Wkd BO 07•6-8•12 - Piderman a firework, Tity Perry pop rocks, Taylor Kitsch am bomba

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Had no idea what I was in to when I saw Ted this week but it was a great surprise. Can't say anything bad about the movie really. Marky Mark and the bear make a good team. (:
 
TED delivered what is was supposed to which is laughs. It's not mind blowing but I doubt anyone was expecting that.

Also TED > Bridesmaids as far as surprise R rated comedies are concerned.
 
Did anyone see Savages? I was thinking about catching it after Spiderman yesterday, but I changed my mind at the last minute.

It's solid, if a little slow.

Stone is firmly in his B-movie mode. Think along the lines of U-Turn. There's a few film stock changes and nifty narrative tricks. Nowhere near as showy and aggressive as Natural Born Killers, though. It's just enough to add some flavor to the proceedings.

The characters aren't as colorful as I'd hoped. The dialogue can be a bit stilted and on the nose. But it's a Shane Salerno script, so that's not too surprising. Winslow and Stone are both credited, so I'm sure they did a ton of work.

The leads are all fine. Taylor Kitsch is pretty one note, but he does a good job playing angry. Still not sure how anyone ever thought he could carry a huge budget tentpole, though. DelToro (with a magnificent mullet) delivers the best acting job. He made a great slimy villain. Travolta does a good job as well.

If you're a fan of crime films, or of Stone in general, you should check it out.
 
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Beasts of the Southern Wild doing good! Too bad gotta wait til October to see it in UK.

What's the highest per theatre average for an indie movie?
 
For reference, Spider-man 3 made over $380M in its first weekend worldwide. ASM was a staggered release (with China and some smaller countries still waiting for the film), and Spider-man 3 was Day and date though. Subtracting holdover business from markets that opened last weekend, it is more like $290M + whatever China opens to for ASM vs Spider-man 3's $380M.

A bit of a disappointment actually. European grosses must be way down.

EDIT: And the $290M includes 6-day openings in a bunch of countries this week.

No one's expecting this to do Spiderman 3 numbers though.

SM3 was following up on the best reviewed entry in the franchise, with recognizable star power. The hype level for it was much higher.

This one is following up on a movie no one was thrilled with, with no-name actors and the public exit of the director that made the series. It's got a much higher hill to climb to put butts in seats.

I can't see how not hitting SM3's grosses is disappointing- it had too much going against it from the get go.
 
Obviously. but (ignoring marketing and distribution, and the bonus from product placement for a second) at $700 million worldwide, Sony would need to be taking less than 35% of the total gross to "break even" on that budget, which is ludicrous.

movies don't stop making money once they're out of the cinema.
 
No one's expecting this to do Spiderman 3 numbers though.

SM3 was following up on the best reviewed entry in the franchise, with recognizable star power. The hype level for it was much higher.

This one is following up on a movie no one was thrilled with, with no-name actors and the public exit of the director that made the series. It's got a much higher hill to climb to put butts in seats.

I can't see how not hitting SM3's grosses is disappointing- it had too much going against it from the get go.

They are disappointing overseas where a lot of people were expecting Amazing Spider-man to match to surpass Spider-man 3's earnings. Even Box office Mojo was expecting $570M overseas in their summer forecast. A lot will depend on China, but the market has expanded a ton since 2007. Even sequels to sub par series entries are breaking or matching franchise highs overseas.
 
It's on the shoulders of Amazing Spider-Man 2. In terms of reboots, this is a huge success. Word of mouth has been amazing so that will help it, going forward and as a franchise. Spider-Man 3 was so bad, where it caused a ripple effect on the previous Raimi films and ASM. lol
 
$700M for a movie to make its money back seems insane to me.

Also, I thought Columbia wanted the reboot to cost around $120M after Spider-Man 3's budget exploded. No real stars in the cast, relatively unproven director and general lack of ambition in the CGI make me question why this movie was so expensive to make.

It really is. The rule of thumb is if BO is 2.5 times the budget, they typically turn a profit. If they need 700 mil, then their marketing budget must enormous.
 
It really is. The rule of thumb is if BO is 2.5 times the budget, they typically turn a profit. If they need 700 mil, then their marketing budget must enormous.

Marketing budgets for summer tentpoles are usually over 100M. Hell, some videogames spend that much on marketing these days.
 
Magic mikes budget is 7million? Somebody is making a shitload of money on that one.
 
