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[Canis lupus]

10 years ago we had Wnd waker and XIII, they still look great, especially on emulators but now we have Ninokuni and Naruto UNS3, they are a massive improvement over what was possible a decade ago. Cel shaded games have never been this close in resembling real hand drawn animation. Will next gen power finally make it possible to play real cartoons and anime?

Imagine a game like this:

 

[MYE]

Yes until the gen after this new one. Then we will have this thread again

 

[Lupin the Third]

Well, if they haven't achieved it with computer farms at pro studios, how would they pull it off on a console?

Even the Paperman CG short had to have part hand-drawn content...

 

[smr00]

The Naruto games looked almost identical to the anime counter-part.

I think it's been possible, it's just a lot of devs haven't been using that style.

 

[Shion]

The real question is:

"Will we even see any cel-shaded games in next-gen"?

 

[MichaelEM3]

Ultimate Ninja Storm 2 & 3 already look better than 99% of all Naruto anime episodes, aliasing and all -- so yeah, probably.

 

[FluxWaveZ]

CyberConnect2's stuff already comes damn close, so not sure how much substantial an improvement could be done on that front.

 

[Ratrat]

The new Berserk movie looked like a video game. A horrible filthy one.

 

[schwabdizzle]

Will we even see any cel-shaded games in next-gen?

I think so.

 

[TwEE-N-Toast]

This is one thread where I wish people would post lots of relevant gifs.

 

[Dibbz]

They already nailed cell shading this gen.

 

[Platy]

They already LOOK LIKE a cartoon/anime ... it is just not perfect.

But it will take a while to reach paperman levels of cell shading

 

[VoxPop]

I still think that Naruto and Ni No Kuni is leagues behind what it could be. Watching a Ni No Kuni / Naruto cutscene is a night and day difference from the actual game.

 

[bobbychalkers]

Is Wonderful 101 cel-shaded or is that its own thing?

 

[-PXG-]

Give me a proper, next gen, Jet Set Radio, and all of bullshit from this gen will be forgiven.

 

[GoofsterStud]

Considering I'm playing on the PS3:

Beautiful.

 

[frankie_baby]

The real question is:

"Will we even see any cel-shaded games in next-gen"?

windwaker

 

[-tetsuo-]

Ultimate Ninja Storm looks better than the show.


edit: by request

 

[gngf123]

windwaker

If you are talking about Wind Waker HD - From the concept art, it looks like they aren't using cel shading anymore.

 

[Risette]

videogames still have a long ways to go...

 

[jiggle]

character models from this gen are already pretty damn close

 

[Majmun]

Ni No Kuni comes really close

 

[Dabookerman]

windwaker

Thats current gen

"oh no he didn't!"

 

[Spring-Loaded]

Ultimate Ninja Storm looks better than the show.

They look amazing. I actually want to play one of them and I've only seen one episode of the show (Episode 167...).

 

[GoofsterStud]

Does the new South Park game count? Is it Cell Shading?

 

[BHK3]

I feel like we already brushed the surface this gen. But it doesn't HAVE to look like anime, I would much rather watch a cyberconnect naruto game then it's anime.

 

[Risette]

It looks amazing. I actually want to play one of them and I've only seen one episode of the show (Episode 167...).

You picked the best episode to watch. Great animation.

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

windwaker

Looks like a new "clay" type artsyle to me and Im lovin it.

also,Wii U is not nextgen

Spoiler

amidoinitrite?

 

[TheFLYINGManga_Ka]

It will be better, but they will still look robotic.

 

[Spring-Loaded]

You picked the best episode to watch. Great animation.

I can't wait for next-gen to give us in-game animation like this

 

[Sandfox]

The Naruto games looked almost identical to the anime counter-part.

I think it's been possible, it's just a lot of devs haven't been using that style.

Ultimate Ninja Storm 2 & 3 already look better than 99% of all Naruto anime episodes, aliasing and all -- so yeah, probably.

Ultimate Ninja Storm looks better than the show.

I think that has more to do with the thin budget the anime has more than anything else.

 

[Lime]

If publishers are willing to fund it, yes.

But since the style isn't inherently a realistic military shooter, I guess no.

 

[Drencrom]

videogames still have a long ways to go...

Awful draw distance, you can see their faces pop-in

 

[Spongebob]

Ultimate Ninja Storm looks better than the show.

Unfortunately the animation for Naruto Shippuden sucks for the most part so looking better than the show isn't a big complement.

 

[flippedb]

Thats current gen

"oh no he didn't!"

It is.

I don't think this current-gen will achieve that, although it might come close, seeing how some last gen PS3 games look pretty good already.

 

[Pestilence11]

Ni No Kuni as mentioned looks pretty good but yeah not there yet.

 

[Risette]

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs2/1233941_o.gif[IMG][/QUOTE]
[url=http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=31193]The rest of Wakabayashi's episodes are pretty cool too, but none hit the levels of 167.[/url]

 

[Slayer-33]

I can't wait for next-gen to give us in-game animation like this

Please tell me that's a fan animation gif lol

 

[3phemeral]

Does the new South Park game count? Is it Cell Shading?

Depends on the rendering process. If it's just a group of bitmaps overlapping, not really. But if the lighting is calculated in a way so as to only render 2 to 3 banded shades of color, then sure. Windwaker only counts in that the characters were cell-shaded, but that the environments were mostly just textures that were painted to match the cell-shaded art style.

[edit] As far as rendering is concerned, I'm sure current/next-gen machines will be more than capable. But it's not just the rendering that needs to be up to par with emulating traditional cartoon-style art, it's also the animation that needs work.

 

[methane47]

The Naruto game does NOT look as good as the Anime

Spoiler

It looks BETTER seriously... they just just making the anime with the game engine

edit: apparently i'm way late

 

[-tetsuo-]

Unfortunately the animation for Naruto Shippuden sucks for the most part so looking better than the show isn't a big complement.

So we have already answered the OP's question?

 

[DR2K]

Eternal Sonata, Tales of Vesperia, Valkyria Chronicals, Naruto, and Ninokuni are pretty close.

 

[kingofthedead45]

videogames still have a long ways to go...

What was this made on? Ue3?

 

[Haly]

This tops ponpo's troll.

 

[Skilletor]

I loved the Zabuza/Haku fight. Glad they gave them some respect by making it an actual boss fight.

CyberConnect has already made games that look like cartoons.

 

[sn00zer]

I think they really could, but considering most games based on anime are not good, excluding a few stand out series, I doubt most developers will put in the time to do so. Fans will buy it regardless.

 

[AppleMIX]

Ultimate Ninja Storm looks better than the show.


edit: by request

Jesus.

 

[The_Lump]

Yes until the gen after this new one. Then we will have this thread again

Hole in one.

 

[Soriku]

The real question is:

"Will we even see any cel-shaded games in next-gen"?

...Yes? Why wouldn't we? We are sure to see some JRPGs and anime games utilize cel shading this upcoming gen. It's not like the uptake on realistic cinematic games this gen stopped cel shaded games from being made.

Anyway, I can't wait to see the improvements. A cel shaded mainline DQ on PS4 in the vein of DQ8 on PS4 with no MMO bullshit like in DQ9 and 10 would be incredible but I doubt it'll happen.

 

[Sandfox]

So we have already answered the OP's question?

Naruto is a long running series so it gets a low budget per episode. It would be better to use a shorter anime from a known studio for this type of question.