The_Darkest_Red
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Definitely, but Wes is over here getting my hopes up with stuff like, "Don't think we'll see a cornerback go in the top 10."
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On WRs and Vikings:
Receivers is a big Question this draft. Austin will be gone by 21. Patterson is explosive but has character concerns. Vikings will have a choice to make do they risk on him or not. Jason Hunter would give immediate production. Allen is likely to drop too. Hopkins and Woods would be second round selections.
Receivers is a big Question this draft. Austin will be gone by 21. Patterson is explosive but has character concerns. Vikings will have a choice to make do they risk on him or not. Jason Hunter would give immediate production. Allen is likely to drop too. Hopkins and Woods would be second round selections.
If Elam and or Cyprien are available in the 2nd and the Eagles aren't going to draft E.J. at that spot then I want one of these two guys. Our safety position, as it is today, is improved from last year but Chung is always hurt and even when healthy he is just adequate. Kenny Philips could be a stead and a stud provided he too is healthy.
Ideally right now I would want Jordan or Star @ 4 then Elam or Cyprien at 34. Then either move back into the 2nd for EJ if they want a QB this draft or pick a QB much later from rounds 3-5.
That's not totally fair. It's a draft with clear elite skill players or pass rushers, so they can get Albert's equal for 5 years at a fraction of the cost. That's a good deal for them, and I think MIA would be wise to make the trade
On long term impact of missing draft picks:
Effect minimized with rookie wage scale, especially in top 10. If your first round pick doesn't pan out as a pro bowl player. There's no middle class. 10 guys paid really well, rest are rookies you need to contribute. So poor drafting could kill you.
Effect minimized with rookie wage scale, especially in top 10. If your first round pick doesn't pan out as a pro bowl player. There's no middle class. 10 guys paid really well, rest are rookies you need to contribute. So poor drafting could kill you.
shit I want Cyprien over Vaccarro and would be happy with a Cooper/Cyprien first round
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On Lane Johnson and Eagles:
There's an awareness this guy was a QB, coached at TE and DE before going back to LT. Tape from beginning of this year through the year has improved every single day. As tape has gotten better you can see the physical freakish ability. He ran faster than WR Boldin at 300lbs. Putting up same numbers as a skill position player. Only played LT for a year and a half - so how good could he get? His ceiling is unlimited. Could go all pro for 10 years.
On Lane Johnson and Eagles:
There's an awareness this guy was a QB, coached at TE and DE before going back to LT. Tape from beginning of this year through the year has improved every single day. As tape has gotten better you can see the physical freakish ability. He ran faster than WR Boldin at 300lbs. Putting up same numbers as a skill position player. Only played LT for a year and a half - so how good could he get? His ceiling is unlimited. Could go all pro for 10 years.
I'll give you the breakdown on Albert. He is slow to get off the snap, not strong enough for big rushers like Abraham or Ngata, not fast enough for Rushers like Tuck and Von Miller and not smart enough to read different blitz packages from powerhouses like the Bengals and the Chargers. Other than that he's a really good player. He's worth a 3rd rounder.
Technically he's a "good" pass blocker. But they wanted to move him inside for a reason, because he's average overall. The AFC has too many quick guys on the outside that he can't cover.
BlackGhost
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If we had to stay depending who's available it would have to be Dion Jordan/Millner/Austin for me.
On Nassib:
Passionate, intelligent and good work ethic. Reminds Mayock of Andy Dalton and Kirk Cousins. They both got pushed up the draft by coaches heading in to draft. Same thing happenign with Nassib. Love the intangibles. surrounded with good talent he'll be a capable starter in NFL.
Passionate, intelligent and good work ethic. Reminds Mayock of Andy Dalton and Kirk Cousins. They both got pushed up the draft by coaches heading in to draft. Same thing happenign with Nassib. Love the intangibles. surrounded with good talent he'll be a capable starter in NFL.
And to add more to the speculation, local Philly writers quoted Lane as saying "I like my chances getting picked by the Eagles" when he was asked about that possibility yesterday.
But at 4? Has his stock really risen that much? Just a month or so ago he was middle to late first round.
The_Darkest_Red
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Assuming Martin has progressed well this off-season, maybe they keep him at LT and play Albert at RT?
Taking the OT position from "must have" to just "need" could really free up some flexibility with that 12th pick. The more I read the more I'm convinced that the Dolphins aren't interested in a CB in the first (assuming Milliner is gone) so maybe they could get creative and go with someone like Eifert... That could be cool.
