Edge: PS4 to launch in Europe in early 2014, US/JP 2013, more powerful than next Xbox
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StreetDisciple
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I am curious on media playback capabilities also. Currently there are certain files and file sizes I cant play natively unless I use the media server.
Don't burn me at the stake GAF, but I was hoping we'd get a same size DS controller, that was more ergonomic with a nice little touchscreen. Not a touch pad.
But I guess they have to draw the line somewhere. Gotta make this bitch affordable.
I think I'm still day 1. Will see if they shock the world come 02/20.
But I guess they have to draw the line somewhere. Gotta make this bitch affordable.
I think I'm still day 1. Will see if they shock the world come 02/20.
zomgbbqftw
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Which is why I think this rumour is BS. Sony should realise that it is better to launch WW and have a few shortages than give MS a clear run with next gen entries of the big franchises. Unless Sony are absolutely certain that either there aren't going to be next gen COD/FIFA releases until 2014 and it will be MS first party only then they have to release WW in Nov/Dec. Even if they launch on the 18th December in Europe with 1m units it would be fine as people will wait a few weeks as long as they can get it before Xmas.
If they want to press their advantage of free online they need to make sure there is no opportunity for MS to build a base of players who "want to play with their friends" on XBL. Free PSN will work if they get first.
Not only that, 360 had the worst hardware quality of all consoles ever released and the EU is more quality minded than the US which is why it never caught on during the 17 month headstart. RROD really destroyed the Xbox reputation in Europe. MS won't make the same mistake again, that's for sure.
No one else answered, so here I go.
Stacked RAM comes as how it sounds. Instead of laying the chips side by side on the PCB (the board) the chips are stacked on top of one another. Because of this, the connections are basically going through each other creating "instant" connections, thus increasing the bandwidth (the amount of data that can be sent within a period of time).
See pic.
GDDR5... the G simply means graphics. (Graphics Double Data Rate, version 5).
GDDR5 has existed for years. It's super fast, but super hot. The only companies that really use it are GPU manufacturers, and frankly not enough of those sell to justify the manufacturing costs for some companies. That's why it's "dying out."
DDR4 is the next iteration of DDR3, which has also been out for years. DDR4 is supposed to be more efficient. Requiring less power, resulting in less heat. It's also relatively "slow." First iterations will be slower than current DDR3 speeds, but will be able to achieve higher speeds (and lower costs) as time goes by.
Thank you, it clearer now. I was just confused because 5 > 4 .
GarthVaderUK
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Tens of millions of console sales separated the PS2 and Xbox in Europe. While the PS3 has been more successful than the 360 overall in Europe, there has still been a big shift in marketshare. Giving Microsoft opportunities to grow their marketshare further in Europe next gen could be bad for Sony.
The situation seems quite different, the PS3 had a significantly more powerful CPU with Cell (which required a lot of learning to master) but at the same time the GPU is weaker, the memory pool is split and the OS footprint has been bigger for a long time.
This time PS4 is supposed to have a more straightforward architecture while also counting on more compute units and a much higher bandwidth. Developers on the next Xbox will have to take advantage of the embedded ram in fancy ways just to step aside the DDR3 limitations and they'll have to take advantage of different modules to mask the disadvantages in pure raw power. That is of course if the leakes specs are true.
Zeouterlimits
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Likely 2014, at likely a dick move European price?
Frick sake Sony, I want to like you.
Frick sake Sony, I want to like you.
Won't happen. 6GB would require a bigger memory controller and thus a completely redesigned chip.
GT6 has been in development since 2010.
Sony may have left our thoughts, but they never left our hearts.
MikeE21286
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No.
It's awesome and if MS doesn't have it on their system (or some similarly simple/easy way to do this) it'll be a big differentiatior for Sony
True. But at least you now know just to ask everyone for money.
Infamous 2
Red Dead Redemption
Dat PS3 exclusive Draw Distance.
It's the developer talent more than the hardware.
