More like its found in every possible incarnation of life.
Has anyone here tried DMT or Ayahuasca?
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More like its found in every possible incarnation of life.
Don't do this, nobody likes that guy who tells people how to live their life.
I had an ex who was really into psychedelics, and DMT was far and away her favorite. She said it was by far the most intense, most interesting, and most eye opening of all the drugs she had ever taken.
Buddha Beam
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Pretty much the same for me.
It's not considered smart to do DMT alone, correct?
on the contrary, you wont want to be around people, Joe Rogan is right about that
Half and half
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I only recommend he/she reevaluate things. I haven't told anyone how to live their life.
you know I distinctly remember two things about the couple times I tried it, beyond pretty much forgetting everything else:
1) having my eyes open or closed didnt make any difference in what I was seeing whatsoever
2) I saw a cat on the window of my room loose all of its skin, as if it was melting, and the background to this imagery turned completely purple, like a green screen but purple. Weirdest thing about it is that I had this weird sense of deja-vu during this imagery and after that I had a very similar situation with a cat losing its skin once when I was doing LSD.
cats losing skin all around me man, someday i'll find out what this all means.
edit: in a way ive always felt that when im dying, I will see this same cat and hear this strange, almost backwards-voices-like noise that I hear everytime he appears, and never know the truth about it. Me being convinced that this will happen on the moment of my death pretty much confirms that it will indeed happen, if that makes any sense.
I really miss psychodelic drugs man, but I honestly I had this phase when I thought I had woken up to another reality and felt like I had become dettached from the one we all live in and this lasted like a month. I couldnt sleep and I spent all day crying in bed. I felt like I couldnt feel emotions and my life was like a movie that I was just watching, without being able to participate in it or change anything in any way. It was harsh, my girlfriend at the time became an emotional mess because she couldnt understand what was happening to me and im really scared of going through that again. A real shame. Im jealous of everyone who never had a bad trip.
This thing/condition actually has a name, but I dont want to look it up ever again because im scared of reliving the memories too much and falling into it again. It's the kind of thing you just have to forget about it ever happened in order to outlive it. Read stuff online of people who lived like that for years.
I never thought drugs could take a hold of my brain and make me lose my ego and fuck me up like that, but I went overboard. This post slowly turned into a real downer, but yeah, heads up.
1) having my eyes open or closed didnt make any difference in what I was seeing whatsoever
2) I saw a cat on the window of my room loose all of its skin, as if it was melting, and the background to this imagery turned completely purple, like a green screen but purple. Weirdest thing about it is that I had this weird sense of deja-vu during this imagery and after that I had a very similar situation with a cat losing its skin once when I was doing LSD.
cats losing skin all around me man, someday i'll find out what this all means.
edit: in a way ive always felt that when im dying, I will see this same cat and hear this strange, almost backwards-voices-like noise that I hear everytime he appears, and never know the truth about it. Me being convinced that this will happen on the moment of my death pretty much confirms that it will indeed happen, if that makes any sense.
I really miss psychodelic drugs man, but I honestly I had this phase when I thought I had woken up to another reality and felt like I had become dettached from the one we all live in and this lasted like a month. I couldnt sleep and I spent all day crying in bed. I felt like I couldnt feel emotions and my life was like a movie that I was just watching, without being able to participate in it or change anything in any way. It was harsh, my girlfriend at the time became an emotional mess because she couldnt understand what was happening to me and im really scared of going through that again. A real shame. Im jealous of everyone who never had a bad trip.
This thing/condition actually has a name, but I dont want to look it up ever again because im scared of reliving the memories too much and falling into it again. It's the kind of thing you just have to forget about it ever happened in order to outlive it. Read stuff online of people who lived like that for years.
I never thought drugs could take a hold of my brain and make me lose my ego and fuck me up like that, but I went overboard. This post slowly turned into a real downer, but yeah, heads up.
shadowsdarknes
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Nah bro that's the wrong way to view LSD. It's therapeutic if you know how to take it properly.
DMT is on my bucket list. Ever since I heard Rogan's experience a few years ago I have been dying to take that ride. However, where the fuck do you find it?
I think something like that happened to me. I compared it to being a fish in a fish bowl. You can see everything and everyone in the room but you're in your own tank with invisible walls and can't get out. I think that feeling probably lasted a few months, maybe years, but it seems to be gone now.
