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[NullPointer]

Bingo.

Truly.

The problem is that the candidate running that campaign needs to have a real answer for the workers who are hurt by that dynamism.

 

[TacticalFox88]

George Will said if she was the nominee, she'd be challenged on the convention floor, delegates would walk out, etc; I think he's right. She's a single black woman who's pro choice - is there anything worse than that to a conservative?

A single black lesbian woman who's pro coice.

 

[gcubed]

I can kinda see Ridge, in part to try and deliver PA.

we don't like him

 

[PhoenixDark]

President Barack Obama holds a slim 2-point lead over Mitt Romney in a composite poll of 12 states, including narrow leads in Ohio, Colorado and Virginia.

The latest Purple Strategies poll released Monday shows Obama leading Romney, 48 percent to 46 percent, among a combined sample of likely voters in Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Minnesota, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia and Wisconsin. The cumulative results show Obama’s lead unchanged from the previous Purple Strategies poll in June, in which Obama also led Romney 48 percent to 46 percent.

Among the state-specific samples, Obama leads by 3 points in Ohio, 2 points in Virginia and 1 point in Colorado. Romney leads in Florida, 48 percent to 45 percent. The poll confirms two of the 2012 campaign prevailing truisms: The presidential race will be extremely close, and the outcome may be contingent on voters’ impression of the national economy.

From Purple Strategies:

Voters’ concerns about the economy continue to loom large, and their outlook is becoming gloomier. Just 28% of voters believe that the economy is getting better, a decline of 8 points from April. Forty-two percent (42%) believe that the economy is getting worse, up 7 points from April.

The impact of voters’ perception of the economy on their presidential choice is dramatic. Among those who believe the economy is getting better, 93% support
Obama, 4% favor Romney. And among those who say it is getting worse, Romney leads Obama 84% to 7%. Indeed, this question is now more predictive of vote choice than any other question we ask — including partisanship.

http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/07/swing-state-poll-obama-romney.php?ref=fpnewsfeed

Number of voters who feel the economy is getting worse is increasing - and Romney is leading with them by a huge number. That's not good for Obama

 

[PantherLotus]

Yep, well articulated points.

I don't however agree that these ads won't have an effect on the electorate. It's some of the most piercing political character-assassination I've seen. Sure it's full of half-truths, but it's rocked the narrative.

Agreed. I'd like to point out that it's not just "narrative" we're talking about, as Josh Marshall pointed out yesterday, I think.

The idea is that while yes, these affect our idea of Romney's character and cut the legs out from the single thing he's willing to half-stand on, these have very real policy implications as well.

You think Romney can nominate Paul Ryan after revealing Romney for the Swiss-Bank-Account-Havin' rich guy that he is? You think Romney can propose further tax cuts for the wealthy with a straight face? Won't every proposal to cut spending be met with a "not my benefits you job-cutter!" response from the crowd?

Pinning Romney on job-cutting, outsourcing, and looking out only for himself and other super rich people will undercut not only his own proposals, but will hammer home the destruction that the House GOP wants to cause if not stopped.

 

[Hop]

we don't like him

This is the Romney campaign, man, of course it wouldn't work.

 

[PantherLotus]

A single black lesbian woman who's pro coice.

umm...

 

[gcubed]

http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/07/swing-state-poll-obama-romney.php?ref=fpnewsfeed

Number of voters who feel the economy is getting worse is increasing - and Romney is leading with them by a huge number. That's not good for Obama

wtf is that poll? Which company or animal is the candidate like? Yeah... no thanks

and a +/- 4 for margin or error on states results? 4?! why even bother?

 

[Hitokage]

wtf is that poll? Which company or animal is the candidate like? Yeah... no thanks

Obama is totally a mongoose, man.

 

[Diablos]

Looks like it's Pawlenty. A safe pick.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/16/us/politics/pawlenty-looked-at-as-romney-running-mate.html?_r=2

Pawlenty might actually prove to be a good idea. He could attract a lot of the bible belt voters who are turned off by Romney.

Well Mitt Romney just copy Obama's ad lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIajeW6xPnI&feature=player_embedded#!

WTF, this is AWFUL. It's so poorly made. And how can Mitt's people talk about Obama getting help from the "donor class" when they have PAC money coming out the ass? What a bunch of idiots. Seriously, just an awful ad. Crap editing too. Message isn't all that compelling. Really, really, reallllllllly bad.

Also, wtf is this poll PD posted? We Luv Purple polling or some crap, wtf. Every week I see some new bullshit pollster.

