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Anticitizen One
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James Cameron should man up and write the script for promethus 2. Ridley should come back to direct
Escape Goat
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If writing a script for an Alien movie is what makes a man then I am oozing with testosterone.
How About No
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Yeah but did anybody in Hollywood accept yours?
Perfect.
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Is there an inconsistency?
Engineer took a full dose, and broke down into genetic soup.
Guy gets a drop in a drink, and cross mutates with a parasite in his blood stream.
Guy dies and falls face down into the goo. Doesn't really ingest any. Cross mutates with the beautiful penissnake.
In every case, the goo is acting as a mutagen. Dosage and the creatures exposed to it seem to exclusively generate the different results.
Someone needs to fan edit the shit out of it, add some delted /alternate scenes,
where they see the mural, if someone could edit in some xenomorph scene from like aliens vs predator or something, remove the flute scene,
remove the squid in abortion scene or if they could somehow put a baby xenomorph there instead of baby squid, remove giant squid, and replace baby xenomorph at the end with previous alien saga xenomorph we could be onto a winner.
where they see the mural, if someone could edit in some xenomorph scene from like aliens vs predator or something, remove the flute scene,
remove the squid in abortion scene or if they could somehow put a baby xenomorph there instead of baby squid, remove giant squid, and replace baby xenomorph at the end with previous alien saga xenomorph we could be onto a winner.
Just watched last night for the first time. I didn't have any expectations, and didnt really know anything about the movie, other then the obvious stuff. Overall decent. The things that bothered me the most were;
1. Weyland - why did they decide to use a young guy (i know Guy Pearce) in make up that looked totally fake, and why the hell was that old dick hiding on the ship?
2. Shaw is in quarantined against her will, escapes and has emergency surgery, then stumbles into Waylans room, and no one says shit even though she is bloody, next to nude, and has a giant stapled laceration across her stomach?
Otherwise decent movie, not good, not bad, just meh.
1. Weyland - why did they decide to use a young guy (i know Guy Pearce) in make up that looked totally fake, and why the hell was that old dick hiding on the ship?
2. Shaw is in quarantined against her will, escapes and has emergency surgery, then stumbles into Waylans room, and no one says shit even though she is bloody, next to nude, and has a giant stapled laceration across her stomach?
Otherwise decent movie, not good, not bad, just meh.
The way the goo worked never bothered me either.
For all we know there were variations of it in the different canisters.
Just watched it and had pretty much the same thoughts. Didn't connect with any character besides maybe Janek and felt indifferent about what went on throughout. A big meh.
AngmarsKing701
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Just watched the blu-ray. I thought it was decent but had two MAJOR hangups.
1. Shaw has major surgery ripping a foreign body out of her and then within hours she's running all over the place, rolling out of the way of the ship, fighting off the Engineer, lowering David's body using a cable attached to her belt at her waist. Those staples would have been ripped open and her guts would have run down her leg. Just mind-bogglingly crazy.
2. So we go find these Engineers, the creators of mankind ... and instead of there being something incredible to learn from this journey, we find out that all they want to do is kill us. That's like making the trek to the top of the mountain to ask the wise man the secret of life and he slits your throat instead. To me that's just a huge cop out.
1. Shaw has major surgery ripping a foreign body out of her and then within hours she's running all over the place, rolling out of the way of the ship, fighting off the Engineer, lowering David's body using a cable attached to her belt at her waist. Those staples would have been ripped open and her guts would have run down her leg. Just mind-bogglingly crazy.
2. So we go find these Engineers, the creators of mankind ... and instead of there being something incredible to learn from this journey, we find out that all they want to do is kill us. That's like making the trek to the top of the mountain to ask the wise man the secret of life and he slits your throat instead. To me that's just a huge cop out.
Pachterballs
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1. yeah.
2. why did they even make those starmaps?
yeah, as much as I enjoyed P, its a pretty stupid movie
AngmarsKing701
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Stargate felt the same way to me. Hey, totally cool gateway to another planet! Hey, there's aliens there!
Hey, they want to blow up Earth and kill mankind with a huge nuke!
I mean, come the fuck on already. Can we have some aliens who build incredibly cool technology to span light years who don't want to just kill us?
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Found additional footage of the alien ship crash scene:
It's like they run away at the end thinking the guy is coming to kick their asses, lol.
SCULLIBUNDO
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There's a very good situation under which they would lead us to them, only to kill us - one which a couple of us hypothesized before seeing the film. Unfortunately, Lindelof went with the cliche'd bullshit of affronting one's creators and committing the sin of trying to assume their position.
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Yeah Shaw went back in the crashed spaceship, no problems with all the spilled vials of black goo or whatever, and finds her way out easily.
What is she going to eat on that ship? Will she sleep in the pod while David drives?
How does he drive?
Does he use something to restitch his head to his body?
What is she going to eat on that ship? Will she sleep in the pod while David drives?
How does he drive?
Does he use something to restitch his head to his body?
Just watched the movie, I liked it. In the end the blue creature attracted my attention, because it looked like the one in Alien movies. I had to go to google to find out this is a prequel of that movie.
