Is PSN really this bad?
- Thread starter Ninja Scooter
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Pretty sure it varies by region and by how many servers Sony has in that area.
R_thanatos
Member
is this a joke post ?
Everything sony does requires an extra step, even their websites. I have to log on to their playstation.com, click blog and you have to log on to that, go to SEN and you have to log on to that, want to post on their forum and you have to log on to that.
Single Sign On please Sony, Single Sign On.
BruiserBear
Banned
They also have a completely different website for each region of the world, because that makes a ton of sense. Some have PSN friends list features that other don't, etc. It makes absolutely no sense.
Europe has an official iPhone PSN app, while the rest of the world doesn't. lol
Same here. I once set up a proxy with my home PC and saw a little boost, but I usually get 1-3 megs per second.
Ninty Legend
Member
There goes my lol of the day.
CaptainABAB
Member
Remember how people made fun of Vista for having so many options in the shutdown menu?
http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2006/11/21.html
In my view this is the same thing. The user shouldn't have to know that one approach is better than another. Either both should be resumable or PSN should automatically move large downloads to background mode automatically.
test_account
XP-39C²
There a bit different here though, since on PSN you're only presented with one option, and that is to do background download (well, there also the option of canceling it i guess, but that choice is self explanatory). Otherwise you're stuck at the download screen right there.
CaptainABAB
Member
I don't think PSN has too many options, but blaming the user for not using background download when it should be directed toward PSN for not support resume in Active Downloads.
test_account
XP-39C²
I havnt read every post in this thread, but i would guess that the blaming is more about saying how poor the system is when a single press of a button could solve the problem. The OP said he used background downloading before, so at least he knew about that feature, but unfortunately he didnt know about the resume part.
It probably sucks right there and then when stuff like this happens, i can see that, but luckily it is just about a download, and he is aware of it now, so it shouldnt be any problems in the future
By the way, to everyone who refers to PSN, this is more of a PS3 thing rather than PSN. On Vita, if you download something, it automatically adds the file to a download list where you can pause and resume a download, and background download is actually the only option (which happeneds automatically). Vita also uses PSN. The PSP on the other hand doesnt even support background downloads, and it also uses PSN.
Lion Heart
Banned
I've noticed a correlation between how much people like PS3 exclusives and PSN download speeds. The ones that hate them seem to also have pretty shitty speeds and the ones the like them get fast speeds. Its like Sony knows...
test_account
XP-39C²
The CELL processor is capable of a lot of things hehe
lolwut
Barkley's Justice
Member
PSN is type unusable for me. When I downloaded Journey it took so long I HAD TO GO TO SLEEP
People who experience slow download may also have HDD (or file system) issues. It's hard to tell unless a techie goes down and troubleshoot the issue one by one. ^_^
I remember someone here has fast speed on 1 PS3, and slow speed on another PS3 in the same household.
My PS3 network speed is quite close to a PC/Mac.
Melchiah
Member
The modem may also have an effect. I switched from 10MB to 40MB connection, and changed a modem as well, as a result my Wi-Fi download speeds went drastically down. EDIT: I also had hard time accessing and browsing the PSN Store, let alone play online. It all changed when I switched to wired connection.
Knowing what I know about the PS3 and everything related to it's relation to the internet, I will never download anything on PSN that I can get on any other platform. I've had 2 different PS3s used on wifi and wired and it has always sucked terribly. There is currently not a console (current gen) or PC in my home that doesn't handle downloads better than the PS3. I absolutely hate it.
It's a shame because I'd like to be a PS+ member but will never venture into that territory.
It's a shame because I'd like to be a PS+ member but will never venture into that territory.
It's your fault for not downloading it int he background. Not sure why you're complaining why Sony doesn't do it mandatory, at least the option is there and it's just 1 press of a button away. I understand your frustration though but big downloads should never be downloaded directly, just do background download. I think Vita automatically does background downloads, so I'm sure PS4 will do so too.
With speeds that low already of course you have no problems.
DidntKnowJack
Member
Not making excuses. It's obviously their fault. I'm just saying, it's not a big deal to hit one button.
Bunch of drama queens in this thread.
