One of my favorite games ever. It's a super divisive game, but I'm on the very most postive end of the spectrum. I've only played through the stories once, but I've spent hundreds of hours just fucking around in Liberty City. The Euphoria engine never gets old.
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What is the final consensus on GTAIV?
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DeadRockstar
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I don't think you'll ever get a consensus on something like this. I know people that love the game to this day. I couldn't finish the game back when it came out and I have no desire to now.
The city was nicely realised for sure, but the game felt long winded and not as enjoyable as other things I was playing around that time.
I also remember not being a fan of the checkpointing, which for a game that asks as much time of you as GTA IV does, is really inconsiderate design.
The city was nicely realised for sure, but the game felt long winded and not as enjoyable as other things I was playing around that time.
I also remember not being a fan of the checkpointing, which for a game that asks as much time of you as GTA IV does, is really inconsiderate design.
theAntagonist
Member
Me too man. Me too. Like Dan Houser said way back before IV's release, they only give a numbered title if it's the next evolution of Grand Theft Auto. I know the three main character's is a big deal, but I'm really very curious to see what they haven't shown yet.
I think that the games Rockstar made after GTAIV (Midnight Club: LA, Red Dead Redemption, and Max Payne 3) were all games made to facilitate the best Grand Theft Auto game they could make at this time.
I know on the 360 it's still on the top of the leaderboards even after five years. The only game to do so I think.theAntagonist
Member
Sorry DP.
That's true, sooner or later, you will have bought everything, true for every open world game out there.
The problem with GTA4 is that there is nothing to waste your money on to begin with...
Rollo Lawson
Banned
Decent enough game, i just had trouble caring about the story
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
The MP lends itself to some great times. And with some mods on PC, we're cooking with butter now!
Yea that was annoying and one thing that annoyed me the most in terms of SP.
Also on the PC it isn't too bad, I easily find like 10 to 20 server with an average of like 6 to 10 people ( mostly on the lower side) and sometimes above that too.
On IV and TBOGT MP I mean.
Not populated at all but still enough to enjoy the MP.
Great art design, good driving mechanics (ground vehicles only) that were maligned because they deviated from the expected norm, but the writing is so at odds with the gameplay, it destroys both. Which means it's not a masterpiece, it's pretentious crap that came about because Dan Hauser can't write anything that isn't a mediocre, self-serious gritfest at this point in his career. He's done so twice when the gameplay should have explicitly told him that it wouldn't work (GTA IV and Max Payne 3).
Overall, the game's a 6.5-7.0 (on a scale where 5 is average) buoyed up by the average consumer's blind-love for all things polished (and this may be the most polished game of the generation outside of MGS4 and RDR) and jampacked with content, even when that content is as meaningless as darts and bowling in a sandbox crime sim.
Overall, the game's a 6.5-7.0 (on a scale where 5 is average) buoyed up by the average consumer's blind-love for all things polished (and this may be the most polished game of the generation outside of MGS4 and RDR) and jampacked with content, even when that content is as meaningless as darts and bowling in a sandbox crime sim.
The Albatross
Member
I think one reason was because it was very poorly implemented at launch and wasn't much fun to play. The auto-aim ruined it completely... so it basically just became a "first to spot you wins," and because some of the modes had a learning curve to figure out how to play them, the first few weeks were ruined... If you got placed on a team with people who didn't know what to do or refused to play the objective, it made it impossible for anybody who was trying to play the objective be able to play.
Also, the add ons divided the online communities too much. I went to play a few months ago and launched up with XBL Ballad of Gay Tony online and couldn't find any games other than straight 15-minute DM.
Just finished GTA IV today, after a hiatus of two years (due to boredom with the game and better things to play). Sleeping Dogs surpasses GTA IV in everything (driving, characters, story, combat), except for the city environment,and that's due solely to the vast budget/team that Rockstar has working on the GTA games. Makes me wonder what Sleeping Dogs could have looked like with the budget that GTA IV had.
In any case, after finally finishing the game, I found that GTA IV is still boring, which is a pity, since it's evident that they poured a ton of work into the environments. I actively hated most of the characters and I dreaded having to drive around by the end of the game. I just started Lost and the Damned though and there seems to be an improvement in the writing. Hope that's still the case by the time I finish both it and Gay Tony.