 

[AlteredBeast]

Pawlenty might actually prove to be a good idea. He could attract a lot of the bible belt voters who are turned off by Romney.


WTF, this is AWFUL. It's so poorly made. And how can Mitt's people talk about Obama getting help from the "donor class" when they have PAC money coming out the ass? What a bunch idiots. Seriously, just an awful ad. Poorly edited, message isn't all that compelling, just done very poorly overall.

Also, wtf is this poll PD posted? We Luv Purple polling or some crap, wtf. Every week I see some new bullshit pollster.

He said he was giving help to the donor class, not getting.

 

[Diablos]

Yes, "I scratch your back and you scratch mine". Romney's people have embraced the special interests that are fueling their campaign, too. Hence part of the reason they have PAC money coming out the ass.

 

[Wilsongt]

Why is Rombot being so adamant about not releasing his tax returns?

 

[RDreamer]

He said he was giving help to the donor class, not getting.

Except that the "donor class" for Obama is a helluva lot poorer than the one for Romney. In April Obama had 15.88 million from those that donated under $200. Romney had just 1.67. Nearly half of Obama's contributions come from those donating under $200. So, yeah, I guess if Obama wants to help the "donor class" for him, then that's not so bad... Now if Romney wants to help his donor class.....

Why is Rombot being so adamant about not releasing his tax returns?

Because whatever's in there is worse than the backlash from not releasing them and the speculation that comes along with that.

 

[AlteredBeast]

Yes, "I scratch your back and you scratch mine". Romney's people have embraced the special interests that are fueling their campaign, too. Hence part of the reason they have PAC money coming out the ass.

Well of course, but there is no way for Obama to retort with, "you have X campaign donor on your cabinet or as X czar"

It is effective because while every company gives money, sometimes to both parties or candidates, only one is an incumbent who looks like he is rewarding donors and friends with positions in government.

 

[codhand]

Why is Rombot being so adamant about not releasing his tax returns?

Because they reveal his hidden wives.

 

[Hitokage]

Because they reveal his hidden wives.

*groan*

Of all the comedic material to work with, you pick the most brainless, tired, and outdated line.

Then again, maybe I'm the only one that laughs at the thought of "Bain Capital's Little Factories".

 

[AlteredBeast]

*groan*

Of all the comedic material to work with, you pick the most brainless, tired, and outdated line.

Then again, maybe I'm the only one that laughs at the thought of "Bain Capital's Little Factories".

You and I might be the only one that would know what that last part even means.

But yeah, a polygamy joke is even more tired than Kenya Socialist Secret Muslim Hussein.

 

[Amir0x]

i must have missed this line before if Obama said it, but I chuckled when he said "The Affordable Care Act... Obamacare... and I don't mind the name, because I really do care." So cheesy lol

 

[Diablos]

Why is Rombot being so adamant about not releasing his tax returns?

I dunno. Everyone should be asking John McCain

Well of course, but there is no way for Obama to retort with, "you have X campaign donor on your cabinet or as X czar"

It is effective because while every company gives money, sometimes to both parties or candidates, only one is an incumbent who looks like he is rewarding donors and friends with positions in government.

It's really not all that effective. Given that many swing voters are well aware of the implications of Citizens United it's going to be a tougher sell to say that this corporate shill who already has, at a minimum, $1b from PAC donors is somehow above the kind of thing he's accusing Obama of. If nothing else, he's no different.

But really, Obama's "donor class" is made up of people who typically aren't quite as loaded as the folks dumping money into Romney's war chest.

YBut yeah, a polygamy joke is even more tired than Kenya Socialist Secret Muslim Hussein.

Not saying the polygamy jokes are right, but, eh, they'd have a long way to go before they got as played out as Obama's a secret socialist Muslim omfg.

 

[codhand]

You and I might be the only one that would know what that last part even means.

But yeah, a polygamy joke is even more tired than Kenya Socialist Secret Muslim Hussein.

It was more a joke about the using the same line of thought as conservatives did against BHO's birth cert. And yeah no idea what the Bain joke is about.

 

[RDreamer]

Ouch, there's already a nice response to the crony capitalism reboot of Romney's campaign.

I didn't realize he refused to name his top fundraisers... Yeah, maybe he shouldn't go there...

 

[Kosmo]

Ouch, there's already a nice response to the crony capitalism reboot of Romney's campaign.

I didn't realize he refused to name his top fundraisers... Yeah, maybe he shouldn't go there...

