Why should a non-Halo fan care about Halo 4?

Wow, the hate is strong ITT.

Too bad that Halo 4 will still sell roughly ten times the amount of your favorite game, and no end to the Halo phenomenon is in sight.

Suck it, haters!
 
We shouldn't. Halo 4's primary purpose isn't to attract new fans to the series, but to sell a new Halo game to Halo fans, which is an already massive userbase. Since Halo 4 isn't being marketed as a system seller, and there's no need for it to be one, there's no reason for us non-Halo fans to care about it. Which is just fine.
 
A couple of years ago I would have shot this comment down but now that I'm a PC gamer it's pretty much true for me. Just about everything else is on PC or a PS3 exclusive.

I probably didn't indicate it strongly enough in the OP but I do own a 360 and have Gold... I just only use it for Gears 3 horde and HBO Go. Halo 4 firefight would have to be REALLY damn good to go on top of that.

lol @ Halo is best without Flood.

The Flood is pretty much the most important species in the Halo universe, lore-wise. And if done right, the flood is tremendously fun. Reach campaign gameplay is arguably the best in the series, but the missions themselves are inferior to Halo 3 and CE, due to lack of Scarabs and threeway battles.

I'll agree that the Scarabs in Halo 3 were awesome and that CE still had the best battles, but that's kind of the point. What is Halo 4 doing to match that?

So you want a rich campaign, but don't want to keep up with the lore? Ok, you don't need to know anything about the side fiction. It's a new trilogy, with a new story, with new characters, with pretty much new everything.

When I want campaign I don't mean story, just good missions. Honestly the only part of the Halo story that enticed me to begin with was the futuristic military setting and the whole "humans vs covenant" thing. As soon as the Forerunners and Flood get involved my interest drops.
 
Wow, the hate is strong ITT.

Too bad that Halo 4 will still sell roughly ten times the amount of your favorite game, and no End is in sight.

Suck it, haters!


Too bad COD will sell ten times the amount of Halo. So it looks like your going to have to do the sucking.
 
You shouldn't care. The single player experience isn't fantastic by any stretch of the imagination - I'm not sure an FPS ever will be.

People play Halo for multiplayer. If you don't care for that, then you shouldn't care about Halo.

Halo 4 doesn't have Firefight.

There is so much bullshit in this post. Don't listen to this.

Don't forget about Spartan Ops OP!
 
It depends on what your looking for in a game. Some play it for the multiplayer and objectives, some for the story, ect. For me, it's the online multiplayer and playing with friends. Good random times.

There is so much bullshit in this post. Don't listen to this.

Don't forget about Spartan Ops OP!

ALmost forgot. That's gonna be something amazing all on its own. They put a story in my multiplayers!
 
I think I'd be bored of Halo if I'd of play every game one after another.

I think I'd also not think that the first game was the best in the series
 
You shouldn't care. The single player experience isn't fantastic by any stretch of the imagination - I'm not sure an FPS ever will be.

People play Halo for multiplayer. If you don't care for that, then you shouldn't care about Halo.

Halo 4 doesn't have Firefight.

Well fuck that shit then. This and BO2 not having Spec Ops Survival just about confirms I'll be sticking with 2011 shooters for a while.
 
I've played every Halo in bits and pieces (some in totality like 3 and ODST) and it seems like an unremarkable franchise in every way. I am still interested nonetheless. Halo 4 seems to have a ton of content but I refuse to pay for Live -- so, price drop for me . They are all solid titles worth playing.
 
or try to recapture the campaign magic of Combat Evolved.
Alright, this I think is unfair.

I've been fairly critical of many things about Halo 4, the rest of HaloGAF knows this, but this is the one thing 343 are trying to do.