I use wireless, and it maxes out my home's dl speeds when grabbing something off of the store.
I also download everything in the background. Then click "Turn off System After Download" and it installs it for you as well.
Wake up the next day, and everything is ready to play. No muss, no fuss.
I also download everything in the background. Then click "Turn off System After Download" and it installs it for you as well.
Wake up the next day, and everything is ready to play. No muss, no fuss.
entremet
Member
Classic Sony there.
I've always found trouble with PSN in everything. Downloads, lag with online play. Whenever I play SSFIV its like I'm playing underwater. It's shitty.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
This. Evidently I'm in a good area (Gothenburg, Sweden), because I always get 2-3 MB/s from PSN (which isn't close to maxing out my connection, but perfectly acceptable to me given that it's a free service). PSN being slow as all hell is something I personally do not recognize at all.
entremet
Member
Being constructively critical and giving feedback is dramatic? What?
Yap, the common web and community services should be universal.
1MB/s = 8Mbps. That's probably a standard starter plan, like a 10-12Mbps plan ?
Mine measures 96.2Mbps (download) on the PS3. Have never had any problem with PSN download -- other than the EoJ security server check.
Did you manage to get the bandwidth back up ?
The lag may be caused by players from other regions joining your session. PS3 games are region free. If possible, try to set the game to use your local servers -- if applicable.
Melchiah
Member
The download speeds went back to what they were with the older modem, that is somewhere between 1-2MB/s. So I guess there's a some kind of limit, as there wasn't that much of a difference between 10MB and 40MB connection.
Ninja Scooter
Member
And find me someplace where Sony themselves give this "reason".
OldJadedGamer
Banned
Take what you get and shut up about it.
Melchiah
Member
Who would want to wait still, doing nothing with the system while downloading? Perhaps Sony thought it was obvious to people, that the larger files are better to be downloaded in the background. At least it was obvious to me.
Ninja Scooter
Member
I literally wasn't going to do anything with my console which is why I left it like that. It's not a big deal but its still bad design and it's stupid to blame the user.
PSN in general is horrendously slow. I bet the 10 gig install would have taken a hour or two easily.
Melchiah
Member
I often leave the system to download as well, and go do something else in the mean time, but always in the background. I download only the smallest files (like themes and skins) while I'm in the store.
Depends on the number of files in that bundle. The PSN speed may not be the issue. It's the security checks writing to the HDD that may slow things down during install. The more files you have, the more checks.
If the PSN is horrendously slow, something is probably misconfigured between you and the PSN servers. It may also not be network related since I believe it was Zoe who mentioned that one of her PS3 flew while the other crawled in the same network at roughly the same time.
I wanted to test more but both my PS3s are fast. I could try to borrow one from a co-worker though. Perhaps some day...
Johnny Cage In The Shower
Member
Hey guys! Why do Honda civics suck?
... Just when I finally synced my iPhone with it's Bluetooth system, it lost connection again.
... Just when I finally synced my iPhone with it's Bluetooth system, it lost connection again.
Ninja Scooter
Member
Again, I understand that now, but it's still a poor design choice from jump to design ittat way, and on top of that, to not have some sort of little pop up window or something that simply explains the differences or suggests why you should use one method or the other. The fact that you have to go on a message board to figure this out indicates really poor software design. That's all.
It's the same way how there are actually some games for sale on PsN that have no screenshots or videos available. Are people just supposed to buy them sight unseen or bases on a text description? Obviously I can jump online and google the game and see what it is, but that is still piss poor godawful design and UI.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
I get all that but it seems like something that every service has.
Is PSN that bad? No, that's the short answer.
Comments like this do nothing for the conversation. If I didn't know you, I'd think of you as biased or immature based on your candor.
Your profile suggests the same but let me guess, you have a friend with a PS3 or just are so ashamed you forgot to link your PSN ID but have your XBL tag there?
Enlighten me since you look awfully biased with them harsh words.
whalleywhat
Member
I don't know why a lot of you think background downloading implies any more functionality than what it states. There's nothing intuitive about it. There's no reason to think that it means anything more than "do other things on your PS3 while this download is happening".