Finding out that other people had gone through a very similar experience is honestly part of what got me out of it. Realizing that it was a lie, something my brain was lying me about and how other people outlived the same tricks. I thought it was unique to me and that thought was the scariest part about it. Thought I was alone in finding out something no one else ever experienced before.
DMT sounds amazing, I've tripped off shrooms multiple times in the past and did 2CI/2CE fairly recently. I usually feel drastic emotional and mental changes with light hallucinations.
Where are these seeds/powders typically sold?
Where are these seeds/powders typically sold?
Raonak
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Yeah, people just aren't in the right mindspace to actually understand what they're seeing. It's not something that transcends reality. You didn't see the entire universe fold up to form a 2D plane. It was literally all in your head.
I think before/after people have a really mindblowing trip, they should read a little about the human brain, and understand that everything you're seeing and feeling is actually sensations caused by part of the brain. And the chemicals youre smoking are fucking your brain up. they're making it go haywire. causing memories to feel detached. and making you see things. and have flashbacks.
I remember having that weird feeling after doing salvia for the first time. I did it again, and had such a clear trip with no weird feelings afterwards.
Still need to try out DMT one day...
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my fiance is peruvian and if you want to do it properly you need to go with the jungle shaman dude an prepare for 7 days in advance with a diet. we wanted to do it and still might, but it's pretty much going to affect 8 days of your vacation. We decided we didn't have that kind of time to dedicate to it.
We'd kind of like to do it before getting married over there, but eh, it's not gonna work out.
We'd kind of like to do it before getting married over there, but eh, it's not gonna work out.
To those who have had bad trips, we're ALWAYS in the fish bowl. I haven't taken dmt but its something I've begun to realize in my spiritual journey and its funny because its exactly how I describe it to myself. A fishbowl. But it doesn't make me sad at all because its just myself realizing that everything around you really isn't. We're here but at the same time we're everywhere. It's just that during this life we spend here in this body, you are in this world.
I'll look up at the sky sometimes and think to myself that this is what it must feel like being in a fish tank and peering up at the surface. There's so much constantly going on around us that we can't see because It's all underneath what we are allowed to see in this form. I hope to try dmt one day but I have a feeling I'd be exploring up and out of the fishbowl because I already know it exists.
I'll look up at the sky sometimes and think to myself that this is what it must feel like being in a fish tank and peering up at the surface. There's so much constantly going on around us that we can't see because It's all underneath what we are allowed to see in this form. I hope to try dmt one day but I have a feeling I'd be exploring up and out of the fishbowl because I already know it exists.
this reads like evangelion
Yeah this is the condition I meant as the thing I didnt wanna look into again for fear of falling into it again. Name alone already spins my stomach a bit. The only "cure" is to forget that its happening to you cause once you start seeing life like that it never really goes away.. Kinda like the fishbowl thing above
ErasureAcer
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Watched this one this afternoon. Wish their experiences were explored more...as in the DMT spirit molecule vid. So yeah...I didn't really get anything out of the vid.
Ummm, so he said he didn't even want to look up the term, and then you find it and tell him to look it up? Really?
I'm very, very interested in the logic behind this post. It's blowing my mind right now.
ErasureAcer
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http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/09/14...taking-hallucinogenic-drug-ayahuasca-in-peru/
The Shimbre place from the Neoism documentary I linked to had a death of an American at their resort a few months ago. The Shaman in the video just buried the body instead of doing something reasonable like contacting the authorities.
The Shimbre place from the Neoism documentary I linked to had a death of an American at their resort a few months ago. The Shaman in the video just buried the body instead of doing something reasonable like contacting the authorities.
SystemShock2
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I've smoked DMT a couple times a few years ago. Shit is so incredibly powerful. I haven't thought about it recently because I'm out of my psych phase, though I still trip on occasion. It's about time I try it again. It's definitely like seeing on another plane of existence. I recommend it to those that are experienced with themselves and psychedelics. You don't really learn much in terms of yourself or in terms of thoughts, but you learn a shitload just by experiencing what's out there.
Oh man, I apologize. After you're description, I immediately looked it up before reading the rest of your post.
â Narayan
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I've tried the latter before. No breakthrough due to vomiting a majority of the brew, but I want to try it again soon. There are some methods that allow you to extract the tannins which produce the vomiting effect. Think I'll give one of those a shot. (Pun intended.)