Romney’s case against Obama is that clean-energy companies like Solyndra received loan guarantees (through a Bush administration program)

LOL TPM. Is the left still parroting that talking point?

“It’s ironic that Romney would criticize Obama for doing something while shielding his campaign from being similarly criticized,” Krumholz told TPM. “Romney’s house isn’t exactly shatter-proof.”

So it's OK, because Romney will do it too? Man, the heat I get here for that type of analogy.

Obama, by contrast, prohibits his campaign from even using lobbyists as bundlers (although the distinction can be blurry).

LULZ

 

[BotoxAgent]

It's nice to see a corporate vulture like Romney starting to feel the heat, and his past catching up with him. But I am still not satisfied.

 

[AlteredBeast]

It's really not all that effective. Given that many swing voters are well aware of the implications of Citizens United it's going to be a tougher sell to say that this corporate shill who already has, at a minimum, $1b from PAC donors is somehow above the kind of thing he's accusing Obama of. If nothing else, he's no different.

But really, Obama's "donor class" is made up of people who typically aren't quite as loaded as the folks dumping money into Romney's war chest.

I still have reservations with the sentiment. Swing voters are undecided because they don't give a crap. They truly don't understand the implications of Citizens United or care about which campaign has raised the most money. I might have misstated the effectiveness of the ad, but if I were a regular joe on the street and someone told me, "Obama has X amount of people he has appointed to positions of power in the government that donated tons of money to his campaign." I would be kind of annoyed by that. Whether the inverse is true, and Romney has/would do the same thing is irrelevant, you can demonstrate how Obama as done it.

Obama's donor class is the same as Romneys. Don't kid yourself. The great fundraising machine of Obama, with millions of people donating 200 dollars or less this time is FAR less prevalent than in 2008. He is relying a lot on the big money bundlers and donators this time around like Romney.

 

[codhand]

Ouch, there's already a nice response to the crony capitalism reboot of Romney's campaign.

I didn't realize he refused to name his top fundraisers... Yeah, maybe he shouldn't go there...

Another Monday, and more talk about Romney. It is admittedly way more fun to make fun of Romney than to talk about a shitty retail sales report or european debt etc.

Obama's donor class is the same as Romneys. Don't kid yourself. The great fundraising machine of Obama, with millions of people donating 200 dollars or less this time is FAR less prevalent than in 2008. He is relying a lot on the big money bundlers and donators this time around like Romney.

I agree, but the conservatives are just acting in their own financial interest.

 

[Clevinger]

You and I might be the only one that would know what that last part even means.

Could you explain it?

But yeah, a polygamy joke is even more tired than Kenya Socialist Secret Muslim Hussein.

I haven't seen all that many polygamy jokes with Romney, really. I do keep seeing something about magical underpants, though, and I don't know what the hell that's about. Something with Mormonism?

 

[Kosmo]

I haven't seen all that many polygamy jokes with Romney, really. I do keep seeing something about magical underpants, though, and I don't know what the hell that's about. Something with Mormonism?

I thought they had to fuck through a hole in the sheet? Something like that.

 

[RDreamer]

LOL TPM. Is the left still parroting that talking point?

First I've heard of it. Not that I really think it matters that much, personally.

So it's OK, because Romney will do it too? Man, the heat I get here for that type of analogy.

Who's saying it's ok? Apparently Romney is the one attacking saying this stuff definitely isn't ok while doing it himself and shielding himself from the possibility of finding out. Now if the attack came the other way, Obama striking first, then you'd have a bit of a point. I mean you really don't find it hypocritical that Romney's attacking on this while shielding most of his donors, and the ones that are known will definitely gain the same sort of monetary advantage that Obama's apparently did? That's literally throwing stones while living in a glass house.

LULZ

Not sure what you're laughing about here. They do a decent job reporting, because they do admit the distinction can be blurry. It still shows Obama's at least trying harder than Romney in that regard, even though it may not end up being by much at all. Sure it's a bit biased, but it seems more fair than most reporting I see on some right wing places like Fox News.

Obama's donor class is the same as Romneys. Don't kid yourself. The great fundraising machine of Obama, with millions of people donating 200 dollars or less this time is FAR less prevalent than in 2008. He is relying a lot on the big money bundlers and donators this time around like Romney.

He's not nearly in the same boat as Romney on this one yet. Did you see the numbers I posted? He's still getting nearly half his donations from $200 or less donors.

 

[Clevinger]

I thought they had to fuck through a hole in the sheet? Something like that.

I think you're mixing up your religions and their myths.

