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What is the final consensus on GTAIV?
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This is worthy of thisisneogaf.gif.
Just Cause 2 was fucking bland and boring.
Bought the complete edition 3 weeks ago and I've been playing through it for the first time (other than about an hour when it first came out). I think it's a great game, but it does have a few flaws. Trying to keep all of Niko's friends happy is ridiculous, because they're all so needy. If my real life friends got as offended by me saying I can't do something right this second, I'd have no friends anymore. Not sure why this dating sim part of the game was included; it's not that fun or interesting.
While the missions are fun because of the new shooting mechanics, it's pretty much just the same three mission types over and over: shoot everyone, protect someone and/or shoot everyone, or chase someone down and shoot them. The number of times that a mission ends with "Lose Your Wanted Level" is also somewhat annoying.
Last is they artificially lengthened the game story, badly. The story missions should be about half of what they are.
Through the complaints, though, it's still a very fun game and one I'm glad I finally picked up and will have beaten by the end of today. It would be nice to see GTA V take a bit more varied approach to the story missions.
While the missions are fun because of the new shooting mechanics, it's pretty much just the same three mission types over and over: shoot everyone, protect someone and/or shoot everyone, or chase someone down and shoot them. The number of times that a mission ends with "Lose Your Wanted Level" is also somewhat annoying.
Last is they artificially lengthened the game story, badly. The story missions should be about half of what they are.
Through the complaints, though, it's still a very fun game and one I'm glad I finally picked up and will have beaten by the end of today. It would be nice to see GTA V take a bit more varied approach to the story missions.
Mammoth Jones
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My take:
Great single player game. Some poor elements such as invasive cell phone calls. Overhyped by the gaming "press" with "10.0000000!!".
Completely disappointing and lackluster multiplayer. So much potential in GTA for some amazing multiplayer and it was basically a tacked on afterthought.
Great single player game. Some poor elements such as invasive cell phone calls. Overhyped by the gaming "press" with "10.0000000!!".
Completely disappointing and lackluster multiplayer. So much potential in GTA for some amazing multiplayer and it was basically a tacked on afterthought.
Nihilistic Monk
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I never played Gay Tony either. I enjoyed Lost & Damned. Might dive in tonight.
I assume it has 360 pad support?
Sad that the crazy mods i remember seeing a thread about a while back don't work with the steam version of GTA4 apparently as well.
Jawmuncher
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GTAIV stands as one of the worst big budget games in recent memory for me. The praise it received was no where near the product I got.
However both TBGT and TLATD were what I thought pretty good. Those two make up the game GTA4 should've been.
However both TBGT and TLATD were what I thought pretty good. Those two make up the game GTA4 should've been.
Noisepurge
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really, really liked it! so much amazing attention to details and euphoria physics mayhem never gets old.
SEGAvangelist
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Amazing in about every category but... gameplay.
Bad.
Bad.
Yup, native support.
By crazy mods, do you mean ENB? Because it is possible to downgrade the Steam version or use a steam native version.
Yeah, it was one of those HUEHUEHUE STAND ON A PLANE LOOK AT ME I'M FUN type of boring ass games. Play the demo for an hour and you've tried most of it.
If your imagination sucks. I think it's overrated as fuck, but it's certainly not boring.
The_Hitcher89
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If explosions and stunts are not enough to keep you entertained for the entire game, there is nothing else to JC2 imo. Had a blast for 15 hours or so, then realised that I'd been doing the exact same shallow thing for about 10 of those hours and lost all desire to play it. Same happened with Skyrim.
I've always found the Oscar-worthy story thing silly on here, people use it to criticise the game rather than IGN
Ptretty terrible. The missions were boring. The story was meandering and poorly written. Dialogue was shoddy. Gameplay still hit and miss (mostly miss).
This is a game I really thought felt soulless. I applaud Rockstar for trying to make a more mature game, but they lost what made them great in the first place. Red Dead Redemption was much better though, so I view GTA IV as their test run.
This is a game I really thought felt soulless. I applaud Rockstar for trying to make a more mature game, but they lost what made them great in the first place. Red Dead Redemption was much better though, so I view GTA IV as their test run.
Certainly don't think it's meh, but this is true. San Andreas is in my top 10, no question.
Yup. The only way to play.
breakfuss
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Absolutely wrong. Sleeping Dogs is unequivocally better than GTA IV. No meme necessary.
djplaeskool
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It gave us Republican Space Rangers, so it's ok I guess.
Oh yes not even close. Sleeping Dogs is leaps and bounds better.
diffusionx
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I liked it a lot.
Sure, if you like borderline-offensive bad driving physics, boring story, uninspired city design and terrible police interaction it's a lot better.
BigTnaples
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Every single open world game I touched this generation was better than GTA IV as far as not hating every single second of gameplay goes.
Wait...you're defending GTA IV with this? What?
Wait...you're defending GTA IV with this? What?
ii Stryker
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GTA IV had a whiny garbage protagonist and a dull story, shit driving physics and checkpoint system. The entire experience was mired in disinterest and frustration.
It was a pretty game for its time though.
Saints Row 2/3 and Sleeping Dogs are better games.
It was a pretty game for its time though.
Saints Row 2/3 and Sleeping Dogs are better games.
This.
Yeah, my lack of imagination is why it's boring.
It's story is monotonous, but the explosion comment describes the open world aspect of it too lol
Amazing game with a great main story (apart from cousin moron). Like others have said it didn't allow for as much craziness as some of the earlier games but I don't feel that made it worse, really. In my opinion it's the best GTA with the possible exception of 2.
If sleeping dogs had received a bit more polish it might have edged out GTA as best open world game of the generation though.
If sleeping dogs had received a bit more polish it might have edged out GTA as best open world game of the generation though.