On Saints:
Edge rusher. Jarvis Jones. Steelers could get him at 17. Damonte Moore is longer than Jones but has off the field work ethic issues that make teams nervous. They're two wildcards that will be sitting there at 15.
Other position is tackle. How strong do you feel about Brown on current roster. Problem at 15 is therell be a run on tackles above them. Fluker is a starting RT only but he'll likely be gone by 15 too.
Edge rusher. Jarvis Jones. Steelers could get him at 17. Damonte Moore is longer than Jones but has off the field work ethic issues that make teams nervous. They're two wildcards that will be sitting there at 15.
Other position is tackle. How strong do you feel about Brown on current roster. Problem at 15 is therell be a run on tackles above them. Fluker is a starting RT only but he'll likely be gone by 15 too.
On Matt Elam and Sharrif Floyd:
Sharrif Floyd is #2 on Mayock's board. (Eric fisher #1.) Prototypical DT in a 4-3 D. Unique ability to disrupt pass game. Stout enough to play run too. Loves the kid.
Elam. Only issue is his height. TE beat him down the seam twice during a game. That's his only downside. He tackles, is tough, cares, has good hips, and will play a lot of years in the league.
Sharrif Floyd is #2 on Mayock's board. (Eric fisher #1.) Prototypical DT in a 4-3 D. Unique ability to disrupt pass game. Stout enough to play run too. Loves the kid.
Elam. Only issue is his height. TE beat him down the seam twice during a game. That's his only downside. He tackles, is tough, cares, has good hips, and will play a lot of years in the league.
On David Amerson:
Some teams love him. Some hate him. Mayock watched tapes where he wouldn't pick him in 7th round. Very good size. A real lightning rod. Gets exposed for lack of eye discipline. He could slide.
Good for an off-man team or a off-zone team, then he could be a second round pick.
Some teams love him. Some hate him. Mayock watched tapes where he wouldn't pick him in 7th round. Very good size. A real lightning rod. Gets exposed for lack of eye discipline. He could slide.
Good for an off-man team or a off-zone team, then he could be a second round pick.
I'm saying swap first rounders this year, trade a second, swap thirds with someone and take Lane Johnson at 7-9 maybe. If not, trade down 5 spots and take a CB or draft Eifert.
I'll get back to you when the schedule is out!
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lol You, SF, DAL, WAS, NYG, NE and DEN will get maximum allowed
Mackenzie 92
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you can make fun of and criticize division rivals picks
where are you watching this?
I miss it when the Giants were always the 1:00 game, so many primetime games/Monday games gets annoying after a while.
Conference call streaming on nfl.com
On Colts:
Without a second round pick GMs tempted to trade down. If they hold pat they could do with an edge rusher. Werner perhaps. Similiar player to Kruger.
They need to figure out interior OL too. Warmack and Cooper will be gone. Kyle Long will be around there.
There's some logical names at that point. They could even look at a corner.
Without a second round pick GMs tempted to trade down. If they hold pat they could do with an edge rusher. Werner perhaps. Similiar player to Kruger.
They need to figure out interior OL too. Warmack and Cooper will be gone. Kyle Long will be around there.
There's some logical names at that point. They could even look at a corner.
yankeehater
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Ruben Frank said on the morning show today that 5 is the max a team can get and he expects the Eagles to get at least 4 if not 5. He said there is a lot of buzz around the NFL about Chip, and people will tune into to see how he does.
ConradCervantes
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Mayock saying late first was mind boggling. I had heard 5th a few weeks ago
On DJ Hayden:
#14 on Mayock's board. As horrific as the medical thing was. It was a once in a gazillion situation and has no more chance of being replicated as it did in first place. Will he be same player after such a collision? Most assume he'll be player who he was.
He ran a 4.38. His big questions were speed and medical and they've both been answered. Not sure who'll take him. It'll start at Titans at 10 but likely off the board by 21.
#14 on Mayock's board. As horrific as the medical thing was. It was a once in a gazillion situation and has no more chance of being replicated as it did in first place. Will he be same player after such a collision? Most assume he'll be player who he was.
He ran a 4.38. His big questions were speed and medical and they've both been answered. Not sure who'll take him. It'll start at Titans at 10 but likely off the board by 21.
Mackenzie 92
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Thanks.
Hayden visited the Raiders on Tuesday so he was already on our radar. I wouldn't mind having him depending on where we could get him.
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Another closeup teaser of the new unis.
I really really like the darker purple and borderless numbers.
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