hey guys, it's 5 a.m. here and I just got back from a friends birthday paryy.... I'd jus like to say that I got 2 numbers. Both of them girls. Now, mind you.. Iyt wwas a soca party. So the 1st girl was some fatass.... The 2nd girl was really amazing. I made out wiht her.... Hell. She had no panties on. That was like a red flag in my world. No fucking bra either. So I decided to get her number... Shall I call her?

Fuck me man. I don't want either of these chicks. All I want is that one chick that I really like.

Anyways.... That girl texted me asking what am I doing tommoirwow. She has a fucking bf. She's fucked up.

So this is where he starts lying.
 

shuri

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LOL, after 6 pages of being a total pussy and visibly unable to deal with females, OP is suddenly getting digits thrown at him.
 
Flirty but doesnt want you? Shes diggin' the attention and validation from an attractive dude, pretty much.

Its a lost cause buddy. Not even a chance at a physical friendship at that...

The Anti-Monitor said:
"What a fucking slut".

Mmmh. Why isn't the OP successful with girls again?

Word.

Is it wrong to be an open sexual being OP?

I think Im gonna go out wearing no briefs/underwear and see whether I'll be called a hero or manwhore. I wouldnt care anyway.
 

Az

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FortunateSon. It's all okay, once you turn 18 you will start understanding a few things about women. Calling women sluts and the way you are obsessing about that girl will not get you anywhere.
 
Hey guys, it's 5 a.m. here and I just got back from a friends birthday paryy.... I'd jus like to say that I got 2 numbers. Both of them girls. Now, mind you.. Iyt wwas a soca party. So the 1st girl was some fatass.... The 2nd girl was really amazing. I made out wiht her.... Hell. She had no panties on. That was like a red flag in my world. No fucking bra either. So I decided to get her number... Shall I call her?

Fuck me man. I don't want either of these chicks. All I want is that one chick that I really like.

Anyways.... That girl texted me asking what am I doing tommoirwow. She has a fucking bf. She's fucked up.

Tell us you goddamn secret update. You're not getting any advice until you do.
 
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