bigboss370
Member
when you directly download a file with your internet (not torrents), and your connection cuts out, your download gets cancelled/interrupted and no matter how big the file, its all gone and you have to restart from the beginning.
Is PSN really this bad?
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This is what I was talking about, Ninja Scooter. What could have been a simple question had you worded the title differently prompted this sort of response.
OldJadedGamer
Banned
I'm pretty sure I have picked up 360 downloads where they left off when I lost my connection.
I love how people are not allowed to dislike a service due to experiencing multiple issues. Why must everything be all positive when an honest reaction for a user turns out to have negative inflections, it's not blind hate, it's dislike fuelled by experience.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
So how is that pile of garbage piece of crap XBL fee working?
You see, it doesn't sound quite as mature as voicing your thoughts in a well rounded manner.
Your logic is terribly flawed in saying that people shouldn't defend this "crap" but haters can hate to their riches desires.
What the glorious fuck?
I think PSN is a steaming pile of shit. If others have had bad experiences too, why can't they voice them? Do we all secretly work for Sony and have to careful what we say?
Metalmurphy
Member
Just found this old screen I took back when I thought PSN switched to P2P
That's ~4MBytes/s, not bits. Basically the max my connection has. 10GB go in like 40 minutes. Not what I would consider slow.
Since I don't own a 360 I can't test, but it's obvious that it wouldn't be better.
That's ~4MBytes/s, not bits. Basically the max my connection has. 10GB go in like 40 minutes. Not what I would consider slow.
Since I don't own a 360 I can't test, but it's obvious that it wouldn't be better.
Since it can't and all
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
So because others "defend" it, that gives you free pass to use your language? Wanna talk about it on Steam? I don't act like this as a facade. Represent yourself a little better then you may earn some leverage with your words. Otherwise, you look like a fool.
I think PSN has lots of problems. I've hardly used it the last year. This is regardless of what I think. I would come into XBL threads with people coming in with harsh unnecessary language. If this is a serious discussion then let's be serious. This isn't the playground at school.
Let me draw that in crayon for you one more time - Voice your opinion but try to do it without making yourself sound like you're heavily biased. Post histories and profiles speak a lot in some cases. I don't think I quoted you originally, to be clear. Moving along.
PSN needs work. Period. Long and short is that it's not XBLA but it really doesn't have to be. Internet speeds are half than my PC as I said earlier. Far from this "POS" as some would like to phrase.
That would be amazing. Maybe it's a HW issue and not much of a Sony thing. But with some of their incompetence.........Who am I kidding here lol
Yeah sure that sounds swell :/
The playground at school is the last place I remember anyone kvetching this much about someone using "bad words."
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
If you subscribe to PS+, you can get the PS3 to download discounted games after it "sleeps". For regular background download, just shut the TV off and tell the system to auto-shutdown after download. If the system needs to spin the harddrive in standby mode, it's already using most of the power like regular download anyway.
Probably measuring different things. If you fire up the same speed test app on PS3, it should be quick on PS3 also.
Downloading stuff to a PS3 HDD may require additional security checks, opened ports and work (such as disk writes). I suspect in your case, these may be the source of your issues.
It's not difficult to resume a download. The download servers are standard. The client just needs to be a wee bit smarter, that is all. That's why I think they should update the PS Store app. It's getting very very crowded with more effort going into DD.
Graphics Horse
Member
Maybe 5-10 years ago.
Firefox seems to handle it fine. I think it depends on the host though, some don't allow resumed downloads but most do.
Hmmm... I've never experienced any of those issues with PSN. I had my internet go down once while downloading and it just resumed upon coming back online 20 minutes later. As for speeds - also I have never had any issues with large downloads - I'm actually surprised by PSN sometimes.
My only beef is that it takes a moment for my friends list to fully show my online friends. Not long but maybe 20 seconds to fully populate.
My only beef is that it takes a moment for my friends list to fully show my online friends. Not long but maybe 20 seconds to fully populate.
CadetMahoney
Member
Never had an issue with xbl downloads even at peak hours.
Fixed that for you & this_is_gaf.gif
test_account
XP-39C²
Its the way things are being represented that people react the most on. I've seen very few people who attack others if they represent a issue they have in a more straight forward manner. When using words like "omfg this is a piece of shit wtf! go to hell (insert name/company here)", i'm pretty sure that is what people react to, not because someone had a bad experience with something.
whalleywhat
Member
Why does someone who's experiencing an issue have any responsibility to some console warrior? They're venting their legitimate frustration.
test_account
XP-39C²
What i said isnt really related to consoles, it is a general thing. It is more about the use of language and how things are represented.
Recall and CadetMahoney implied that people have a problem with others who had a bad experience with something. Maybe there are some cases of that, but i just pointed out that it is the way things are represented that most people react to, not because they have a bad experience with something. Otherwise people just express their view, maybe saying that a certain issue isnt really a big deal to them etc..
Sure, people can vent. But depending on whats said during this venting, i think it should be expected that people can react to it and say their opinion about it.
EDIT: This isnt directed to the OP by the way. It was more about the comments like the "piece of trash" and "go to hell", things like that.
RukusProvider
Banned
Gotta stick up for your corporate team even if it means giving reality a kick in the balls.
Personally, PSN is the main reason I gave up on the ps3, relegated it to a BR player only and have no interest in the ps4.
R_thanatos
Member
Well.As i said before he would had this problem if he just pressed cross to put it in backgroud download.
Also the thread title is bad.
There are legitimate reasons to blame the user this time.