I haven't watched Alien
did I ruined everything?
Would humans react differently?
I haven't watched Alien
did I ruined everything?Would humans react differently?
I haven't watched Alien
Go watch Alien and Aliens, then realize why they are considered 2 of the best Horrors and Action Sci Fi flicks ever made and why Prometheus is a sham.
How About No
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I haven't watched Alien
Go watch Alien and Aliens. NOW
DanteFox
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Did you miss the part at the end of the movie where Shaw continues her journey to find out why they wanted to kill them?
Guess he wanted an explanation for the superior being acting like Jason Voorhees, not a promise of an explanation.
CadetMahoney
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Clay Davis
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does anyone know the reasoning or logic behind a lot of the changes and deleting of scenes that actually made the movie a little bit more watchable?
the scene at the end with shaw and the engineer is one that really sticks out, why was all the build up to that scene cut? another scene was the science guy who mutates, why did they change his appearance from the more alien looking one in the deleted scenes to a more human appearance in the final movie?
a lot of the changes and deleted scenes are very bizarre, almost as if there was a good movie but it ended up being butchered and turned into a mediocre movie by the director and / or editors.
the scene at the end with shaw and the engineer is one that really sticks out, why was all the build up to that scene cut? another scene was the science guy who mutates, why did they change his appearance from the more alien looking one in the deleted scenes to a more human appearance in the final movie?
a lot of the changes and deleted scenes are very bizarre, almost as if there was a good movie but it ended up being butchered and turned into a mediocre movie by the director and / or editors.
Nah. Stupid premise is stupid.
Yeah, that's one of the things you better not think about. I'm not even sure if she could sleep in the pod since it's sized for engineers.
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Lindlof will read some science books so that he can explain to you how it will work.
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â Narayan
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I would like to know as well. Everything I've read about Spaihts' version of the film sounds way better than what we ended up getting.
They'll augment one of the pods for her. (Yes, David will be stitched back together, and he'll do this).
She won't need food when she's in hypersleep.
When she's out of hypersleep, here's the twist - the black goo is her food! In its inert form it's a tasty, protein rich sustenance. But she must trust the shady android with the dark past to not activate the goo before he serves her. Creating this 'i'm relying on him to live but he might kill me at any moment' tension.
Or something like that. I'm available for hire, Ridley.
She won't need food when she's in hypersleep.
When she's out of hypersleep, here's the twist - the black goo is her food! In its inert form it's a tasty, protein rich sustenance. But she must trust the shady android with the dark past to not activate the goo before he serves her. Creating this 'i'm relying on him to live but he might kill me at any moment' tension.
Or something like that. I'm available for hire, Ridley.
Clay Davis
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I know it's not on topic and I apologise for that, but what does everyone think about ash's forcing the magazine into ripley's mouth in alien? I recently watched it and that scene is one that's always struck me as not particularly making any sense.
was it sexual in its motivation? or was it as simple as him not thinking clearly and grabbing the first thing he could get his hands on?
on a side note, the picture of a topless women in the bunk where he's choking were a nice touch, I never really noticed them I watched it on blu ray.
was it sexual in its motivation? or was it as simple as him not thinking clearly and grabbing the first thing he could get his hands on?
on a side note, the picture of a topless women in the bunk where he's choking were a nice touch, I never really noticed them I watched it on blu ray.
electroshockwave
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It's a porn mag too so you could take it as another instance of violent sexual imagery. I assumed it was a mixture of Ash going nuts and just grabbing whatever was at hand.
I'm curious what this is. I don't remember seeing it speculated.
That recombines into a 100% match for the Engineers.
And where are you getting that Holloway had a parasite in his blood? If there was a worm in his eye for whatever reason does that mean he had worms in his sperm and that's how he got Shaw pregnant with the squid baby?
Battersea Power Station
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I feel bad because Lindelof seems like a decent guy, buy he brothers me so much. I really do think he's a hack and in many ways embodies Hollywood's problems.
AngmarsKing701
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David tells her there is more than one ship. The one that crashed and had all the goo all over the place is the one they leave. She drops David's body out of it, puts his head in a bag, and then lowers herself out.
Just watched the movie, I liked it. In the end the blue creature attracted my attention, because it looked like the one in Alien movies. I had to go to google to find out this is a prequel of that movie.
I haven't watched Alien
Would humans react differently?
Well, that's the thing about aliens: they're alien. You want them to have behaviors that are alien to us. Even if this guy is our progenitor, we're talking 35k years of difference from when such DNA was supplied. You would certainly hope that beings that have lived that long with such an advanced technology would have more sense than "huh, thing speaking, kill."
â Narayan
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I recall a poster speculating that the Engineers designed situations like the one presented in the film to keep other civilizations in check so that the Engineers could passively maintain their dominance.
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I don't think you should feed bad. Decent guys don't blame their mistakes on others, capitalize on their audience being a bunch of suckers or act butthurt when it doesn't work.
