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You either enjoy playing something it or you don't. As you say making something longer doesn't help, but how can it hurt by the same token unless there's some external factor FORCING you to persevere past the point where you've had enough?

Its a nonsensical complaint for anyone living in the real world. Its like going to a banquet and bitching that there are too many courses on the menu. Why are you forcing yourself?

In this game's case, where its structured into several smaller scenarios, that analogy is very much on point.

You can enjoy (or merely tolerate) playing something then get annoyed and worn out on it as it goes on too long.
 
You either enjoy playing something it or you don't. As you say making something longer doesn't help, but how can it hurt by the same token unless there's some external factor FORCING you to persevere past the point where you've had enough?

Its a nonsensical complaint for anyone living in the real world. Its like going to a banquet and bitching that there are too many courses on the menu. Why are you forcing yourself?

You can enjoy playing something for awhile, but grow bored and stale about it over time and sour your opinion about the entire experience. To use your metaphor, it's like eating tacos every meal of every day for a month. It's fun for awhile, but eventually you get to the point you never wanna see a fuckin' taco again.
 
Well that's that.

2012 GOTY is looking to be "Which of these games did you hate the least".

I think there is a chance something like Journey might take it. That will thrill some people, at least. Will be kind of funny to me. If we are talking about GAF voting, anyway.
 
Hating on RE6 and Capcom is the cool thing to do this fall. Better jump on the bandwagon or risk being called a troll for liking a game.
But I really liked Dragon's Dogma. Nothing to do with bandwagon Capcom hate. RE6 is just bad and I'm honestly, truly surprised that it has defenders. And a bit dismayed.
 
But I really liked Dragon's Dogma. Nothing to do with bandwagon Capcom hate. RE6 is just bad and I'm honestly, truly surprised that it has defenders. And a bit dismayed.

Dragon's Dogma is just bad and I'm honestly, truly surprised that it has defenders. And a bit dismayed.
 
You either enjoy playing something it or you don't. As you say making something longer doesn't help, but how can it hurt by the same token unless there's some external factor FORCING you to persevere past the point where you've had enough?

Its a nonsensical complaint for anyone living in the real world. Its like going to a banquet and bitching that there are too many courses on the menu. Why are you forcing yourself?

In this game's case, where its structured into several smaller scenarios, that analogy is very much on point.

Not necessarily. In theory, since Capcom spent it resources on 3 (4 campaigns) of a different theme none of the campaigns were particularly polished. It is definitely possible that trying to prepare a full 7 course meal results in the meat being undercooked, the salad being poorly tossed and the tables being set badly. Where as a simple 3 course meal would have given the staff time to spare.
 
But I really liked Dragon's Dogma. Nothing to do with bandwagon Capcom hate. RE6 is just bad and I'm honestly, truly surprised that it has defenders. And a bit dismayed.
DD is amazing. The main reason I like seeing Capcom fail is because they cancelled MML3 and are not making DMC5.
 
This is obvious even just by reading the OT.

What I'm kind of annoyed at is that the OT is focused on the less than steller reviews and completely ignores all of the better reviews that came out today.

Strategy Informer (8/10): http://www.strategyinformer.com/xbox360/residentevil6/2015/review.html

The Verge (4/10): http://www.theverge.com/gaming/2012/10/1/3430374/resident-evil-6-review

CVG (8/10): http://www.computerandvideogames.co...ies-its-survival-horror-roots-forever-review/

Cheat Code Central (9.2/10) - http://www.metacritic.com/publication/cheat-code-central?filter=games

GamesTM (7/10): http://www.gamestm.co.uk/reviews/resident-evil-6-review/

Gamepro.de (81/100) - http://www.gamepro.de/playstation/spiele/ps3/resident-evil-6/wertung/47528.html

Metro (5/10) - http://www.metro.co.uk/tech/games/913833-resident-evil-6-review-no-hope-left

MondoXbox (9/10) - http://www.metacritic.com/publication/mondoxbox?filter=games

Vandal.net (9/10) - http://www.vandal.net/analisis/x360/resident-evil-6/15505

Machinima (7.5/10) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2Qm-LveUig

Gaming Age (B+) - http://www.gaming-age.com/2012/10/resident-evil-6-review-for-xbox-360-ps3/

Console Domination (8.5/10) - http://www.consoledomination.com/game-reviews/2546-resident-evil-6-review

Bloody Disgusting *SPOILERS* (9/10) - http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3...iew-putting-the-action-back-in-action-horror/

