He means to say read better and post smarter. Probably. I'm not saying this btw. Just what I think he's saying.
Resident Evil 6 - Review Thread | Activist Reviews and the Hate Patrol Destroy Truth
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He means to say read better and post smarter. Probably. I'm not saying this btw. Just what I think he's saying.
what, people finding witty ways of trying to say "I'm smarter than you"?
and the verge review is pretty accurate, going by my time spent with the game.
Jawmuncher
Member
I was exactly right with reviews being all over the god damn place.
However doesnt affect me since I was enjoying the demo, and I regardless it's going to sell well.
I just wonder what this means for Capcom.
RE is one of their best rated franchises (Main Series) and it's their number 1 seller.
I don't think they can affored another all over the place reviews for their 7th outing.
I have a feeling they'll be going to the drawing board again to figure out what to do.
I honestly think the game was just to big for it's self.
Had a huge develoment team and from the RE6 thread some sections are brillant while others are just crap. Not to mention moving the release date up might have been smart sales wise (Its the first BIG title this holiday) but it hurt it in the polishing section.
However doesnt affect me since I was enjoying the demo, and I regardless it's going to sell well.
I just wonder what this means for Capcom.
RE is one of their best rated franchises (Main Series) and it's their number 1 seller.
I don't think they can affored another all over the place reviews for their 7th outing.
I have a feeling they'll be going to the drawing board again to figure out what to do.
I honestly think the game was just to big for it's self.
Had a huge develoment team and from the RE6 thread some sections are brillant while others are just crap. Not to mention moving the release date up might have been smart sales wise (Its the first BIG title this holiday) but it hurt it in the polishing section.
Vyse The Legend
Member
Finished the three main campaigns. I'm zeroing in on a 6.5. The lows are just way too low.
kunonabi
Member
I keep hearing this but did RE5 really sell that much more than RE2?. I looked at Capcom's numbers and it didn't seem to outsell it by all that much. I think it took the Gold edition to actually surpass it.
Uh. No. People constantly misunderstanding posts when they're clear cut and the effective use of strawman doesn't make a compelling argument. From which I've seen in the past few pages has been prominent.
It is kinda ironic, how one day is "lol game journalism" and the other day is like "lol game journalists" are right!!!
In the end, you either play the game or you don't.
If Resident Evil 6 was the one game you were going to buy this entire year and the less than stellar reviews put you off, then buy it used, rent it or wait for a price drop. There are still plenty of games out there and many more that will probably get better reviews.
In my case, negative reviews, bad impressions, etc. usually don't put me off a game.
P.N.03 is one of my favorites games, was trashed by reviewers, game forum users, bombed in sales and probably becuase of the last 2 reasons it won't get a sequel ever. The character won't even get a cameo in a "Vs." or "X" game. Still loved the heck out of it.
Going to pick my copy of RE6 in a few hours and decide for myself. In the worse case scenario, I'll have fun playing co-op with a few friends; just like the demo.
In the end, you either play the game or you don't.
If Resident Evil 6 was the one game you were going to buy this entire year and the less than stellar reviews put you off, then buy it used, rent it or wait for a price drop. There are still plenty of games out there and many more that will probably get better reviews.
In my case, negative reviews, bad impressions, etc. usually don't put me off a game.
P.N.03 is one of my favorites games, was trashed by reviewers, game forum users, bombed in sales and probably becuase of the last 2 reasons it won't get a sequel ever. The character won't even get a cameo in a "Vs." or "X" game. Still loved the heck out of it.
Going to pick my copy of RE6 in a few hours and decide for myself. In the worse case scenario, I'll have fun playing co-op with a few friends; just like the demo.
Ravensmash
Member
So this thread basically boils down to:
- Look at these reviews, this game is awful, Capcom are a joke and RE is ruined and this game sucks
- Look at this review which actually thought it was kind of okay for what it was, or even enjoyed it! They must be getting paid off or are just silly
But then I ventured into the OT today, and the impressions in there are really reflecting this mixed critical reception. Some people are really disliking it, while others are really enjoying it - so maybe it's just one of those games that y'know, really brings in a mixed crowd - which is obvious when you're talking about a game that has radically changed from it's predecessors.
Not saying that some critical dislike of the game isn't warranted or claiming that it's hyperbole, but RE6 was always going to be polarising.
Saying that, I haven't even tried the demo yet, so I might as well download that tomorrow and give it a shot. I likely won't buy (at least not now or at full price), but if I like it and the game is a big, silly action game with a fairly decent atmosphere and varied locales then I may just enjoy it at the right time, I guess.