Agent Ironside
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I don't see how. Overall Sony 1st party games have looked better than MS's. And during the last E3's, everything is Kinect. I see two rights.
It will likely coincide with the EU launch.
People said the same thing for months about 8GB of DDR3 for both the HD twins and Durango has it.
Let's wait and see.
The only thing I believe for sure is that if they really add more RAM it won't be DDR3.
Adding a different type of RAM is not the same as adding more of the same type of RAM. It would require more work and Sony doesn't want to be late to the party.
You do realise that the 360 sold better than the PS3 in the UK?
Death Dealer
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Whoa 8GB would be incredible. Seem hard to imagine they'll do it.
No BC, maybe psn titles if were are lucky.
Liquidsnake
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They gave me everything I wanted this gen, their online was top notch. Their system updates phenomenal (and it doesn't take 2 hours)
The exclusives have been great, and then games like Forza 4 pushing past my tried and tested GT series. Gears, Halo, COD always being better on the 360............its been an amazing run for me with the 360.
I will say this I have owned 7-8 360 this entire gen.
My launch PS3 still works.
Sigh..my PS3 is dying. Well, i will find out if I need to get another PS3 in 20th.
There is no such thing as PSN titles. There are PS3 games, and they can release at retail, on PSN or on both. They BOTH need the same hardware. If the PS4 is able to play any of the digital content you own, then it should also be able to play the retail content.
Which would also serve for remote playing all ps4 games to vita, and possibly tablets too
AuthenticM
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The "Share Button" has me really excited. This is the kind of feature I want my next-gen consoles to have. It's the fucking future ! 
THERE IS NO WAY SONY IS UNVEILING BEFORE MICROSOFT.
nelsonroyale
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Infamous 2 has better effects, character animation, and probably textures than RDR though. It is a very good looking game considering it is open world.
NoLootBoxDev
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I will pre-order as soon its on amazon, can wait for the ps4
Digital-Hero
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Its not getting 8GB of ram, read the article again.
If it is recorded to HDD then doesn't that slow down HDD reading when playing games?
Agent Ironside
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I guess it depends on our wants. I don't really game online so that part doesn't concern me that much. I'm judging based entirely on single player 1st party games. That's where I feel Sony came through more so than MS. I absolutely love the Forza series though. Alan Wake was interesting as well. Everything else, not so much.
As for the future...
I hope you really like Kinect : )
Zeouterlimits
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Because this isn't the stone age, at that price they could get their act together and not treat us as second class citizens.
It's OK. I'm sure they did it out of consideration for the state of economies around Europe - we need the extra time to save.
As someone who played both... It actually didn't. Plus it had worse IQ.
The weather effects and day night cycle in RDR is currently unrivaled.
Outside UK 360 is still behind PS3 in popularity and even in UK it's nowhere near the domination normally touted. The 360 dominates one territory only and that's the US - UK it for sure sells more but the ratio split is much closer and of course that's with PS3 launching much later.
I reckon no sensible publisher at this point would risk upsetting the apple-cart backing MS in Europe - the risk they'd be handing off millions of sales would be too high. Now for sure MS is in a better position in Europe than before, but it's not that much better, and in fact their issue isn't the console but the fact Live is so gimped in so much of Europe vs PSN. That alone I suspect will prevent MS gaining much additional ground unless they annouce huge Live improvements as well.
At present I'd say the evidence on form is that it won't overly hurt Sony to launch after MS in Europe.
Now would it be better to launch same time? Sure. Will they lose some customers launching later? Sure. But there is very little actual evidence or indication it'll cost them much.
I don't really get why they always delay Europe though - would be interested to know why (assuming there is a known why).
CoffeeJanitor
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Sounds awesome...
The infamous 599$ will make a comeback!
For Europe yep, bit silly when their have marketshare dominance (with the exception of UK, but they could gain ground). Maybe the financial burden is too much for a simultaneous releas.e