3DJeugos (86/100) - http://www.metacritic.com/publication/3djuegos?filter=games

Digital Spy (8/10) - http://www.metacritic.com/publication/digital-spy?filter=games

Planet Xbox (8/10) - http://www.metacritic.com/publication/planet-xbox-360?filter=games

SpazioGames (8/10) - http://www.metacritic.com/publication/spaziogames?filter=games

Worth Playing (8/10) - http://www.metacritic.com/publication/worth-playing?filter=games

Eurogamer Sweden (7/10) - http://www.metacritic.com/publication/eurogamer-sweden?filter=games

JeuxActu (7/10) - http://www.metacritic.com/publication/jeuxactu?filter=games
 
even if ORC was a success and this will at least sell a few million, as a brand, this has been an insanely damaging year for capcom.

Next year wont fare any better. I am not expecting much from DmC, Remember Me and LP3. Either critically or commercially they will fail, objectively it looks this way considering outsourcing has yielded little success for them. Heck if an in-house game like RE6 can be such a cluster fuck the hope for games from 3rd rate or unknown developers hitting the mark is near impossible. Major changes are definitely needed within Capcom.
 
Destructoid 3/10
Gamespot 4.5/10
These two told me all I need to know. Not just angry or disappointed but providing a wealth of specific examples of all the ways it went wrong.

I didn't really expect much. Since Capcom lost every single one of their star game designers (I sometimes wonder if they cry at night over having let this happen) only their fighting games have been decent. They obviously stopped giving a shit about game quality.

Next year wont fare any better. I am not expecting much from DmC, Remember Me and LP3. Either critically or commercially they will fail, objectively it looks this way considering outsourcing has yielded little success for them. Heck if an in-house game like RE6 can be such a cluster fuck the hope for games from 3rd rate or unknown developers hitting the mark is near impossible. Major changes are definitely needed within Capcom.
I just hope Tomb Raider doesn't turn out as big of a fuckup as it seems to have the potential to be.

At least Ubisoft seems on mark with AC3 and Watch Dogs.
 

Its a mainline RE title (A franchise with incredible pedigree ) that is sitting on 69-70 on metacritic. What do you think people are going to focus on?
 
ViewtifulJC said:
You can enjoy playing something for awhile, but grow bored and stale about it over time and sour your opinion about the entire experience. To use your metaphor, it's like eating tacos every meal of every day for a month. It's fun for awhile, but eventually you get to the point you never wanna see a fuckin' taco again.

So you either take a break, or play/eat something else in the meanwhile! Once again, there is nothing forcing you to persevere through to the bitter end unless there's something external compelling you to do so.

It makes no sense especially when a game is split into discrete campaign scenarios. You could just treat the ones you didn't play as free DLC and dip back into them weeks or even months down the line.

Your entire argument is based on the premise that presented with x list of content, you MUST gluttonously consume it until its all done. Why?
 
You either enjoy playing something, or you don't. As you say making something longer doesn't help, but how can it hurt by the same token unless there's some external factor FORCING you to persevere past the point where you've had enough?

Its a nonsensical complaint for anyone living in the real world. Its like going to a banquet and bitching that there are too many courses on the menu. Why are you forcing yourself?

In this game's case, where its structured into several smaller scenarios, that analogy is very much on point.

Let's say you're an amazing Japanese action game starring a ninja. The combat system is smooth and satisfying, and the enemy design pushes the player to use every aspect of it. It has great boss fights. It's an unimpeachable game.

But you want to add more content! It isn't enough! So you throw in a water level in the middle of the game. The character has to swim through canals and rivers. They fight enemies underwater, but their only weapon is a harpoon gun that just fires harpoons when you hit a button. It has none of the things that make the base game enjoyable.

Or you throw some extra levels into the middle with a different playable character. Her levels are short enemy arenas, and she only has a single weapon. It's more content! But does it make the experience better?

If there's content in the game that isn't fun to play in the middle of content that is fun to play, the game would be better served with the bad parts removed. Hopefully we judge games on a standard higher than their ability to kill time. We want them to leave us with the sense of having spent our time well. Poorly designed sections that aren't fun to play feel like time wasted.
 
What I'm kind of annoyed at is that the OT is focused on the less than steller reviews and completely ignores all of the better reviews that came out today.