 

[Oblivion]

lol. Has this been posted? Mittens says he's not going to release his tax returns cause John Kerry's WIFE never had to:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLUyr8beeCg&feature=player_embedded

 

[RDreamer]

lol. Has this been posted? Mittens says he's not going to release his tax returns cause John Kerry's WIFE never had to:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLUyr8beeCg&feature=player_embedded

Talk about grasping for straws.... yeesh.

We all know he's just not releasing them because he still needs to retroactively pay them.

 

[The Technomancer]

lol. Has this been posted? Mittens says he's not going to release his tax returns cause John Kerry's WIFE never had to:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLUyr8beeCg&feature=player_embedded

They just keep asking for more and more, like "anything at all".

 

[thefro]

Seriously, there's got to be something really bad in those tax returns if Romney's going to fight this hard on not releasing them.

 

[gcubed]

Meh, for somebody that people say looks at everything in a cost/benefit sort of way, Romney is pretty dumb.

 

[Al-ibn Kermit]

Who cares? She's a black woman. She'll get all the votes!

From black, lesbian, pro-choice Republicans?

Romney is just going to choose somebody boring. He wants a VP that is a moderate conservative, who has no skeletons in his closet, and who doesn't have all his political views on an etch-a-sketch.

And it'll definitely be a white dude. No point rocking the boat with a "Palin".

 

[AlteredBeast]

He's not nearly in the same boat as Romney on this one yet. Did you see the numbers I posted? He's still getting nearly half his donations from $200 or less donors.

I did not see that, can you provide a link again?

 

[The Technomancer]

Meh, for somebody that people say looks at everything in a cost/benefit sort of way, Romney is pretty dumb.

The problem seems to be that he can't mentally jump up a level to weigh the costs and benefits of looking at everything in a cost/benefit way.

 

[reggieandTFE]

lol. Has this been posted? Mittens says he's not going to release his tax returns cause John Kerry's WIFE never had to:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLUyr8beeCg&feature=player_embedded

Please keep talking about John Kerry...

 

[RustyNails]

He wont release his tax returns because he gets tax deductions for his dancing horse.

 

[RDreamer]

I did not see that, can you provide a link again?

Here's the link

That's for March.

This link also says that in March more than ninety-seven per cent of the donations were for less than $250, and the average donation was $50.78.

This article also talks about things overall by the end of April

As of the end of April, 43 percent of the donors who contributed to the Obama campaign gave $200 or less, generating a total of $88.5 million, according to the Campaign Finance Institute, a nonpartisan Washington research group. By contrast, only 10 percent of those who gave to former governor Mitt Romney’s campaign had made donations of $200 or less, accounting for $9.8 million.

In June 98% of people gave less than $250. Average size was just over $50.

 

[worldrunover]

He wont release his tax returns because he gets tax deductions for his dancing horse.

Well, yeah, I mean who doesn't.

 

[The Technomancer]

Well, yeah, I mean who doesn't.

How'd you do at the latest competition by the way? I know you were talking about dropping a few hundred thou on stealing away the Richardson's trainer.

 

[worldrunover]

I did end up stealing him away, but I had to fire him after he picked out the most dreadful outfit for Periwinkle.

 

[Aaron Strife]

From black, lesbian, pro-choice Republicans?

Romney is just going to choose somebody boring. He wants a VP that is a moderate conservative, who has no skeletons in his closet, and who doesn't have all his political views on an etch-a-sketch.

And it'll definitely be a white dude. No point rocking the boat with a "Palin".

Republicans are also idiots who think picking a woman means they win the women vote and that's why they chose Palin, and I wouldn't be surprised if the guys behind that idea are still calling the shots.

 

[reilo]

Worked on some people. My boss (who's usually pretty smart and tends to be more liberal) voted for McCain purely because "well, he picked a woman VP."

How is that different from liberals voting for Obama because he's black?

/Kosmo

 

[Clevinger]

That "I'm not releasing more tax returns because John Kerry's wife didn't" line is something else. Who the hell thought that was a good idea?

 

[Zero Hero]

But yeah, a polygamy joke is even more tired than Kenya Socialist Secret Muslim Hussein.

I much prefer B-Rock the Islamic Shock Superallah Hussein Obama.

 

[TacticalFox88]

How is John Kerry's wife even relevant in any shape or form, past or present?

 

[Hobbestetrician]

How is John Kerry's wife even relevant in any shape or form, past or present?

Candidates' spouses are off-limits but FORMER candidates' spouses are fair game.