Really hope that GTA V is a vast improvement over IV.
Vice City and San Andreas are two of my absolute favorite games of all time, so going into GTA IV, my expectations were high to say the least. Instead, I got a game that controlled so poorly and was so BORING in comparison to its predecessors that I actually stopped playing in 2008, and didn't return until just a few weeks ago, to get ready for GTA V.
Even all these years later, displaced from the hype, the game is really boring. Characters are uninteresting and unlikeable. I couldn't give a single fuck about ENDING SPOILER
. I've played the game for over 30 hours at this point, and I can NOT get used to the driving controls. It's been a while since I've played Vice City and San Andreas, so I'm going to conclude that they aren't bad because they're different, they're bad because they're bad.
I have no motivation to return to the game now that I've completed the mainline missions, whereas I couldn't get enough of the world of Vice City and San Andreas. It still blows my mind how critically acclaimed the game was when it launched... it's solid, but nothing AMAZING, really. It deserved all the backlash it got.
V is looking very promising right now, but so did IV before it launched, so I'm hesitant to get too excited for it.
Even all these years later, displaced from the hype, the game is really boring. Characters are uninteresting and unlikeable. I couldn't give a single fuck about ENDING SPOILER
Roman dying at the end
I have no motivation to return to the game now that I've completed the mainline missions, whereas I couldn't get enough of the world of Vice City and San Andreas. It still blows my mind how critically acclaimed the game was when it launched... it's solid, but nothing AMAZING, really. It deserved all the backlash it got.
V is looking very promising right now, but so did IV before it launched, so I'm hesitant to get too excited for it.
They're bad because you are bad, very simple.
I easily got the hang of the controls once I knew what is required, just STOP trying to think you can play IV like you can 99% other open world games, use some common sense when driving ( I REALLY don't mean this as an insult, just the way to describe it, sorry if you feel it is) and remember the basics.
It's not as simple as driving a little different from those games, you have to play quite a lot differently to those games to get IV physics.
By that I mean:
Break ahead of a turn, by ahead I mean like actually think ahead by some distance, the breaks are super sharp, I do hope they maybe were a little more sharper though
Cars roll and suspension exist in the vehicles, you car will roll a lot and effect handling A LOT if you are driving too fast and turning
When turning don't fully move the analog to turn as that will make you spin a little if you are going fast, smoothly turn it ( right speed, judge that by how much it is turning) into the corner to smoothly turn. Don't do twitchy controls.
Control the speed properly, too fast and you go into the wall, push the trigger ( quickly tap on the PC) like halfway in
Breaking too hard while going fast= tyre lock that causes you to slide, best not to slide.
Yes it sounds a bit too OTT, but again it's one of those things that once you understand and can do it in game, it will be very easy and you wont even think about it when driving, it will just naturally happen.
The payoff for learning these physics is that you not only get to appreciate the depth, quality and effort R* put into the driving, but you will also realise just how good the driving is ( I would say win online, but not much people play online now) and when you go back to games like SR, SD or JC you will naturally find the driving super easy straight away cause they are so simple.
Its not hard, it's not complicated for a open world game at all, it is just different and superior ( IMO, anyway)
Me and many people I know seem to be very capable of making turns at high speeds without crashing, weave through traffic at high speed and controls all types of cars without a problem, those complaining can too once you understand it,
Trust me, there are actually bad physics ( deadly premonition) and controls that may seem bad but only cause they are challenging in the beginning ( IV).
It's like with ANYTHING that is in depth, daunting and even annoying at first, but once you understand you will love it.
Jim E. Rossler
Banned
The driving physics were shit
The base engine behind it has potential, and was addressed in the realistic handling mod
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYs2zTGqRPA&feature=youtu.be&t=53s
It does take a long time to get used to driving, because you understeer like a boat in sand
R_thanatos
Member
Driving physics are great. i had to learn a little but i completed everything .
Sleeping dogs ( since many are comparing to GTA4 ) had like no fun in drifting because the cars have no weight
Sleeping dogs ( since many are comparing to GTA4 ) had like no fun in drifting because the cars have no weight