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[DieH@rd]

http://www.vg247.com/2012/11/12/direct-x-11-1-is-windows-8-exclusive-no-plans-to-retrofit/

 

[markot]

god >_<

 

[Pie and Beans]

Keeping making me hate you and Windows 8 more, Microsoft. Its really healthy for your eco-system and my renewed business.

 

[brain_stew]

So where's the technical justification? Ditching XP support with DX10 made perfect sense because of the radically new driver model and the need to cut more than a decade worth of legacy code.

But for a .1 release like this? I'd be happy to hear it and if its q valid justification, then fine, but I will remain sceptical until then.

 

[Tacitus_]

It's not like most devs target anything above DX9.

 

[Sapphire Dreams]

They'll give up and release it for windows 7, they always do this.

 

[Tailzo]

I still work as an IT contractor for companies that are still on XP. Many of them plan to migrate very soon.

Windows 8 is not going to be choice of OS.

It seems like MS is marketing Windows 8 to the Apple crowd, they love crap like this. So it might work.

Just curious, do most of them choose windows server 2012 or windows 7 then? Or do you mean jumping to OSx or Linux?

 

[jimi_dini]

Hopefully only until 11.2

Windows 9 exclusive

 

[Drkirby]

Well, at least Windows 7 is still good.

 

[BlackJace]

So does this mean DX11 stuff will be exclusive to the next XBOX?

 

[nickcv]

They'll give up and release it for windows 7, they always do this.

they'll give it a try first... if they see that enough people moved on we won't ever see any future version of DirectX for 7

 

[Why would you do that?]

It sucks how after DirectX 9 for Win 98, ME, 2000, and XP, they decided to make all future DirectXes exclusive to the next version of Windows. I was hoping they'd stop doing that, all the while knowing they wouldn't.

Hopefully they'll change their mind and release it on Win7.

 

[LamerDeluxe]

Still using XP and not planning on updating any time soon.

 

[Ban Puncher]

 

[nickcv]

I'm waiting for someone to defend this. Where are Pachter and Doritohead when you need them ?

you'd really have to twist it to defend this, but i agree, it would be fun to watch =P

 

[EatChildren]

So does this mean DX11 stuff will be exclusive to the next XBOX?

The DirectX API is licensed by Microsoft, and DirectX variations will be exclusive to the Xbox 720, just as they were the Xbox 360, and the original Xbox. Both the Wii U and PlayStation 3 will be capable of DirectX-equivalent graphics rendering, in varying degrees, using a different API. Just as with the Wii, GCN, PS2, and PS3.

 

[XaosWolf]

Can't Microsoft just leave PC gaming alone?

IT IS A HUMA-Oh wait... Carry on I guess.

More on topic: Not surprised at all after the last time they pulled this. Plenty of people must have called this as soon as they heard about Windows 8. =/

 

[drkOne]

Still using XP and not planning on updating any time soon.

How do you like your 3.5GB of RAM?

 

[vazel]

Why are people fretting? It's not like we won't be able to run games on Win7 anymore. Most games are still dx9 on Win7 because of GPU compatibility reasons. Same thing will happen with Win8 with regards to dx10/11 GPUs.

 

[eot]

GJ Microsoft, because that's totally going to win over all the sceptic developers

 

[Des0lar]

Still not getting Win8 Microsoft. Will wait for backlash, broken promises, tears and redemption once Windows9 rolls around.

The Vista cycle.

 

[BlackJace]

The DirectX API is licensed by Microsoft, and DirectX variations will be exclusive to the Xbox 720, just as they were the Xbox 360, and the original Xbox. Both the Wii U and PlayStation 3 will be capable of DirectX-equivalent graphics rendering, in varying degrees, using a different API. Just as with the Wii, GCN, PS2, and PS3.

Oh okay thanks.

 

[Salsa]

I wonder if Just Cause will get me to update like last time

 

[DieH@rd]

Why are people fretting? It's not like we won't be able to run games on Win7 anymore. Most games are still dx9 on Win7 because of GPU compatibility reasons. Same thing will happen with Win8 with regards to dx10/11 GPUs.

Most games are DX9 because of console multiplatform engines [mostly UE3].

 

[nickcv]

honestly do you guys think many devs will actually support this?

i mean we had a lot of devs already stating how much they hate W8...

 

[Grayman]

Open GL resurgence on windows? Really only 2 middleware companies need to do work there.

 

[vazel]

Most games are DX9 because of console multiplatform engines [mostly UE3].

And also because developers don't want to lock out the number of people that are still rocking an older GPU or OS. Same thing will happen with Win8. Those of us using Win7 and dx11 GPUs will be fine. There is nothing to worry about.

 

[sTeLioSco]

vista

 

[Diffense]

People never seem to learn that it's a bad idea to get locked into Microsoft technologies.

 

[SMT]

Haha.