-A completely new set of enemies, i.e. a new combat sandbox, the very reason Halo is held in high regard but had been milked with the Covenant
-An actual antagonist rather than an unclear mish-mash of stuff, a lot of the games don't even have one
-An unfamilar setting - less of the not hugely interesting human levels and instead in an Active Forerunner structure (apparently) unlike the Halo's we've been on before
 
its all been said already, no one is forcing you to like any game, and you shouldn't be forcing yourself either.

i dont care for most things nintendo anymore so i just ignore them, im not gonna force myself to like them just because a lot of gaf does, and im not gonna make a thread about my dislike, or even venture into threads to let everyone know i dont care for them.

just not worth it, stick to what you like, try some stuff you're unsure of, once you know you dislike something just avoid it
 
No you shouldn't care. Not a Halo fan myself, I did a mistake buying Halo3 and had no idea wtf was going on story-wise and I didn't like mp as well. I think at that time Warhawk MP was more fun tbh.
 
This reeks insecurity.

And stuff like this
You shouldn't care about it because it is a bad game.

Buy something good with your money like a taco.
doesn't?

You can dislike Halo, but the fact is, it's a great game.


I don't care for Grand Turismo or Forza, but I can still acknowledge that they're good games.

Grow the fuck up, guys.
 
Call of Duty isn't quite as boring as Halo, though.

You are one of the saddest Playstation fanboys on this site. I mean it's just hilarious how utterly blatant your affinity for Sony is.


Alright, this I think is unfair.

I've been fairly critical of many things about Halo 4, the rest of HaloGAF knows this, but this is the one thing 343 are trying to do.

-A completely new set of enemies, i.e. a new combat sandbox, the very reason Halo is held in high regard but had been milked with the Covenant
-An actual antagonist rather than an unclear mish-mash of stuff, a lot of the games don't even have one
-An unfamilar setting - less of the not hugely interesting human levels and instead in an Active Forerunner structure (apparently) unlike the Halo's we've been on before


I still think they should have waited for next gen to start a new trilogy. Halo 4 as a launch title would have had the same effect that Halo 1 did for the Xbox.
 
His post history makes that obvious, yes.

He's passionate about his platform of choice and so am I by the way. The difference is that I like PC AND consoles and I'm happy to play on all platforms. I would never shit on consoles because they brought me so many hours of enjoyment, I remain a PC gamer primarily but that does not mean I hate consoles at all.

In his case he seems upset/mad whenever someone criticize Sony or a PS3 version in general.

Quite amusing.

You are one of the saddest Playstation fanboys on this site. I mean it's just hilarious how utterly blatant your affinity for Sony is.
Sometimes he is genuinely funny, I don't have the faintest idea whether or not he's serious though.

And stuff like this
He's entitled to his opinion.
 
I'll agree that the Scarabs in Halo 3 were awesome and that CE still had the best battles, but that's kind of the point. What is Halo 4 doing to match that?
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Play the game and find out?

Dudebro games sell well. You're not revealing anything new here.
Comments like these always confuse me. I have a huge distaste for machismo and bro-attitude in games, and there's very few moments in Halo that I perceive as such.
 
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Play the game and find out?


Comments like these always confuse me. I have a huge distaste for machismo and bro-attitude in games, and there's very few moments in Halo that I perceive as such.

Halo MP appeals to the dudebro crowd, but the campaign and lore itself is among the least dudebro-ish FPS' these days.
 
First, OP, why didn't you like the Flood? They change up the gameplay in a way that can be really interesting. The people I know personally who have troubles with the Flood have them because they can't adapt to fighting them. They keep thinking that Halo "plays the same," when it really doesn't.

With that out of the way, there are two really big reasons why you should pick up Halo 4:

1. Halo has absolutely excellent gameplay and mechanics. There are so many interesting ways to approach any given combat encounter that it's a blast to mess around with.

2. They've got a rockstar team. There are ex-Rockstar guys, ex-Retro guys, ex-id guys, ex-Bungie guys, ex-Naughty Dog guys... It's a huge cast of some of gaming's best and brightest.

Also: they're releasing a ton of free co-op content, so there's that.

I still think they should have waited for next gen to start a new trilogy. Halo 4 as a launch title would have had the same effect that Halo 1 did for the Xbox.

My understanding is that they are working on a new shooter IP to launch with the Xbox. It seems like they have a big shooter IP for each Xbox launch.
 