- Look at these reviews, this game is awful, Capcom are a joke and RE is ruined and this game sucks
- Look at this review which actually thought it was kind of okay for what it was, or even enjoyed it! They must be getting paid off or are just silly
But then I ventured into the OT today, and the impressions in there are really reflecting this mixed critical reception. Some people are really disliking it, while others are really enjoying it - so maybe it's just one of those games that y'know, really brings in a mixed crowd - which is obvious when you're talking about a game that has radically changed from it's predecessors.
Not saying that some critical dislike of the game isn't warranted or claiming that it's hyperbole, but RE6 was always going to be polarising.
Saying that, I haven't even tried the demo yet, so I might as well download that tomorrow and give it a shot. I likely won't buy (at least not now or at full price), but if I like it and the game is a big, silly action game with a fairly decent atmosphere and varied locales then I may just enjoy it at the right time, I guess.
So you haven't played it? The demo is a really, really poor representation of the full game, and watching footage does not give you a sense of how the game actually plays. Especially given that the first stream looked as though the guy was playing under the influence. I thought I was going to loathe Chris's campaign, but it ended up being great. Jake's was the weakest for me, although it had some pretty good sections.
It sold more in a shorter time-span, I think. BH2 had like 50 different ports and re-releases over ten years.
What does the 6.5 mean? Part of the divide is that people think a 7 is average when most publications use 5 as their average.
Riposte
Member
Depends on sales. There will be a RE7 for sure. I am going to guess it is going to be crazy large like RE6, but probably most polished and more directed. If the game bombs hard for some reason, then outsourcing is possible.
"Resident Evil: Revelations 2" is a possibility, but it didn't exactly sell well in the US or Japan. I wonder if it shows up on the 3DS again. Wii U could be an option for next-gen.
That's my speculation.
The moving of the date could be indicative that Capcom knew this was shit many months ago. Doubt a month could have saved it.
They might not wise up if this sells crazy. They can just be in denial about it and act like this is the next CoD franchise. Reviews go to shit but they sell so much, the fans must love it.
I can see that and think the score sounds very fair based on what I have seen.
Snowden's Secret
Banned
I'm just catching up to this thread (HOLY BALLS) but there's no way that a major, numbered entry in one of gaming's pinnacle series can be scoring this poorly.
Right?
Right?
Femmeworth
Banned
Between God Hard and the challenge missions I was mostly satisfied. Could have used more challenge missions and maybe a horde/survival mode. I'll take your word about the scoring system, since I don't care for that sort of thing.
TheBaronOfNA
Banned
LOL Good new thread title.
Well, to be technical, it's already happened so... lol. Yeah.
It's a pretty polarizing game with several elements which people may either find completely disastrous or not care. The whole "different styles of gameplay" in particular did not help them at all.
I'm wondering if their philosophy on that was shotgun.
Yeah guys! Fuck opinions having to do with game quality and what people should spend money on! Why spend money on games that can be deemed batter in some ways? How can you say those games aren't better? There can't possibly be gameplay footage and impressions in multiple threads on a site like neogaf to from a opinion of a unreleased game?
If the general consensus amongst a variety of reviewers is the game is what it is to themselves, chances are when the majority of people interested and buy/play the game that they will share at least one truth or true assessment in their review. Your opinion can be different than the reviewer, but reviewers can be truthful with how they feel, with the amount of people alone some or maybe most people might feel the same way.
Basically, Capcom made a divisive game and a lot of people are making a decision, being vocal about it and stating the next exciting game release for yourself personally isn't some taboo attack, people are being honest. You can have a voice just like other people do.
So I just found out there is no PS Move support....WTF Capcom/Sony or both! What gives!!!1 Do you know how much more fun playing this type of RE game with either move/wiimote!! Just for this I'm really not buying it until I get Gold and move support.
Such an oversight, stupid stupid stupid!!!!!!
I mean is the Move dead, has anyone really made the minimal attempt to make something decent for it, RE 6 move support!!! Unbelievable it really sucks, make me not want to play it for the first time until this. It could have been the first RE game to come out like this, oh well on to BD2 and OPW
Such an oversight, stupid stupid stupid!!!!!!
I mean is the Move dead, has anyone really made the minimal attempt to make something decent for it, RE 6 move support!!! Unbelievable it really sucks, make me not want to play it for the first time until this. It could have been the first RE game to come out like this, oh well on to BD2 and OP
WDance Inferno
Unconfirmed Member
How dare you. Mass Effect 3 was a great game.
I can see their reasoning for the decision but actually putting it into practice did more to hurt the game than anything else. I found Jake's campaign to be almost complete fodder that could be taken out without any real repercussion.