Fuck you, Microsoft.

Because that worked really fucking well for DX10 Vista.

My sentiments exactly.

I feel like there should be an OS to overtake the gaming reigns from Microcanofworms.

Again, I wish you ill Microcrap.

 

[Raonak]

Somehow I think they try to make every second OS look bad so that the others shine in comparison.

that.... is actually genius.

 

[Bomber Bob]

Still not getting Win8 Microsoft. Will wait for backlash, broken promises, tears and redemption once Windows9 rolls around.

Don't expect too much tho. This time nobody (except gamers) give 2 f*uck about desktop pcs & windows. It's all about smartphones end tablet nowadays

 

[6.8]

master race indeed

 

[Durante]

Why are people fretting?

I'm "fretting" because this is the first step on a long road towards the planned obsolescence of Windows 7. Which in turn paves the way for the planned obsolescence of the traditional Windows desktop for consumer products. Which finally may spell the end for open mainstream computing as we know it.

And worst, there are people that seem to relish this idea.

 

[Kouriozan]

and it begins

As expected, gotta sell that OS.

 

[Alex Connolly]

Shattered Horizon sequel confirmed!

 

[TheD]

Windows 8 is less Vista and more IBM Personal System/2.

 

[BearPawB]

I've already upgraded.
I like windows 8...never understood the bitching.

 

[SapientWolf]

I'm "fretting" because this is the first step on a long road towards the planned obsolescence of Windows 7. Which in turn paves the way for the planned obsolescence of the traditional Windows desktop for consumer products. Which finally may spell the end for open mainstream computing as we know it.

MS is way too entrenched in business software to allow that to happen. Corporations would throw a huge fit if MS stopped supporting the OSs they were using and tried to lock down the only supported MS OS available.

I think W9 will be a more traditional OS release with DX12 and everyone is going to try to forget W8 ever existed.

 

[vazel]

I'm "fretting" because this is the first step on a long road towards the planned obsolescence of Windows 7. Which in turn paves the way for the planned obsolescence of the traditional Windows desktop for consumer products. Which finally may spell the end for open mainstream computing as we know it.

And worst, there are people that seem to relish this idea.

Woah, since when did a shitty UI and an app store no one will use turn into Microsoft wanting to close the PC platform. I'm going to have to catch up on the latest Win8 news to see for myself if there's any truth to that.

 

[milkybar1983]

I like Windows 8

 

[Durante]

MS is way too entrenched in business software to allow that to happen. Corporations would throw a huge fit if MS stopped supporting the OSs they were using and tried to lock down the only supported MS OS available.

I think W9 will be a more traditional OS release with DX12 and everyone is going to try to forget W8 ever existed.

Did you skip the "for consumer products" part of my post? Of course the enterprise edition will have desktop support for decades. But it will be there simply for "legacy" applications, and desktop applications will only get limited/no access to newly introduced OS features.

 

[freddy]

Hopefully by the time this has any meaningful impact it won't be a problem.

 

[Drazgul]

 

[def sim]

I've already upgraded.
I like windows 8...never understood the bitching.

The actual OS is fine. People are taking issue with what the store could possibly represent.

 

[Haunted]

Most games are DX9 because of console multiplatform engines [mostly UE3].

So then the question becomes this: do Orbis/Durango support DX11.1? Or just DX11?

 

[Lostconfused]

I think W9 will be a more traditional OS release with DX12 and everyone is going to try to forget W8 ever existed.

We can only hope it plays out exactly like Vista.

 

[Metal Gear?!]

The update will allow stereoscopic 3D to be viewed with compatible glasses, among other features. here’s a full update list:

Shader tracing and compiler enhancements
Direct3D device sharing
Check support of new Direct3D 11.1 features and formats
Use HLSL minimum precision
Specify user clip planes in HLSL on feature level 9 and higher
Create larger constant buffers than a shader can access
Use logical operations in a render target
Force the sample count to create a rasterizer state
Process video resources with shaders
Extended support for shared Texture2D resources
Change subresources with new copy options
Discard resources and resource views
Support a larger number of UAVs
Bind a subrange of a constant buffer to a shader
Retrieve the subrange of a constant buffer that is bound to a shader
Clear all or part of a resource view
Map SRVs of dynamic buffers with NO_OVERWRITE
Use UAVs at every pipeline stage
Extended support for WARP devices
Use Direct3D in Session 0 processes

So ummmm is any of that actually worth anything? Will any games use those features given the next generation of consoles won't have them?

 

[subversus]

yeah, at DX12 we'll have closed down Windows. Microsoft can kiss my ass. I have 200+ not completed games on Win7 (and 8 since it supports desktop as legacy feature, like Win 3.1 supported MS-DOS).

 

[hodgy100]

oh no this has never happened before :O

and my god! a company locking out a feature for their newest software how dare they!

The windows 8 bashing is getting boring.