Kotaku: Next Xbox will require online connection to start games

Wario64 said:
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I think that proves that Kotaku rumour is a bust. In Aegeis we trust. MS won't enforce something like this.

And in reality, most have internet (remember that 22 million figure for XBL gold membership base?).

This will curb piracy.
 
I don't think "always on" will affect sales as much as some think it will. The average consumer won't even realize the requirement until it's a problem. By then they can raise a stink, but they've already forked over their money and it's unlikely that they will be within the return policy period.
 
I gotta say, for being on a Navy ship currently on deployment with no way to hook an Xbox up to the internet the damn things are still pretty popular onboard, there's dozens of them spread across workcenters and shops and berthings. People still love to play local multiplayer Call of Duty or Gears of War. I guess that'll no longer be possible next gen, thanks for alienating entire sectors of your fanbase Microsoft.
 
I'm glad I won't be supporting this practice. It's by far one of the worst things. And my connection is fine. All I know is any time I've had something where an internet connection was required, even if it only causes one bad experience it's enough to piss anyone enough to the point where you'll feel mad questionable for even supporting it to begin with.

But if history has been any indication, you'll get a lot more bad experiences than one despite what you may think about your internet connections. These things always backfire.
 
i-Lo said:
I think that proves that Kotaku rumour is a bust. In Aegeis we trust. MS won't enforce something like this.

And in reality, most have internet (remember that 22 million figure for XBL gold membership base).

This will curb out piracy.
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Because Mr. Gies is literally the most reliable industry insider in the world, amirite?

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So it looks like the pendulum is going to swing back the other way. This generation with Nintendo on top has been a fairly ridiculous one.

Maybe if Sony can get on top, things might get back to a nicer/smarter place for the consumer...
 
The 'reasoning' part of the article was interesting:

Every person we've talked to about the always-online connection, internally and externally, has been incredulous. They predict a fiasco. They detect hubris in a Microsoft riding high off of the Xbox 360's incredible post-Kinect sales performance. But they also detect, as I have, an intensified interest in Microsoft's part to position the next Xbox as an entertainment device, to not emphasize games as significantly as they had with past Microsoft consoles. Add that to far shakier rumors of the next Xbox working as a cable box or DVR or some other TV-viewing enabler--something not a single source of mine could confirm--and you might wonder: if my cable box always has to be connected, why not my next Xbox?
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Could MS really be thinking - 'f-ck the vocal minority, we can do this'?

I dunno, maybe they can. A lot of people might not notice or give it a second though. The 3 minute limit seems like it could cause this to surface for the consumer as a problem more than it should, though - but I guess they can slacken that requirement.
 
I mean if for some reason my internet is down, I can't play games at all?

Fuck that, if thats true then I will not buy it, simple as that.
 
If MS really goes with this stupid plan, I hope the public vote with their wallet against it. This is the kind of anti-consumer approach that I don't want the industry to become accustomed to.
 
I don't buy it, they won't eliminate so much of the market will they? I'm assuming it is a misunderstanding of the documentation at this point.


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I'm more worried they are behind schedule and will delay past the holidays.
 
If games are required to be installed on the hard drive and blu-ray streaming doesn't work, there's no other method that works. You must have a validity check or else people would just install games and resell immediately. It's gonna be required.
 
Now I have a few Sony capes that I have been known to pose in now and then, do not get me wrong but I also love my Kinect time with my gf and I do not hate the 360 at all and will definitely own the next system.
I can not honestly fathom MS really thinking that this is a good idea and IF...IF they did at one time, perhaps part of their delay in their reveal is retconning this and perhaps any type of used game gimmick out of the new system?
 
People love to complain.

This is so transparent to the end-user that I just don't care. I'd wager than 95% of the Xbox population logs into Live at the start of their session. This will force the other 5% to connect.

As far as concerns regarding a 3-minute timer, again -- end-users will never notice. The SimCity fiasco was due to EA servers crapping out. XBox Live has gone down for more than a few minutes only a few times in the last 10+ years. If MS ended up having bandwidth issues, dropping folks regularly and ruining their experience, then they would change the timers. Pretty straightforward here -- ensure a transparent protection that does not hurt the user experience for 99% of your customers.

This won't impact my play experience at all.
 
Oh wow, if MS really are stupid to think about doing this, I'm just remembering back to when PSN was down for over a week because of the security breach.

In that instance just about only Capcom's PSN games were unbootable, but if that happened to MS's new console it'd make the console as useful as a door stopper.
 
sh4mike said:
People love to complain.

This is so transparent to the end-user that I just don't care. I'd wager than 95% of the Xbox population logs into Live at the start of their session. This will force the other 5% to connect.