A good way to do that would be to not leave a bunch of maps to your super advanced technology in the first place. Yes, the Prometheus crew got slaughtered, but that's mainly because they were fucking idiots, and you'd think someone would eventually find a way to take advantage of all those toys. Counter-productive much?∀ Narayan;43433661 said:
Battersea Power Station
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Yeah? What did he think were the mistakes, and on whom did he blame them?
I've only skimmed a couple of interviews with him and he's managed to come off as "Well, I'm just doing the best job I can and I know not everyone will be happy" so I just assumed he's an ok dude.
That was on Lost, actually.
(although I would like to check the script and see if the "2 years, 4 months, 18 days, 36 hours and 15 minutes" line really wasn't in it)
Then he also said that even if he fucked it up, it would still have been worth it because he got to work on a Ridley Scott movie. Yeah, we're all glad for you, Lindelof.
â Narayan
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Well, it was pre-release speculation. I'm not implying that I'm a subscriber to the notion now, especially when the narrative of the film suggests otherwise.
CadetMahoney
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He was an android and was malfunctioning because of an internal conflict (cognitive dissonance) between his special orders and prime directives not to harm humans. So his half-hearted murder attempt was weird.
He was also put in as a replacement as the medical officer at the last minute and Special Order 937 was programmed into MUTHER with only his knowledge. IOW the derelict transmission was discovered by the company at some recent point before Alien (1979) tying into Prometheus and sequels.
I'm not even sure the film knows what it's suggesting anyway... When I see Lindelof arguing that "hey, maybe it wasn't an invitation!"...∀ Narayan;43434541 said:
I know some are expecting fan-edits to somehow turn this mess into a good movie, but come on... That's not going to happen. Not when so little thought went into the whole thing.
Starting with the premise:
"Hey, let's make a thinking man's science fiction movie! One that asks big, truly relevant questions, like "who created mankind and why?"!"
Here's an idea for your next sci-fi movie, Mr. Scott:
The rain. Where does it come from?
What if, in the future, mankind finally harnessed the technology to access the source of the rain?
What if, in our hubris, we accidentally released all of the rain at once? And could that possibly explain Noah's Flood?
Hard-hitting, thought-provoking questions. That's what science fiction should be all about, right?
And here's another Big Question: could you please open a damn book before making your next flick? Thanks!
I will! But I thought only the first (Alien) was from the same director of Prometheus.
How About No
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True, but Aliens is still great.
Don't know if this has already been posted but on the early drafts of the scrip Prometheus used to have a chestbursting scene similar to Alien 1.
The chestbursting was intended to occur during a sex scene between Shaw and Holloway.
I'll link the drawing since is a little NSFW (naked man drawing).
Looks really awesome, too bad they scraped the scene.
The chestbursting was intended to occur during a sex scene between Shaw and Holloway.
I'll link the drawing since is a little NSFW (naked man drawing).
Looks really awesome, too bad they scraped the scene.
replicashooter
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I recently picked two random films to watch over the weekend, knowing nothing about either of them.
One was Prometheus and the other was John Carter. Now, anyone else who has seen both of these movies must have picked up on this:
They both feature big, white bald dudes that don't really like humanity but hold a lot more power than average man and take joy in destroying/aiding in the destruction of folk.
What gives? Anyone else think it's a bit strange that two random movies trot out the same trope in exactly the same way? What are those satanic hollywood pedophiles trying to tell us?
I'm watching you hollywood, I'm watching <does eyes/finger thing>.
Also, the whole "sacrificed g_d" thing was lifted from mythology - the tale escapes me but it says that humanity was created from the death of an unwilling g_d and this is why there is a hole in mankinds heart that he cannot fill due to the anger of vital animating spirit.
One was Prometheus and the other was John Carter. Now, anyone else who has seen both of these movies must have picked up on this:
They both feature big, white bald dudes that don't really like humanity but hold a lot more power than average man and take joy in destroying/aiding in the destruction of folk.
What gives? Anyone else think it's a bit strange that two random movies trot out the same trope in exactly the same way? What are those satanic hollywood pedophiles trying to tell us?
I'm watching you hollywood, I'm watching <does eyes/finger thing>.
Also, the whole "sacrificed g_d" thing was lifted from mythology - the tale escapes me but it says that humanity was created from the death of an unwilling g_d and this is why there is a hole in mankinds heart that he cannot fill due to the anger of vital animating spirit.
I think that was intended to be some sort of sexual imagery.. Giger is/was pretty into that sort of thing, and that kind of imagery went a bit further in Prometheus. When the doc was calling to the cute squid creature it ultimately ends up going up his arm, his suit and then going through his mouth and impregnating him in some way. So yeah, definitely a lot of sexual imagery in the Alien universe.
Also, the facehugger impregnating Kane in Alien was a pretty overt sexual metaphor.
The only on I'm aware of is the Enuma Elish, but that's quite different. The universe was created from the dead body of the god Tiamat, and mankind from her husband's blood.
If i recall correctly ridley beings the making of prom. on the bluray by saying he didnt made more scifi movies because everything has been done at some point, and you would need to take stuff from other people.
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