Strategy Informer (8/10): http://www.strategyinformer.com/xbox360/residentevil6/2015/review.html

The Verge (4/10): http://www.theverge.com/gaming/2012/10/1/3430374/resident-evil-6-review

CVG (8/10): http://www.computerandvideogames.co...ies-its-survival-horror-roots-forever-review/

Cheat Code Central (9.2/10) - http://www.metacritic.com/publication/cheat-code-central?filter=games

GamesTM (7/10): http://www.gamestm.co.uk/reviews/resident-evil-6-review/

Gamepro.de (81/100) - http://www.gamepro.de/playstation/spiele/ps3/resident-evil-6/wertung/47528.html

Metro (5/10) - http://www.metro.co.uk/tech/games/913833-resident-evil-6-review-no-hope-left

MondoXbox (9/10) - http://www.metacritic.com/publication/mondoxbox?filter=games

Vandal.net (9/10) - http://www.vandal.net/analisis/x360/resident-evil-6/15505

Machinima (7.5/10) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2Qm-LveUig

Gaming Age (B+) - http://www.gaming-age.com/2012/10/resident-evil-6-review-for-xbox-360-ps3/

Console Domination (8.5/10) - http://www.consoledomination.com/game-reviews/2546-resident-evil-6-review

Bloody Disgusting *SPOILERS* (9/10) - http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3...iew-putting-the-action-back-in-action-horror/

3DJeugos (86/100) - http://www.metacritic.com/publication/3djuegos?filter=games

Digital Spy (8/10) - http://www.metacritic.com/publication/digital-spy?filter=games

Planet Xbox (8/10) - http://www.metacritic.com/publication/planet-xbox-360?filter=games

SpazioGames (8/10) - http://www.metacritic.com/publication/spaziogames?filter=games

Worth Playing (8/10) - http://www.metacritic.com/publication/worth-playing?filter=games

And out of all of those how many prominent reviewers or reviewers are there who are very good in their trade and in what they do?
 
So you either take a break, or play/eat something else in the meanwhile! Once again, there is nothing forcing you to persevere through to the bitter end unless there's something external compelling you to do so.

It makes no sense especially when a game is split into discrete campaign scenarios. You could just treat the ones you didn't play as free DLC and dip back into them weeks or even months down the line.

Your entire argument is based on the premise that presented with x list of content, you MUST gluttonously consume it until its all done. Why?

If a TV show or movie started out great and then devolved into the exact same thing over and over again, treading water and never finishing or moving along, would you criticize reviewers who called it out on that?

Because that's a far better analogy than your awful and ill-fitting food one.
 
Seriously. It's one thing to dislike a game but a lot of people can't even be respectful about it.

For the record I played the DD demo extensively and did not enjoy it at all, but I didn't then go in threads about it to express my surprise and dismay that there were people who, get this, had a different opinion about it than I did.
 
Seriously. It's one thing to dislike a game but a lot of people can't even be respectful about it.

It's more fun to spend time in a thread related to a game you don't like than a thread related to a game you do like or see yourself playing in the future. =l
 
It's not as though your initial comment was any better. I CAN'T BELIEVE PEOPLE LIKE SOMETHING I DON'T.
Seriously. It's one thing to dislike a game but a lot of people can't even be respectful about it.
What? I'm just being honest about how I feel without insulting anybody. I really just can't believe it, based on the demos and all of the footage shown and the streams of the final game.

I don't think anybody who defends the game is a troll or shill or has bad taste, there's always just personal preferences that override everything, but I seriously just come to a blank whenever I think of "what does this game contain that is worthy of enthusiasm." I just... don't know.
Plenty of good games out this year already.

Wrath of the Lamb, FTL, Spelunky, Journey, Dear Esther etc etc
Despite everything I think I would rather play RE6 than any of the stuff you listed. :|
 
And out of all of those how many prominent reviewers or reviewers are there who are very good in their trade and in what they do?

And out of how many in the OP? A review topic should tackle reviews from all angles I feel, not hyper-focus on the negative ones and not even mention more than half of the reviews today have been more positive than not.
 
And out of how many in the OP? A review topic should tackle reviews from all angles I feel, not hyper-focus on the negative ones and not even mention more than half of the reviews today have been more positive than not.

If there are a good number of reviews that say the game is bad or average, it says something. Especially if good reviewers are the ones who gave the game average or poor scores.
 
Unexpected.... but expected. It's interesting seeing how far the franchise has fallen.

Really, really needs a reboot. Go back to the mansion.
 
So you either take a break, or play/eat something else in the meanwhile! Once again, there is nothing forcing you to persevere through to the bitter end unless there's something external compelling you to do so.

