The Dark Knight Rises |OT| The Legend Ends (Warning: Unmarked Spoilers Within)
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shira
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On mobile it comes up as pixelated garbageI'm guessing you didn't see the original Batman movies? The photo in the background has been photoshopped to have the Harvey Dent from the 1989 Batman movie.
Thx for clarifying
SCULLIBUNDO
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LOL. It's July.
Inferno313
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It will get a best picture nomination, I'm almost sure of that. If it can finally get Nolan a best director nomination, then I'll be happy.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Fuck, that was a good one. Kudos.
shira
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I'm starting to think Avengers will get one then
Imagine the Fire is such an amazing song.
While the entire soundtrack is great, that one really stands out. Makes me want to put on the bat suit myself and go fight crime.
Which would probably last about 20 minutes before I was either arrested or died, but it would be glorious either way.
While the entire soundtrack is great, that one really stands out. Makes me want to put on the bat suit myself and go fight crime.
Which would probably last about 20 minutes before I was either arrested or died, but it would be glorious either way.
Jables Swan
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A best director nom is a must.
Thought it was alright, not amazing, not bad just good. Ending really made up for everything, but it was really drawn out, and took too long to get going and be interesting. I was hyped for Bane, and he was alright, but again not amazing. I preferred TDK.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Unfortunately it would be a gift nomination, more than anything deserved this time around.
Jables Swan
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I guess it really depends what other movies are made before the cut off and how well the directors directed them.
I know that isn't really how the awards really work but still
Yeah this is probably my least favourite Nolan film. Would have been far happier had he been nominated for TDK. I don't feel like there's much in TDKR that's award-worthy, but I suppose 'award-worthy' isn't as simple as it seems within the context of the Oscars.
RBelong2Us
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It's like Peter Jackson getting it for RotK....it's for the whole body of work.
Definitely deserves at least a nomination unless 5 directors come out with some big time home runs.
Definitely deserves at least a nomination unless 5 directors come out with some big time home runs.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Except that RotK was a flawed film that was still an Oscar caliber film (or what that's meant to mean).
SCULLIBUNDO
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Fellowship is definitely the film that should have won the awards, but RotK wasn't a bad film by any stretch. There are so many great scenes in that film that are seared into my mind.
It is on a completely different level to TDKR.
It is on a completely different level to TDKR.
Invincible ghost army killed it for me...killed it.
Fellowship is the winner from the trilogy and should have won. ROTK has some great moments, but much of it is a mess too. Above TDKR for sure, but it just wasn't a film that should have won, much less even been nominated for the amount of problems it had.
I could see TDKR grabbing a token nomination. Just because they have the spots now, end of an era, etc.
I could see TDKR grabbing a token nomination. Just because they have the spots now, end of an era, etc.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Yeah I wasn't a fan of that at all. But it didn't ruin everything else they did right for me.
planar1280
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ROTK as a film was the weakest of the 3. TDKR as a film is the strongest
SCULLIBUNDO
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1. TTT was the weakest of the three.
2. TDKR is the weakest of the three (but let's not get on that merry-go-round again)
Perfect.
ROTK is a lot like Return of the Jedi. Not a truly great film, but has great moments that you can't forget. Of course TTT is no Empire, I think it's easily the weakest. ROTK's obviously more vital to that trilogy than TDKR though is the striking difference.
4 years later, the shocking thing to me I think is the continued reverence of TDK. That was a film where hype got me, and I think it was a slow burning disappointment. It's not really a masterpiece. I loved large parts of it, will always have a soft spot for it, but I've come around to its flaws. Most people in the mainstream seem to haven't.
4 years later, the shocking thing to me I think is the continued reverence of TDK. That was a film where hype got me, and I think it was a slow burning disappointment. It's not really a masterpiece. I loved large parts of it, will always have a soft spot for it, but I've come around to its flaws. Most people in the mainstream seem to haven't.
LordPhoque
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SCULLIBUNDO
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Yep. I was the one who went and saw the film in theatres roughly 135 million times. I was that guy.
I agree with sculli in that the lotr films, all of them were oscar caliber. PJ was snubbed twice before winning for the third film - which isnt the same case here.
The batman films werent made with awards in mind (inception was), but TDK was an oscar caliber film. If horse turd like frost/nixon could get nominated, then of course this movie shouldve been in the running.
TDKR also doesnt seem like it was made for awards. Expect tech nom only and maaaaybe a best film nom id they expand to 7 or 10 films (compensation oscar, that too)
The batman films werent made with awards in mind (inception was), but TDK was an oscar caliber film. If horse turd like frost/nixon could get nominated, then of course this movie shouldve been in the running.