Tobor is crying right now at the thought of Marvel never getting Spiderman back. Which is a good thing because ASM is better than Marvels recent output.
 
Rumors are around $200M production budget on Amazing, which would be around the same or a little less than the last two films. Marketing campaign would have been pricey, but the film also had a lot of product placement. Sony said they were hoping for $700M worldwide to break even on just theatre returns.

Yea, I doubt that 700m number. They're floating some other bs into that.
 
going by Spiderman's weekend day-to-day drop WoM has been incredibly strong/positive, and The Amazing Spider-Man should have descent legs. IMO, the movie did what it was meant to do, which is reintroduce Spidey and pave the way for the sequels.


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Nicley done, Webb. Not Lord Whedon good, but still good.

ASM2 just needs to dethrone SM2 then all will be good in the world. Though I hear he's not coming back for the sequel, so yeahhhhhh
 
To all those who talk about Sony's excessive product placement..., where have you been for the last twenty years? Sony Pictures are shameless in the way they crowbar their products into every scene, even films like The Other Guys had the characters using Vaio desktops etc.

Seriously I think in the last twenty odd years Sony have made less than a 10 films that were set either in the past or the future and I'm willing to bet that Total Recall remake will be filled with Sony branding and Sony products on Blade Runner esque futuristic billboards.

Sony had a long policy of making films that were set in contemporary times. One of the many reason they like being in business with Adam Sandler. They stay well away from the far future and the past. And DEFINITELY stay away from anything to do with WW2. For obvious reasons.

Who is this Piderman

The name of prominent Jewish lawyer. He is a pillar of his community and yes..., he does whatever a Piderman can..., to help those in need.

I feel like Snow White is a bit of a disappointment. I'm not talking about losing money or anything, but I just mean I feel like it was going for the same audience as Alice in Wonderland. I feel like it was greenlit with the hope of being a 600mln+ breakout.

Yup. There is no way that Universal can be happy with only $350m at the global box office t date when their total investment in the project (including production and P&A costs) is easily $300m or so.

This is also reflected in the fact Snow White/Huntsman was produced by the same guy who produced Alice In Wonderland, Joe Roth. Clearly the studio had big ambitions for this project but it just hasn't taken off at the International box office at all. Though the US numbers are better than I thought they would be.

Savages didn't bomb. It's an R-rated crime film in July. It won't do Road To Perdition type business though due to mixed word of mouth.

I agree with this, just how much did people expect this to make? Even in the fall I wouldn't expect this to do any more than $20m ala The Town. And frankly I'm surprised it made as much as it did.

In saying that Universal's effort to release Savages as 'counter programming' at this point in the summer doesn't feel like it's worked at all.

Agreed. Wiki pegs the budget at $220 million (which seems about right to me) and $700 million WW to "break even" even by Hollywood Accounting measures just doesn't sound right.

Worldwide advertising mang. It's very expensive.

Magic mikes budget is 7million? Somebody is making a shitload of money on that one.

IIRC Magic Mike cost $5m to actually produce and WB paid $7m for the North American distribution rights.
 
Nicley done, Webb. Not Lord Whedon good, but still good.

ASM2 just needs to dethrone SM2 then all will be good in the world. Though I hear he's not coming back for the sequel, so yeahhhhhh

There's no fucking way that happens. Orshit and Worstman will make sure of that.
 
Ted seems to be the next Hangover. Seth McFarlane is going to have so much clout in Hollywood now.

Yeah, I saw that many folks expected $200m+ based on the opening weekend returns. Pretty amazing.

I think Ted has a great shot at making more than Spidey in all honesty.
 
Tobor is crying right now at the thought of Marvel never getting Spiderman back. Which is a good thing because ASM is better than Marvels recent output.
I'm Marvel Studios biggest detractor on GAF and I disagree, if ASM was a Marvel Studios flick it'd be the worst one.
 
I hope so. Part of Me's Tomatometer is still better than Piderman.

Documentaries tend to have higher aggregated scores on average than regular movies. I think it is easier to make a good documentary. We like looking into other (real) people's lives. Even if you don't like Katy Perry music, I am sure there are some interesting stories amd behind the scenes in the film.
 
Not bad for Spidey, but not great by any means either. Didn't it have a 6 day OW?

Prome.will be lucky to hit 125m. Really thought it hit 130m domestic.
 
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