It makes no sense especially when a game is split into discrete campaign scenarios. You could just treat the ones you didn't play as free DLC and dip back into them weeks or even months down the line.

Your entire argument is based on the premise that presented with x list of content, you MUST gluttonously consume it until its all done. Why?

I would love to read your review of RE6.

"Actually, I'm just playing one chapter a week, so I don't get bored with it. Ya know, savor the experience of constant QTEs and slapdash Co-op moments. Should be done with it by next March!"
 
And out of how many in the OP? A review topic should tackle reviews from all angles I feel, not hyper-focus on the negative ones and not even mention more than half of the reviews today have been more positive than not.

He started off with a few negatives (primary) and ended with positives (recency). Or tried to (he can't control the metacritic aggregate).
 
And out of how many in the OP? A review topic should tackle reviews from all angles I feel, not hyper-focus on the negative ones and not even mention more than half of the reviews today have been more positive than not.

XxChrisxRedfieldx91xX from Gamefaqs gives RE6 a 10/10 calling it a visceral experience that serves as a fitting conclusion to the complex tapestry that is the Resident Evil universe
 
What I'm kind of annoyed at is that the OT is focused on the less than steller reviews and completely ignores all of the better reviews that came out today.

Strategy Informer (8/10): http://www.strategyinformer.com/xbox360/residentevil6/2015/review.html

The Verge (4/10): http://www.theverge.com/gaming/2012/10/1/3430374/resident-evil-6-review

CVG (8/10): http://www.computerandvideogames.co...ies-its-survival-horror-roots-forever-review/

Cheat Code Central (9.2/10) - http://www.metacritic.com/publication/cheat-code-central?filter=games

GamesTM (7/10): http://www.gamestm.co.uk/reviews/resident-evil-6-review/

Gamepro.de (81/100) - http://www.gamepro.de/playstation/spiele/ps3/resident-evil-6/wertung/47528.html

Metro (5/10) - http://www.metro.co.uk/tech/games/913833-resident-evil-6-review-no-hope-left

MondoXbox (9/10) - http://www.metacritic.com/publication/mondoxbox?filter=games

Vandal.net (9/10) - http://www.vandal.net/analisis/x360/resident-evil-6/15505

Machinima (7.5/10) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2Qm-LveUig

Gaming Age (B+) - http://www.gaming-age.com/2012/10/resident-evil-6-review-for-xbox-360-ps3/

Console Domination (8.5/10) - http://www.consoledomination.com/game-reviews/2546-resident-evil-6-review

Bloody Disgusting *SPOILERS* (9/10) - http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3...iew-putting-the-action-back-in-action-horror/

3DJeugos (86/100) - http://www.metacritic.com/publication/3djuegos?filter=games

Digital Spy (8/10) - http://www.metacritic.com/publication/digital-spy?filter=games

Planet Xbox (8/10) - http://www.metacritic.com/publication/planet-xbox-360?filter=games

SpazioGames (8/10) - http://www.metacritic.com/publication/spaziogames?filter=games

Worth Playing (8/10) - http://www.metacritic.com/publication/worth-playing?filter=games

Eurogamer Sweden (7/10) - http://www.metacritic.com/publication/eurogamer-sweden?filter=games

JeuxActu (7/10) - http://www.metacritic.com/publication/jeuxactu?filter=games


Probably because outside of CVG and Euro Portugal I have never heard of any of those places.
 
We are doomed!
Not enough AAA console shooters for you, eh? I always knew you were one of those dirty casual mainstreamers, Riposte. *spits*

I actually wanted to put SFxT on there as well, but I didn't want to undermine my general point with subjective/controversial picks.
 
What? I'm just being honest about how I feel without insulting anybody. I really just can't believe it, based on the demos and all of the footage shown and the streams of the final game.

I don't think anybody who defends the game is a troll or shill or has bad taste, there's always just personal preferences that override everything, but I seriously just come to a blank whenever I think of "what does this game contain that is worthy of enthusiasm." I just... don't know.

Despite everything I think I would rather play RE6 than any of the stuff you listed. :|

In that case you should say that you were disappointed with the game rather than the fact that others liked it.
 
EmCeeGramr said:
If a TV show or movie started out great and then devolved into the exact same thing over and over again, treading water and never finishing or moving along, would you criticize reviewers who called it out on that?

Because that's a far better analogy than your awful and ill-fitting food one.

No it really isn't. Games are inherently repetitive. They are mechanical constructions, where every aspect is created and parametrized in advance.
 
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