TDKR also doesnt seem like it was made for awards. Expect tech nom only and maaaaybe a best film nom id they expand to 7 or 10 films (compensation oscar, that too)
I actually just rewatched the 2nd film last night before I caught TDKR today. Overall I liked TDKR least, my main gripes: too many characters and bane was terribly hard to understand at certain points.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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All I always tell people who say that TDKR was their least favorite is this: watch it again. As explained, there are too many characters to absorb in the first go. By the second viewing, you already know the plot, the characters and their roles. It gets so much awesomer!
I really want Sculli to watch it again in theaters, but I fear there's too much hate in him.
I last watched BB and TDK back to back in April/May. I think I should do a repeat viewing of both of them, then check out Rises again. Only, I'm off in an apartment at school, pretty far from home and my 70-inch with Blu-rays. A TV and Blu-ray I didn't have before this summer
Really blew it not watching them during the month I was home.
Also hate how a Blu-ray's digital copy doesn't necessarily mean HD, so I can't even watch it on my Mac. Some digital copies give you an HD option if you delete them and re-download them, but not TDK.
I last watched BB and TDK back to back in April/May. I think I should do a repeat viewing of both of them, then check out Rises again. Only, I'm off in an apartment at school, pretty far from home and my 70-inch with Blu-rays. A TV and Blu-ray I didn't have before this summer
Really blew it not watching them during the month I was home. Also hate how a Blu-ray's digital copy doesn't necessarily mean HD, so I can't even watch it on my Mac. Some digital copies give you an HD option if you delete them and re-download them, but not TDK.
Inferno313
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I don't think either Inception or TDKR were made for awards. Studios don't invest hundreds of millions into comic book films and sci-fi films (two genres that don't do well with awards at all) in the hopes of getting awards.
The studio made them for money, and Nolan made them because he wanted to tell those stories. Simple as that.
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ViewtifulJC
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WHY IS GORDON EULOGIZING LANDO???
WHY IS LANDO IN A SUIT???
WHATS IN THE BOX????????????????
Yeah I don't know how anyone case watch any of Nolan's past 3 movies (two Batman and Inception) and deduce any of them were made with intentions of winning awards. The fact they get nominated is big enough considering the types of movies the academy absolutely shuns even if the movie industry relies on them to make profit.
I think the only clear cut movies made for oscar season are the drama pieces released right around oscar season.
Its because it is 4 years later and most of those critics only saw it once, didn't pick it up apart for years while waiting for the new one, don't even remember Batman Begins, and tons of them piggy backed off the initial praise and hype for Heath.
Which is perfectly fine since that is how most movies work. TDKR was doomed from the start with TDK having the definitive Joker and the amazing praise the movie received overall. It doesn't help that Nolan upped the ante even more and tried to do way too much with the given run time, so now direct comparisons are super easy for critics.
In fact I am 100% sure most of them went in with only one thing on mind..."I WONDER HOW THIS ONE WILL TOP THE JOKER?". It doesn't and it can't.
You didn't like this movie because Conroy wasn't voicing Batman?
Classy, Mr. Bale. Classy.
Is there a video of this btw?
Not specifically that. I mean, I had a lot of problems with pacing, how clumsy the film felt to me, the introduction of new characters I didn't really care about, and that kind of thing, but the main thing - the overarching thing - is that I expect Batman to be... well... awesome. And there's just something about movie Batman that always, always feels to me, like instead of being Batman it's some goddamn psychopath in body armour, crimefighting with cash. The stupid helm, the visible eyes, the voice; he just doesn't feel like Batman to me. (Also, for half the movie, I had to not actively associate him with Keanu Reeves).
I can't relate to a single thing in this post. Do you keep going to Batman films in the hopes that one day the actor/character will feel like comic Batman?
I know what you mean but at the same time its nearly impossible to do the Batman you see in the animated series. And to me in fact TDKR came closest to the comic book or animated series level of story telling.
Live action Batman will never be like the animated or even the stylized comic book one. It just wouldn't work.
Or Arkham Asylum/Arkham City Batman. But they were voiced by Conroy, so I guess it doesn't count. I don't know; there's just something about having a character so defined and definite in your head. I don't even really like Young Justice Batman or the Batmans in the new DC movies that much, even though they're perfectly serviceable.
I think you can make it work, but buggered if I know how. Probably my favourite superhero translated to live action is Iron Man because his suit looks fucking awesome. More militarised wear like Captain America or Hawkeye worked out alright as well. The bloody cowls always look stupid, though.
I think you can make it work, but buggered if I know how. Probably my favourite superhero translated to live action is Iron Man because his suit looks fucking awesome. More militarised wear like Captain America or Hawkeye worked out alright as well. The bloody cowls always look stupid, though.
Tricky I Shadow
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ROTK deserved every single oscar it got! The movie is an absolute masterpiece IMO.
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