Even though I vomited the first time around, I still had some mild visuals that weren't too different from what I've seen on LSD, which I experienced about a year after I tried Ayahuasca.
Even though I vomited the first time around, I still had some mild visuals that weren't too different from what I've seen on LSD, which I experienced about a year after I tried Ayahuasca.
ErasureAcer
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Holy shit. That first video was well made and insightful in only 25 minutes. Thanks. Time to watch the other ones.
-Stranger-
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How exactly do people get their hands on DMT?
It seems to be an incredibly rare substance.
It seems to be an incredibly rare substance.
Whoa, just looked this up. Almost exactly describes what I've been feeling over the last few months, no idea what would have brought this on though. It's a little depressing...
BlueTsunami
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Its such an easy an easing.thing to cook too but I won't go there. You've gotta know somebody that knows somebody around here.
and DMT is very dosage dependant. Too little and you won't blast off. Hit the right amount and your not in Kansas anymore etc. The differences are huge.
Mushrooms and DMT. the only things I will try.
DMT is all that's left.
Yeah, I felt that disconnect the day after mushrooms. Like I had experienced reality and I had been pulled back to a shadow of it.
DMT is all that's left.
Yeah, I felt that disconnect the day after mushrooms. Like I had experienced reality and I had been pulled back to a shadow of it.
i don't understand why you'd feel bad knowing that there is separation between the physical world and what runs behind it. its a blessing. to know that beyond this life you continue, you can come back, you can be energy and all see all or be all. knowing that eternity exists should only make you appreciate how precious our time is here in this lifetime.
I think this thread has shown that a lot of people put way too much importance into what they see/feel when on psychedelics. You can have different personal interpretations of what the experience means to you, but it's not the truth. It's your brain fucking up because it's on weird chemicals it's not used to. If you take DMT and think you see god or think you see the plan for the life/the universe or whatever...that's just your conscious mind trying to interpret a short circuit. Can this be useful? Yeah, of course it can be useful, but don't misinterpret it's usefulness as some sort of absolute truth.
Wolfe
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Honestly this viewpoint is just as bad as the one you are describing, the universe is a far more complex place than we give it credit most of the time and who's to say that you can't tap into other planes or forms of existence through means such as these. Just because I only see with my eyes in the visible spectrum of light doesn't mean that there are other forms of light beyond my vision (for example).
I have never tried DMT and I'm not saying you are wrong, just that we definitely do not understand this shit very well yet regardless of how we think we might and to say such statements only comes off as close minded to me.
Although you're viewpoint is likely correct in my opinion, I'm definitely open to other possibilities.
Who's to say that my dick isn't made of cheese mixed with a homeless guys chewed up and spit out cheerios mush? Maybe the aliens that communicate are from Cheerios land, and if I take the wicked DMT waterslide down into the earth into their lair made over penis icicles, maybe I can attain the fabled "purple dolphin glow" as my personal aura, changing my life forever and making me jesus christ.
Or I can just realize that the drug messes with parts of my brain that have to do with my senses.
Verbal Intercourse
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This is too true. Don't think it's enlightenment just because you've altered your mind state. And as a warning people can get stuck on false "epiphanies" even after a trip is over. This happened to me with a bad trip. I thought I gained insight, but all the trip did was intensify the distorted thoughts of my depression. These thoughts were very negative in nature, causing great distress, but as I got healthier it became easier to reject the inaccurate perspective. In a way I gained a greater insight on what constitutes distorted thinking patterns and got better at assessing my thoughts critically. But all that came about as I sought therapy and medication to combat preexisting depression and anxiety (that LSD accelerated greatly).
As an artist, I'm really curious about how this stuff will effect me. I tried weed once, long ago, and it was an interesting event. Never did anything prior to that, but then went all the way and had like, 3 brownies, some of the leftover batter (before I knew it had weed in it), and a few tokes of a joint. Took a few hours before I felt anything, but nothing visual. Mostly tactile responses, time-related and memory processing malfunctions. Absurdly paranoid when I had to teach a dance class the next day.
I'm tempted to see what hallucinogenics would do to me because I have super vivid dreams, but simultaneously afraid of exactly what might manifest that I'd interpret as reality.
