Margaret Thatcher has died

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lol, Financial Times posted their pre-packaged obituary without updating the age.

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Ripe old age of 20. Not bad for a PM in the 1980s.
 
I'm sad to see that there is so little respect for the dead on my facebook news feed, I thought my friends were better than that.

RIP
 
BREAKING NEWS Downing Street says Lady Thatcher will be accorded the same status of funeral as the Queen Mother and Princess Diana, but will not lie in state, in accordance with her own wishes.

Leicester? - *high-five* (Braunstone ftw! :P)

I've just moved to Braunstone!
 
Was only as old as 8 when she was in office, so I don't have any real opinion on her legacy, my similarly aged friends on facebook are posting pretty hateful stuff right now, I guess they were political activists when they were children...
 
So scotland, Northern england and most certainly Wales will be celebrating. She did her level best to ruin us. She is utterly hated around those parts and we still have to live with the consequences of her policies.
 
RIP

Didn't agree with her policies, and I completely understand the hate that is held for her. Don't feel that now is quite the time to be dancing on her grave, but neither are the sea of platitudes which will be poured on her today - those expecting the BBC to have balance are mistaken, regardless of their political affiliation of their staffers, you just can be negative about someone who's just died.

Does she deserve a state funeral? Probably, her influence on the country, for better or worse (for worse in my opinion), will not be matched for a very long time.
 
Surely if people can be vocally happy about Bin Laden dying, we can also be vocally happy about Thatcher dying? She murdered innocents, destroyed our industries (directly impacting on my family), her government covered up the Hillsborough disaster, etc.

She was awful and I shall eat jelly and ice cream for tea tonight.
 
Just read about this and what happens? I get a text from a 'friend' regarding this stating 'Ding dong the witch is dead'. Fair enough not liking her or what she did but what about showing some respect or decency?

Did she show respect or decency towards those she ruined and killed?The victims of Pinochet's regime she supported?I don't think so.
 
Was only as old as 8 when she was in office, so I don't have any real opinion on her legacy, my similarly aged friends on facebook are posting pretty hateful stuff right now, I guess they were political activists when they were children...

You didn't need to be a political activist to hate Thatcher, her policies affected everyone and mostly for the worst, unless you were wealthy, there are many who are now political activists because of Thatcher.
 
Was only as old as 8 when she was in office, so I don't have any real opinion on her legacy, my similarly aged friends on facebook are posting pretty hateful stuff right now, I guess they were political activists when they were children...

Being 8 when she was in office doesn't mean you aren't allowed an opinion on her time in office. The consequences of her actions are still felt by families today.
 
RIP.

I understand not liking her politics/policies...I would understand if she'd just lost an election and you were happy about that. But it's not like she had any power in the last 20 years. Why celebrate her death ?
With parties on both sides of the house trying their hardest to emulate her rule and basically idealizing her - I'd say she still had plenty of power and influence.
 
You have to admire the leadership of this woman, BUT...

Her and Reagan set us in our current path to the shitter when it comes to the economy. I don't know much else about her politics.
 
Was only as old as 8 when she was in office, so I don't have any real opinion on her legacy, my similarly aged friends on facebook are posting pretty hateful stuff right now, I guess they were political activists when they were children...

or, you know, maybe they studied history and now have an opinion.
Not many people do it, I know.
 
So scotland, Northern england and most certainly Wales will be celebrating. She did her level best to ruin us. She is utterly hated around those parts and we still have to live with the consequences of her policies.


Striking unions did as much to destroy the north as thatcher did, plenty of blame all round there.
 
I was a kid when she was in power in the north east, i saw first hand what her policies did around here, they better not be a minute silence next sunday in the newcastle sunderland derby as that wont go well at all.
 
RIP

Didn't agree with her policies, and I completely understand the hate that is held for her. Don't feel that now is quite the time to be dancing on her grave, but neither are the sea of platitudes which will be poured on her today - those expecting the BBC to have balance are mistaken, regardless of their political affiliation of their staffers, you just can be negative about someone who's just died.

Does she deserve a state funeral? Probably, her influence on the country, for better or worse (for worse in my opinion), will not be matched for a very long time.

There's a difference between being negative and being balanced.
 
Hopefully she won't be deified in the same way that Reagan has been in the U.S. since his death. (Or is it already too late?)

Reagan worship has played a huge part in fueling the Tea Party movement.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFzNhLRAgEU

Frankie Boyle on Mock the Week discussing the prospect of a State funeral -
"It'll be the first time the 21 gun salute shoots the coffin"

As a northerner I'm supposed to be celebrating apparently? That's clearly what my Facebook would lead me to believe right now anyway.

Honestly I just don't know enough about her other than shutting down the mines.

The conservative campaign to get her elected was the first proper media-savvy election of a Prime Minister -- there's a reason Blair thought well of Thatcher, it was her play book he used to win in '97...

My mum and dads generation know her as Maggie Thatcher the milk snatcher. She faced off against an industry that built Britain, and claimed thousands of lives ('the price of coal') with absolutely no compassion or planning for the welfare of affected communities, she introduced the community / poll tax among other things. During the Falklands conflict, some people were not impressed that her government sank the Argentine vessel, General Belgrano, while it was steaming away from the Falkland islands outside of the exclusion zone.. intel released in recent years, and thatchers memoirs paint a more understandable reason for the decision, but not everybody at the time was in on The Sun newspapers 'gotchya' war rhetoric...

Enduring images for you:

Miners Strike / Police clashes of 84/85:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOVwewzTi-8

Poll Tax riots:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeFS6S06w8c

she also presided over the country when the police were helping to instigate race riots in Liverpool through her sus laws, and was in charge during the hillsborough disaster - at which time, we now know, police and media were colluding to place blame on victims and their families.

Add calling the ANC 'terrorists' during apartheid and protecting Augusto Pinochet from prosecution to this list.
 
I was a kid when she was in power in the north east, i saw first hand what her policies did around here, they better not be a minute silence next sunday in the newcastle sunderland derby as that wont go well at all.

Someone just raised this in the football thread and its a valid point. It would be incredibly two faced and insensitive if the burden of a minutes silence was placed on the football community, at the same time as many would rather observe a minutes silence for a football tragedy which her government helped cover up.
 
I don't think Cameron would want a state funeral at all. He's done a lot of work trying to distance the modern Tories from the party of old, despite his occasional name dropping of her.

Also, it's worth remembering, for those outside the UK reading this thread, that she did win 3 elections... she's really not universally hated, as this thread might suggest.
 
Someone just raised this in the football thread and its a valid point. It would be incredibly two faced and insensitive if the burden of a minutes silence was placed on the football community, at the same time as many would rather observe a minutes silence for a tragedy which her government helped cover up.

Minutes silence are voluntary, I can guarantee if they tried to have a minutes silence the sound made during that minute would be heard over the Channel! :P
 
Privatising Margaret Thatcher's funeral would be a fitting tribute to her legacy
"In keeping with the great lady's legacy, Margaret Thatcher's state funeral should be funded and managed by the private sector to offer the best value and choice for end users and other stakeholders. The undersigned believe that the legacy of the former PM deserves nothing less and that offering this unique opportunity is an ideal way to cut government expense and further prove the merits of liberalised economics Baroness Thatcher spearheaded."
 
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