Hyperbole much?
Ehh I liked Sleeping Dogs, but I came back to GTA more than I did Sleeping Dogs. Once I had finished the story I was done. I had my fun, I didn't see it getting any better from there.
The driving was just awful in it too.
Awful game, borderline unplayable. I must be completely blind because I can't see any redeeming features in it. It's hard to explain but I find everything about the controls to be unresponsive and stiff not to mention the worst cover system I've ever seen.
Game just isn't fun to play on any level for me.
Game is also ugly and performs like shit on my PC, stuttering like crazy regardless of my settings which makes me motion sick.
Might be slight hyperbole but I agree with it. If only because it got so well received by the press, which led to it being my biggest disappointment ever. Especially since I adored San Andreas.
Game just isn't fun to play on any level for me.
Game is also ugly and performs like shit on my PC, stuttering like crazy regardless of my settings which makes me motion sick.
Might be slight hyperbole but I agree with it. If only because it got so well received by the press, which led to it being my biggest disappointment ever. Especially since I adored San Andreas.
MiamiWesker
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Fantastic amazing game. But not as good as SA or VC. Still the gap in quality is not as big as others make it out to be.
GTA IV suffered for going too serious and cutting too much of the fun and crazy shit GTA is known for. The story was pretty good and I personally am not bothered by the disconnect so many people experienced by the cinematics vs gameplay actions of Niko.
I played through about 75% of the game before on 360, and have recently started it again on PC. It's more fun than I remembered, but the driving is absolute shit. So many people say it's realistic and better, but how the fuck is driving 10 mph, turning, and fishtailing like you're on a sheet of ice realistic? What was perhaps more realistic is that you can't go 80 around a corner. I get that some people might like that part better, but I personally just found it frustrating/annoying. You don't go the speed limit because it isn't fun. You don't stay in your lane (and even go against traffic) because doing so isn't fun. You already do a ton of driving that you would never do it real life, but of all things the fucking turning should be realistic. Because getting up to 40, braking for 5 seconds to get back to 15, turn, rinse/repeat is fun, right? I'll take GTA: VC/SA driving any day of the week.
People bitched about the story and characters, but the real problem all along was just the shitty driving. This is the most important thing to me going into GTA V.
I played through about 75% of the game before on 360, and have recently started it again on PC. It's more fun than I remembered, but the driving is absolute shit. So many people say it's realistic and better, but how the fuck is driving 10 mph, turning, and fishtailing like you're on a sheet of ice realistic? What was perhaps more realistic is that you can't go 80 around a corner. I get that some people might like that part better, but I personally just found it frustrating/annoying. You don't go the speed limit because it isn't fun. You don't stay in your lane (and even go against traffic) because doing so isn't fun. You already do a ton of driving that you would never do it real life, but of all things the fucking turning should be realistic. Because getting up to 40, braking for 5 seconds to get back to 15, turn, rinse/repeat is fun, right? I'll take GTA: VC/SA driving any day of the week.
People bitched about the story and characters, but the real problem all along was just the shitty driving. This is the most important thing to me going into GTA V.
BRocknRolla
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Really enjoyed it. Some of late game missions in which you are making important decisions about characters who you've become close to are really fantastic and left me feeling very depressed, which is something I can't say of most experiences. (The relationship missions in particular I got involved with I thought were extremely well done.)
In retrospect, there are a lot of problems with the game. The controls weren't necessarily great and the driving was more than a little fiddly. My biggest problem was some of the narrative dissonance that kept cropping up with Niko acting out of what I felt his character should be. I wished I had the option to walk away from a lot of missions as I felt like the people I was following were scumbags and no reasonable person would be helping them. Maybe that was a fault of the writing of the character, or maybe it was an issue with offering players too little choice. It's a tough line to toe I imagine, and I hope they address is in GTAV.
Overall though, I think it offers bits of story and experiences that I've not seen reached in other games. Certainly not a perfect game, but a great one.
Edit: I am amazed at how much heat people seem to give this game. It seems to have become a favorite whipping boy for some reason, and I really don't think the game warrants that. As for everyone saying "it's too serious," I do not understand you. That serious direction is precisely the thing I enjoyed about GTA IV. We have more than enough nonsensical, irreverent, overly bombastic, Michael-Bay-esque games on the market, we don't need every game to just be about "fun."
In retrospect, there are a lot of problems with the game. The controls weren't necessarily great and the driving was more than a little fiddly. My biggest problem was some of the narrative dissonance that kept cropping up with Niko acting out of what I felt his character should be. I wished I had the option to walk away from a lot of missions as I felt like the people I was following were scumbags and no reasonable person would be helping them. Maybe that was a fault of the writing of the character, or maybe it was an issue with offering players too little choice. It's a tough line to toe I imagine, and I hope they address is in GTAV.
Overall though, I think it offers bits of story and experiences that I've not seen reached in other games. Certainly not a perfect game, but a great one.
Edit: I am amazed at how much heat people seem to give this game. It seems to have become a favorite whipping boy for some reason, and I really don't think the game warrants that. As for everyone saying "it's too serious," I do not understand you. That serious direction is precisely the thing I enjoyed about GTA IV. We have more than enough nonsensical, irreverent, overly bombastic, Michael-Bay-esque games on the market, we don't need every game to just be about "fun."
sacrificengineer
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Great game.
TLatD really proved that a working story with a good set of characters make a game way more enjoyable. That was the problem with the game, you felt like you were doing errands for absolute randomers but getting nowhere even though there is this epic story going on. Id say I preferred it to TBoGT simply for the atmosphere.
Simply said, the real GTA of this generation is EFLC.
Simply said, the real GTA of this generation is EFLC.