A bit off-topic, and I know the above isn't representative of all OT posters, but this post is the reason why I usually find official threads the least interesting part of visiting GAF. The discourse in them is usually incredibly insular and one-sided, and any opinion against what is considered the regular norm is rejected prima facie without any admission to the alternate perspective on the game in question. It's not that people in them have somehow arrived at a consensus, but that the consensus in itself is not nuanced or complex in its assessment of the game in question. OTs are unfortunately epistemically homogenous and Lucent's post unfortunately serves to illustrate the embracement of such a position.
I can't see it selling less than double what ORC did. So at least 5 million.
Wow, I had no idea Jim Sterling gave ORC 7.5/10. And that's the highest score any reviewer gave it.
Better than paid off ones that take money and force the current gaming review scale to anything under 9-10 as bad.
Is that due to the narrative or due to its gameplay.
Both.
Ugh. Well... that's not promising.
kunonabi
Member
Well the numbers capcom put out only included the PS release although that might have included the dual shock release. RE5 had two platforms plus the gold edition so it seems like a fairly even fight regardless. I just don't see RE5 numbers as smoking RE2 and completely justifying the new direction the series has taken. I guess we'll see how well RE6 does.
Just in case someone wants to do a SS run to demonstrate that controls are fine. Players have platinumed Bayonetta on the PS3 and that is known to have bad frame rate. That a certain group of players suffered through bad design or poor performance doesn't mean the issues aren't there.
I agree but you should care about what Capcom thinks since that's the reason why we're getting this trainwreck for the second time in a row and not RE4 part 2.
Red Blaster
Member
Of course I haven't played it, why would I waste money on something where all signs point to it being garbage? And watching a stream allows me to see what the enemy encounters are like, what the setpieces are like and how terrible the terrible story is. Disregarding a shitty player, there's plenty you can take away from a stream of the game.
Vyse The Legend
Member
I agree with him 100%. It starts of well, then it deteriorates fast and never goes anywhere. It may also have the most QTE's -- although Leon's is close to it too.
Riposte
Member
...
http://www.destructoid.com/review-resident-evil-operation-raccoon-city-224121.phtml
Why didn't this come up sooner lol? Would have made the thread even more fun.
EDIT: For someone who has played both... Would ORC happen to be a lot easier than RE6?
The_Hitcher89
Member
Scattergun development, scattergun reviews
I think focusing on RE2 would be a mistake, it was pretty evident after that game that sales of the series were declining. Even RE4 did not really start selling until they ported it to the PS2.
I still can't quite put my finger on what made RE2 so popular, outside of being excellent. Part of me hopes RE6 will sell well so that they can continue the series, but another part of me worries that the sales will give them false courage over their action-packed set-piece blockbuster direction, which I think we've had enough of. At the very least, they take criticism quite seriously and try to address specific problems. Unfortunately, some of the decisions they made with RE6 nullified some of their best changes.
I watched the first full stream of it myself and was pretty worried. While I have issues with several aspects, the overall game was very satisfying and not at all as bad as watching it indicated. It was a much better experience for me than, say, Metal Gear Solid 4 or Mass Effect 3.
That is CAPCOM's fault for making it exclusive to the 3DS, of all systems. It mirrors their decision to make the main series exclusive to the GameCube way back when. That hurt their sales quite a bit too, even though it was a great decision from a design perspective.
Lucent
Member
I know I said I was done with this thread, but I just want to say that I don't want to be seen as someone who somehow represents the "gaming section". Everybody is here. I just think it's kind of crazy how some people seem to be hating a game so violently. And I've never been to a forum that allowed people to use vulgar language before. Not you, obviously. Your post was very well written. =l
that is amazing
I have a feeling that an enhance version is coming soon to the Wii U..
But Capcom being Capcom will conclude that the style of RE6/ORC is what sells and thus the game design tat works.
kunonabi
Member
The thing is the decline could very easily be attributed to the platforms Capcom started putting their games on. RE3 sold well since it was still on the PS but CV was never going to sell as much being on the DC and RE was never going to be that big on the GC either. RE4 had the ps2 and GC so it sold comparably until the wii version dropped.
The decline might have been a lack on interest but it could very easily have been capcom's poor decision making in regards to the platforms they put the games on.
Yeah, which is why I expressed worry about it.
I suppose so. I would really love it if CAPCOM tested the water by putting out a lower budget but well-designed "survival horror" entry on the PS3/360 with more dedication towards horror than Revelations, but the chances are slim at best. However CAPCOM seem to think that throwing money at something is a sure-fire to success.
Dance Inferno
Unconfirmed Member
A review is an opinion. It's not like someone can be objectively a good reviewer. A review is only good insofar as it agrees with your own opinion; if you disagree with it then it is a bad review, because it is not applicable to you.
It's not a wrong opinion mind you, because such a thing does not exist. But it is a bad review for your personal situation. That's why I don't like the concept of good vs. bad reviews.