RukusProvider
Banned
Why is there even a difference between foreground and background downloading? How does that make any sense?
ihearthawthats
Banned
you mean four pages of people having a non-issue with psn downlading? but even then, it's been about half and half, so i have no idea what you're talking about.
as for me, i've never had an issue and my download speeds are very fast (latest download for me was cs:go (2.3gb), which downloaded in about 10 minutes).
Monty Mole
Member
By default, here on Virgin Broadband in the UK, PSN is so slow for me whilst Xbox Live maxes out my connection.
However, if I use the Privoxy method and connect my PS3 to PSN via my PC, then I get full speed. So on that basis, there's nothing wrong with Sony's servers, but the (P2P?) ports they are using don't go down too well with some major broadband providers as they must be throttled.
My two friends who are on Virgin have the same issue of insanely slow PSN downloads. However, when I was on O2 I didn't have any issues at all.
Sony needs to be working with the broadband providers on this to ensure that the ports PSN uses aren't throttled. Either that, or Sony needs to use different ports to the ones that P2P clients use.
However, if I use the Privoxy method and connect my PS3 to PSN via my PC, then I get full speed. So on that basis, there's nothing wrong with Sony's servers, but the (P2P?) ports they are using don't go down too well with some major broadband providers as they must be throttled.
My two friends who are on Virgin have the same issue of insanely slow PSN downloads. However, when I was on O2 I didn't have any issues at all.
Sony needs to be working with the broadband providers on this to ensure that the ports PSN uses aren't throttled. Either that, or Sony needs to use different ports to the ones that P2P clients use.
Ardenyal
Member
You kind of missed the point aswell, Zing. The download wouldn't have been cancelled without the whole internet cutting out thing, third world internet and all (I'm assuming this happened in the US) but you should expect a better service.
I'm with Scooter on this one. Separate dowload 'states', that have different properties is clunky at best. You want to make it as simple as possible for all users. As for speed I have always had slow download speeds, even with a decently fast connection ~75 mbps. On both the Vita and Ps3. Don't get me wrong, I still enjoy the service and can't complain about the price, but it certainly could improve.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
No there isn't.
DarkAkatosh
Neo Member
I tried to download the Dead Nation patch last night. 375 mb. It said it would take over 300 minutes to download. That's not right.
[Clark Gable]
Banned
You can tell how ignorant some people are on here. On XBL I can download a 2gb demo in 8 minutes. Rest assured it is anything but slow. I forgot though, this is SonyForums.
PSN is definitely awful. It's inexplicably slower than when I had a 360 and it's slower than my Steam downloads despite using the same wi-fi on all 3. And then the installs....an hour to install a 14gb game after the 7 it took to download in the first place. Terrible. Trophy syncing is equally bad.
I can record you a video that shows that my XBL downloads are just as slow as PSN downloads if not slower. 1-2MB/s max. NAT Open, of course and both consoles are wired to the router. I get full speed (12.5MB/s) when downloading stuff from sites like GiantBomb and at least 7MB/s on Steam.[Clark Gable];41396941 said:
Has nothing to do with ignorance but since there are people who get faster speeds than me on XBL I'll not run around and pretend that the service is shitty for providing me with crappy speeds. I'll listen to the experience other people are having, I'll ask them for advise on how to speed up the downloads but at some point I just have to deal with it.
edit: Said wireless, meant wired.
edit²: Let me show you how blazing fast XBL downloads are for me (downloading the Counter Strike Demo).
R_thanatos
Member
keep telling yourself that
Background download should be the standard, default, only mode of download off the PSN store. Because, for one, you can pause and resume them and shit just works.
There's no point in ever using the modal download.
I can peg my new 50MBit connection with PSN downloads usually, but in the odd case where things go "slow" (1MB/s), the fix is to simply pause all, then resume all. This switches you to a new CDN server.
There's no point in ever using the modal download.
I can peg my new 50MBit connection with PSN downloads usually, but in the odd case where things go "slow" (1MB/s), the fix is to simply pause all, then resume all. This switches you to a new CDN server.
Really?
Blaming the user for not being able to understand a product due to a confusing and unexplained difference between two separate download options is lazy. If it was an intuitive or simple design, the user would have no problems. Bad or complicated design without explanation seems to be the problem more than the user.
Wouldnt shock me in the least if true. Patents....serious business!
Kazuma Kiryu
Member
[Clark Gable];41396941 said:
you can also tell how some people are even more ignorant than the others. Some PSN folks say they have no problem with it, some say they have. Some XBL folks say they have no problem with it, some say they have. SonyForums i guess.
That's a great way to dismiss valid criticism. Never mind multiple people have said it's slower than their 360 and PC.
A lot of people also have their PS3 connected over wireless because it has built in wifi. I have a hard time trusting random people thinking they know what they're talking about in the context of networking. I haven't seen any empirical evidence to support their claims that PSN is significantly slower across the board.
Just throwing in my 2 cents on the speed thing. I have an 80 Gb PS3 phat and a 250Gb PS3 slim. On the same internet connection (tried wired and wireless on both) I get super fast speeds on the PS3 slim (comparable to Xbox/Steam downloads) but the PS3 phat is crazy slow. Literally takes 4-5 hours to download 1 Gb compared to maybe 20 mins on the PS3 slim. No noticeable difference between the wired and wireless speeds on either for me.
That's true. Let's dismiss the other side instead.
EscoBlades
Ubisoft Marketing
Oh do shut up.
Congratulations, you have just won this thread. Courtesy of Sony, you now get free PSN for life. Enjoy.