I'm tempted to see what hallucinogenics would do to me because I have super vivid dreams, but simultaneously afraid of exactly what might manifest that I'd interpret as reality.
Death Dealer
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I think the so called clockwork elves, if they exist, could be extra-dimensional or just plain extraterrestrial intelligences. I 've never tried DMT. I read a book about it called DMT the spirit molecule. It's released by your brain when you die.
Bzzz WRONG! if it were the brain fucking up then why would 2 people on it at the same time together see the exact same things? It's absolutely impossible for the 2 to have the exact same thoughts and feelings racing thru the "mind". I always say this and I'll say it here too. Science does not apply to the spiritual world.
Just a PSA...
If you're curious about psychedelic drugs make sure that when you take them you don't have any doubt in your mind going in. Like, don't be hoping that you won't have a bad trip or whatever. Just go in planning to have a great time. Be with good friends that you trust won't fuck with you too much. If you're apprehensive I just wouldn't take em. And make sure you have the time to commit, this goes especially for ones that last long.. like shrooms.
If you're curious about psychedelic drugs make sure that when you take them you don't have any doubt in your mind going in. Like, don't be hoping that you won't have a bad trip or whatever. Just go in planning to have a great time. Be with good friends that you trust won't fuck with you too much. If you're apprehensive I just wouldn't take em. And make sure you have the time to commit, this goes especially for ones that last long.. like shrooms.
So what you're saying is that if 2 people claim to see/feel the exact same thing, it must be true? Amazing fucking logic there.
BTW, you aren't allowed to call me "wrong: or contradict anything that I say, because when I was wacked out on acid a god that was made out of electricity running through ethernet cables told me that your "scientific" ideas like right and wrong are incorrect. He told me that one day on this website you'd try to debate me. Please stop trying to apply your ideas of right and wrong to the spirit world bro.
Yeah, perhaps you're right, but DMT and Mushrooms only release the dopamine in your brain so it's just like a very vivid dream, but being conscious. The dolphin dick analysis is kind of a terrible example because that isn't what these experiences are like. Sure, you could try and argue the whole gray alien conspiracy that people who claim to be abducted tell stories about, but prior to taking mushrooms I had heard and read nothing about the spiritual significance. Yet, here we have DMT and high doses of Mushrooms giving people an almost universal (albeit anecdotal at this time) account of spiritual enlightenment. Perhaps it says more about the root of dreams, but considering it is also the chemical in our brain released in high doses at death (and birth?) it would also give evidence to the ground work for most religious enlightenment as well.
I think you have a valid point, but I also think it is unfair to write-off these substances when they only trigger natural chemicals in the body as opposed to the drugs that actually do "short-circuit" your brain.
its okay bra
Poimandres
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Personally, I think the "truth" of spiritual experiences (including those induced by psychoactive substances) might lie somewhere between the two extreme interpretations.
I don't think the experiences are necessarily those of a tangible objective reality (like people who claim contact with entities and insist they physically exist), or purely illusory mental constructs (like people who claim it's purely crossed wires in the brain).
I think there are elements of both at play. Many people do report very similar experiences, not in broad strokes but in oddly specific details. This supports the idea that there is some sort of reality at play. Then again, experiments with stimulating areas of the brain have shown that it's possible to reliably reproduce alleged "spiritual" experiences through brain stimulation alone.
I don't think there's much point getting hung up on the objective reality of your experiences though. Even if an experience is entirely illusory it can have very direct and lasting effects on your experience of reality. Our entire interpretation of the world has a huge subjective element in any case, so "reality" is blurry at the best of times!
On topic: DMT is pretty remarkable and something I'd highly recommend most people try at least once. For reference, to me it feels a lot like mushrooms. I haven't tried Ayahuasca, but my most impactful (and enjoyable) psychedelic experiences have been with Mescalin.
Lol what logic is needed? 2 people together see a red car right in front of them its a red car. 2 people on dmt together both see Shiva and its the brain fucking with you cuz science. Lol wtf? I mean I could understand 2 different visions or maybe even the 2 seeing entirely different beings and that could be seen as the brain doing something funny but there have been people experiencing the exact same "vision" at the same time.
Why can't people just admit to being afraid of the unknown instead of writing the stuff off completely? Even if you didn't believe in anything wouldn't life be more enjoyable being more open to possibilities?
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