Why should anyone care about any game?

Because it has a good metacritic score.

Haha (kidding)

Seriously tho-if Halo 4 doesn't interest you, by all means ignore it. There is literally nothing telling the world en masse that Halo 4 will be the next coming of Jesus. Even the ads for it (so far) have been low key-compared to Reach or Halo 3.
 
Wait a second... I just looked at the wiki and this is going to have a COD style progression and unlock system?

Really? Shit. One of the things I liked about Reach was that it felt like it was trying to be a leaner, more balanced game where all the unlocks were purely cosmetic. Y'know, you could just sit down and play the game without having to worry about progression.
 
It's one of the few shooters that's open ended in its design. The AI is still awesome as well especially in legendary.
 
Wait a second... I just looked at the wiki and this is going to have a COD style progression and unlock system?

The entire MP is pretty much Halo gameplay mixed with call of duty. You have unlocks, perks, some form of killstreaks. It's really stupid but I'm getting it mainly for the single player since Halo mp has been worthless since Halo 2 and this game only seems to be making it worse.
 
Halo MP appeals to the dudebro crowd, but the campaign and lore itself is among the least dudebro-ish FPS' these days.

It's a competitive online FPS, dudebros are like Ants to Honey with those.

The only thing that makes it dudebro is the way that gaming outlets ape American sportscasting when talking about online FPSs.
 
These kinds of "I don't like Halo" threads should not be allowed. For some reason, Halo is pretty much the only game in the industry that people are allowed to trash talk and I don't know why.

You are either a Halo fan or you're not. Its not the responsibility of others to convince you why you should like something. If Halo is not for you, move on to something else. If you don't understand why people like it, odds are you never will and that's that.

I don't see "Why should I like FF" threads.

Then again, great things will always have haters. It means you have made it with your game.
 
Comments like these always confuse me. I have a huge distaste for machismo and bro-attitude in games, and there's very few moments in Halo that I perceive as such.

There's nothing confusing about it if you have a memory that goes back further than 2007. Halo was the original console game dudebros flocked to before COD 4. It was the game all the non gamer bros at schools were talking about.
 
Halo 4 is a re-imagining by a new studio made up of vets from many big name developers. The story looks to be much deeper than previous games and the game itself has gone through a very nice visual overhaul. Spartan Ops adds weeks of co-op content, and the multiplayer is more accessible than ever. That's the pitch.

For me, the emphasis on a deeper story that touches on things from the greater fiction is what I am most excited for. I always felt the past games' stories were a bit shallow on universe fiction.
 
Yeah I'm done with Halo. I beat the reach campaign once and played like 2 games online and then never touched the game again.

Beyond that, I'll play a game like Deus Ex, Portal or Dishonored but I'm pretty much done with shooters in general.
 
Really? Shit. One of the things I liked about Reach was that it felt like it was trying to be a leaner, more balanced game where all the unlocks were purely cosmetic. Y'know, you could just sit down and play the game without having to worry about progression.

Yes, but the unlocks come pretty quickly and your loadout is often limited by the gametype. It's mostly so you can choose your armor ability and what kind of rifle you prefer to use. Prefer a DMR over a battle rifle? Now you can always have your DMR.

Also, having random ordnance drops rather than set weapon placements means every game on a certain level doesn't boil down to "find sword, hide in sword room". It forces people not to rely on the same old cheap but proven tactics.
 
These kinds of "I don't like Halo" threads should not be allowed. For some reason, Halo is pretty much the only game in the industry that people are allowed to trash talk and I don't know why.

You are either a Halo fan or you're not. Its not the responsibility of others to convince you why you should like something. If Halo is not for you, move on to something else. If you don't understand why people like it, odds are you never will and its not for you.
Please tell me you're joking.
 
Please tell me you're joking.

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I love Halo 1-3 but everything since then has been a big disappointment.

The multiplayer maps have been piss poor, so I'll wait until after launch to gauge opinion about the maps before I buy.

Also jet packs are shit and bubble shields rock.
 
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