Reddit apologizes for "Online Witch Hunts" regarding Boston events

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None of that contradicts the premise they were released to help with identification.

It doesn't seem like it was the primary motive or preferred method of IDing them.

Law enforcement officials debated whether to release the photos, weighing the risk of the suspects fleeing or staging another attack against the prospect of quicker identification. Officials said they went ahead with the public appeal for three reasons:

●Investigators didn’t want to risk having news outlets put out the Tsarnaevs’ images first, which might have made them the object of a wave of popular sympathy for wrongly suspected people, as had happened with two high school runners from the Boston area whose photos were published on the front page of the New York Post under the headline “Bag Men.” At the news conference, FBI Special Agent in Charge Richard DesLauriers sternly asked the public to view only its pictures or risk creating “undue work for vital law enforcement resources.”

●During a briefing Thursday afternoon, President Obama was shown the photos of the suspects by senior members of his national security team. Senior administration officials said that although Obama was not asked to approve release of the images by the FBI, the president offered a word of caution after viewing them. Be certain that these are the right suspects before you put the pictures out there, he advised his national security team, according to the administration officials.

●Investigators were concerned that if they didn’t assert control over the release of the Tsarnaevs’ photos, their manhunt would become a chaotic free-for-all, with news media cars and helicopters, as well as online vigilante detectives, competing with police in the chase to find the suspects. By stressing that all information had to flow to 911 and official investigators, the FBI hoped to cut off that freelance sleuthing and attend to public safety even as they searched for the brothers.
 
I really do not see what the uproar is all about. Since when are message boards and anonymous message board posters considered a serious news source? The whole Sunil theory was just that, a theory. At what point did it start to be a theory which was taken as near-fact and who seriously reported it as such? I understand that some people on the internet take things too far and get into peoples personal space based on these "witch hunts", but how is that the responsibility of Reddit?
 

Uh?

I don't know if that was a wise decision.

It was horrible for Sunil's family and the guys the post accused, but this ended with a cop dead and one of the suspects shot.

Maybe it would have been enough for them to say "We are confident it was not Sunil and the suspects are actually white guys".

e: at that point they didn't know any of them went to college, tho
 
They didn't have to, everyone was doing it. Guess they are the only ones with the balls to say something.

at least they said something. Reddit is a rather self congratulatory and rather douchey userbase when looked at as a whole, but most redditors seem to regard reddit rather positively and should remember this.

edit: people need to take breaking 'twitter news' with a grain of salt. it's just way it goes. literally everything gets reported and the truth is in there somewhere, I actually think it probably does more good than harm, provided they have you know, some professionals checking all the amateur hour shit that goes on in the reddit witch hunts and so forth. Wouldn't be surprised if the internet method of throwing everything at the wall actually made something stick for a trained eye.
 
Woah, this is pretty crazy, does that mean that Reddit and the internet detectives are basically responsible for the police officer that died trying to apprehend the two suspects? (or do I have the timeline wrong? was that police officer shot before the FBI photos were released?)

Again, don't take my word for the whole thing and read the article. There were numerous articles (most of them sourcing Washington Post) that Reddit and New York Post's false witch hunt was the reason the photos were revealed. They were debating whether to release these photos or not because releasing them would make the suspects more alert.

Again, I/there may be super exaggerating in reading discussions (which I read in Reddit, duh!). They also tried face recognition software but didn't work because the videos were not clear enough. Oh and as much as Reddit may take credit for being the ones to alert cops about the higher-res photo of the bomber fleeing from the scene, it was reported by someone else instead.
 
Its pretty crazy that FBI released the images because of the witch hunt on the internet. Their initial plan was to apprehend them while they least expect it e.g. in classroom.

Could've been much peaceful if it wasn't for them meddling kids.

EDIT: Link: http://news.yahoo.com/f-b-released-tsarnaev-brothers-photos-because-reddit-170345320.html

Your link refutes your classroom claim. It says they only discovered their identities after releasing the photos and the boys aunt called the FBI.
 
Interesting. The article also says, "once the pictures had been released, one of the brother's aunts phoned the F.B.I. to identify them.". I could have sworn Fox News kept saying something about "not one of their family members contacted the FBI after the photos were released."

