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Yeah i cant wait to see cleverley and wilshere running that midfield in a few years (if they stay fit)
Football Thread 2011/2012 | OT12 | All the clowns were offside...
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Tim the Wiz
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He's honestly been a revelation. I keep forgetting that he's 33.
he did a miracle job bringing this lot of useless fucks out of the group stage
antifootball is your only hope of achieving anything.
Phantast2k
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Heh.
Individuals that probably shouldn't have started though. Young/Milner really should have been replaced. Starting with both was a mistake I feel. Welbeck shouldn't have been subbed either
Gareth Bale
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Individual play got us goals though. Not a single one came from good team play. Hodgson has no idea how to put together a decent attacking side.
He should definitely call you up then.
Hodgson did well in the group stages and as much as the football is boring it does seem to fit the current england players better than trying to force good football on them, but tonight he got several things wrong.
Young, Milner and Rooney should not have started tonight, that much was clear even without the benefit of hindsight. Gerrard should have been rested against Ukraine, he looked wasted tonight and it was strange that Parker was taken off and not Gerrard. No-one was picking up Pirlo, even if you want to play with 2 banks of 4 you can still get a striker to follow him, but of course Hodge left Rooney on to do nothing rather than keeping Welbeck to try and track him.
Thanks, my drink is on the floor now!
You mean like Rooney?
Was a fun match, a pity it had to go to penalties to resolve itself.
In the end, i think both teams can only blame themselves, England for a clear lack of ambition during most of the match, they were almost innocuous going forward, Italy on the other hand, should have killed the game sooner, i think it was a mistake leaving Di Natale on the bench and he could have been the finishing touch the team needed in front of goal.
I confess i think the forum meltdown of having Germany - England and Portugal - Spain semi´s would have been much more entertaining *shrug*
In the end, i think both teams can only blame themselves, England for a clear lack of ambition during most of the match, they were almost innocuous going forward, Italy on the other hand, should have killed the game sooner, i think it was a mistake leaving Di Natale on the bench and he could have been the finishing touch the team needed in front of goal.
I confess i think the forum meltdown of having Germany - England and Portugal - Spain semi´s would have been much more entertaining *shrug*
can't believe AC Milan gave him away. Great pick-up from Juve.
Would've loved if scholes was in this team, or even Carrick. The passing would've improved massively. Germany vs Italy will be fun to watch.
Still think Spain will win this. There style of play is above everyone else's.
Feel bad for him and the few world class players England have.
I tip my top hat to Pirlo. He ran the game.
near
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Because we have a fantastic squad like we always do? Shit management and tactical approach is what fails us, the lack of attack football is annoying. It's easy to get lost in the hype and over anticipate with our players. And no 'many' did not expect us to fail our group stage. :s
He was only 23. He only made a couple appearances for the first team, but remember seeing a lot of him in the youth set up.Deserved loss, no complaints, simply not good enough.
Pirlo is a class act, really a master of his trade and if anyone's going to take a cheeky chip penalty I'll allow him to rub our noses in it.
I've not been sure about the tactical decision to absorb pressure and be happy off the ball all tournament and perhaps you could point the finger to this to a certain extent for tiring the players and making things more difficult than they perhaps could have been.
That said the technicality of the players available perhaps limits the options in this regard and it would have been difficult to set out the tactics to flood the midfield and dictate the pace of the game against anyone other than the mediocre teams. There will be young players to rejuvenate the squad in time and shape a hopefully brighter future for international matches, but I think all England fans will know from experience that this hope is to be approached with extremely cautious optimism at best.
Bottom line - I can go back to enjoying the tournament without being forced to sit through 2 hours of torture by the hands of my own inept nation. So pumped for the semis!
Pirlo is a class act, really a master of his trade and if anyone's going to take a cheeky chip penalty I'll allow him to rub our noses in it.
I've not been sure about the tactical decision to absorb pressure and be happy off the ball all tournament and perhaps you could point the finger to this to a certain extent for tiring the players and making things more difficult than they perhaps could have been.
That said the technicality of the players available perhaps limits the options in this regard and it would have been difficult to set out the tactics to flood the midfield and dictate the pace of the game against anyone other than the mediocre teams. There will be young players to rejuvenate the squad in time and shape a hopefully brighter future for international matches, but I think all England fans will know from experience that this hope is to be approached with extremely cautious optimism at best.
Bottom line - I can go back to enjoying the tournament without being forced to sit through 2 hours of torture by the hands of my own inept nation. So pumped for the semis!
Baconsaurus Rex
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uhhh... when?
What am I reading here?
Well, de Rossi hauled Terry down in the box. That's one at least.
Disgraceful shirt pulling in general from Italy, congratulations aside.
Terry got his shirt pulled twice. Do people not pay attention to what goes on on the pitch?
no one outside of england thinks you have a "fantastic squad." not a single midfielder in that england team would start for the current German or spanish side.
as italy has shown today, a 33 year old can run rings around your ponies. be thankful you went out on penalties because germany would've put on double digits against you
Yep. I'm no particular fan of Gerrard but he stepped up in this tournament and largely delivered.
He get's a pass from this tournament, but there are other senior players in this squad I hope aren't a feature in Brazil.
Not even Downing?
I only counted 1 world class player on that England team. Who else besides Hart?
edit: Oh, Cole and Terry? But they're cunts!
he got called up for brazil i heard, honorary citizen
near
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Well I think England suck. But that midfield is still very good. Despite injuries, individually I love the players we have at our disposal. But yeah, if we reached the final everyone would suddenly suck the bum off Roy and the squad. Guess its never going to happen.
I tip my hat to Italy though, I'm not taking nothing from there side, they deserved to go through.
Hope a lot of the midfield is changed in time for Brazil. They need to find a new winger.
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