As far as concerns regarding a 3-minute timer, again -- end-users will never notice. The SimCity fiasco was due to EA servers crapping out. XBox Live has gone down for more than a
few minutes only a few times in the last 10+ years.

This won't impact my play experience at all.
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If this all comes to fruition and ends up like the rest of us expect it will, this post will live in infamy. Bravo.
 
Guess i stick with my PC then? Yes i do and if this is all true then microsoft shot them self in the foot and a good one also.
 
ExitPlanetDust said:
I don't think "always on" will affect sales as much as some think it will. The average consumer won't even realize the requirement until it's a problem. By then they can raise a stink, but they've already forked over their money and it's unlikely that they will be within the return policy period.
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What? If you are talking about launch (and I mean 2 weeks tops). Then maybe. The backlash would be too great in the long run if MS really designed this machine on the ignorance of its customers.
 
Good move Microsoft, welcome to the future etc.

I really enjoyed my 360, but times are changing, I guess. I´m out if the rumors are true.
 
Replicant said:
If MS really goes with this stupid plan, I hope the public vote with their wallet against it. This is the kind of anti-consumer approach that I don't want the industry to become accustomed to.
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Yeah, but what if the console itself offers enough amazement that the "always online" aspect is just a single negative bullet point?

If MS are really going through with this, there must be a catch, or compensation of some sort.
 
MS is based out of the US correct? (rhetorical question)
How can they not know how shitty our Oligopoly of internet providers are?
 
i-Lo said:
This will curb piracy.
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I honestly question how rampant piracy was this generation. Seems to me that the complexity of modding the PS3/360 have kept it down enough that the fear is pretty unwarranted.

Look at the SimCity mess, requiring a connection just to start a game is stupid beyond imagination.
 
Would they really alienate millions of potential customers?

I imagine a sizeable percentage of both Xbox 360 and PS3 consoles have never been connected to the internet.
 
enzo_gt said:
This is also pretty significant, and will be overlooked amongst the fury in this thread:
Some sources told us that they believed that the Durango development kit required an online connection so that Microsoft could keep tabs on them and update them with new, ever-evolving firmware. Others weren't sure.
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Perhaps a dev-kit only thing + devs being told different things to snuff out leaks? Sounds like a good way to keep people from leaking stuff from your actual runtime if you ask me.
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I was going to suggest this without even reading the article. If they can detect the IP and connections, they'd know who has one of the DevKits, and which one gets "leaked."
 
Considering this rumor is constantly popping up every other week, it has to be true, right ? If it is, I'll probably never buy another Xbox. There's no way I'm going to encourage this bullshit practice. The only way to send companies a message is with our money. If everybody keeps whining on the Internet but buy the thing regardless, then companies won't care. They'll have won.
 
pixlexic said:
I think this info is false. it really dose it make any logic sense from a marketing stand point.
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"People 'can't pirate' if you have your games always online!"-M$

There is the marketing standpoint. Ironically it pushes more people to pirate and has only proven to kill any interest people had in games that use it like SimCity and Diablo III.
 
Raptor said:
I mean if for some reason my internet is down, I can't play games at all?

Fuck that, if thats true then I will not buy it, simple as that.
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Exactly. At this point I couldn't give a shit about RAM or performance but the rumours of this, forced Kinect and anti-used bullshit coming true would ensure me never buying it. Even if one of them turns out to be true.
 
This sounds too dumb to be true, even for the 2013 games industry.

I don't mind a one-time online connection required for validation of software, but always-required is a no-buy from me.
 
devonraynor said:
people at MS also have people reading forums like this one. no way they are gonna push this when everyone goes ape shit already
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Forums are probably the last place to look for 'market research'. A vast majority of us do not represent the majority of the gaming public.

crinale said:
That's what I was wondering also.
In how many countries the robust internet connection (I mean to the point that doesn't trigger "network troubleshooter" or whatever) common thing?
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Acceptable loss. Maybe they assume the % without a stable online infrastructure do not contribute enough.

I personally think it's bullshit. That market has to be pretty sizable. Enough to warrant wanting to sell them something. But if they are going the 'services' route then what good is somebody without the internet?
 
I think it's true, but MS will make this attractive...somehow.

I mean at the moment it's all stick and no carrot. But when MS reveals its vision for the console I think people will come around to what they're offering.
 
Well if this does end up being true (and given how frequently it's popping up that seems likely) then I guess I just saved myself $400-500.
 
They won't have the balls to do that.

But the masses would buy the box anyway because it has the Haloes and the Gearses. I'm sure they don't care.
 
1-D_FTW said:
If games are required to be installed on the hard drive and blu-ray streaming doesn't work, there's no other method that works. You must have a validity check or else people would just install games and resell immediately. It's gonna be required.
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Um, I install all my 360 games to the hard drive.
 
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