In the interviews one of the aunts said she had looked over the photos over and over and convinced herself it was her nephews.

Gonna guess this happened pretty late into the night, though.
 
Its pretty crazy that FBI released the images because of the witch hunt on the internet. Their initial plan was to apprehend them while they least expect it e.g. in classroom.

Could've been much peaceful if it wasn't for them meddling kids.

EDIT: Link: http://news.yahoo.com/f-b-released-tsarnaev-brothers-photos-because-reddit-170345320.html

I think it was more because of the Post's irresponsible journalism of releasing unconfirmed photos of suspects, which the Post obviously used Reddit as their "news source".

Still wrong, but I tend to believe that the Post's cover page is what forced the FBI's hand and not Reddit on its own.
 
Did we ever discover why some asshat mentioned the names of Sunil and some Mike Mulagata in the chatter transcriptions?

People do swear having heard the police radio mentioning these names.

Wonder if it was a tasteless joke against this Mike dude.
 
Woah, this is pretty crazy, does that mean that Reddit and the internet detectives are basically responsible for the police officer that died trying to apprehend the two suspects? (or do I have the timeline wrong? was that police officer shot before the FBI photos were released?)
not all the blame is on reddit but the fact the internet wanted to play CSI is why some of this shit blew up
 
Did we ever discover why some asshat mentioned the names of Sunil and some Mike Mulagata in the chatter transcriptions?

People do swear having heard the police radio mentioning these names.

Wonder if it was a tasteless joke against this Mike dude.

Sunil Tripathi's name was never mentioned on the police scanner. The name "Mulugeta" (no first name attached) was mentioned, but it was not clear from the scanner what the context was.
 
Sunil Tripathi's name was never mentioned on the police scanner. The name "Mulugeta" (no first name attached) was mentioned, but it was not clear from the scanner what the context was.

Ok thanks.

Probably was related to another case that night; a couple of times the cops would talk about another crime scene and people became confused.

E: maybe the Mike part came from the whole watch yo mikes shenanigans
 
Didn't news outlets like CNN broadcast the bullshit that came from reddit?

The blame is on them, imo.

The problem is that everyone now uses their "anonymous source" for info (*cough*twitter feeds*cough). This makes the journalists look bad when they're late on news, and makes them look bad when they're too early on their news and it's not correct.
 
Ok thanks.

Probably was related to another case that night; a couple of times the cops would talk about another crime scene and people became confused.

Yeah, that's my best guess too. I'm just glad that Mulugeta, whoever they are (and if they exist), doesn't seem to have been directly harassed.
 
Facial recognition was coming up empty. The photos would have come out eventually in order to get help in identifying the culprits. Even by their own words, the result of them releasing the photos and telling people to feed any info through their channels is that people phoned in with information about the identity of the suspects.

And once it came out, immediately following the attacks, that they had a TON of video and camera footage and the suspects could see on the national news networks how in-depth the images were, I'm sure they knew they were going to get caught, so it's possible that another day delay in releasing the photos could have had them escape from the area.

It's tragic that a police officer died, but considering the arsenal of explosives and guns these guys were packing, it could have been worse if these guys were better prepared for a shootout.
 
So basically nothing will change and shitty Z-tier CSI will be how the internet keeps trying to prove that it's better than mainstream media.

The internet was like half an hour ahead of the rest of the media on most of the news of the manhunt, tho.

And on top of that it's not like mainstream media was any better on pointing fingers at the wrong persons.
 
Not too much different than some of the shit said on GAF...

The discussion on GAF mainly consisted of individuals reposting things said on Reddit and evaluating them as true or false. No one was providing original photos here, no one was identifying new "suspects" here. It's not just because Reddit is larger, but also because redditors organized a subreddit dedicated specifically to looking at photos and identifying the bombers; here that was at best an adjunct attached to the overall discussion of breaking news.

Edit: Notwithstanding independent bullshitters like ChiTownBuffalo.
 

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The internet was like half an hour ahead of the rest of the media on most of the news of the manhunt, tho.

And on top of that it's not like mainstream media was any better on pointing fingers at the wrong persons.

Exactly. No outlet is worth holding up as "better" than any other. Let the police do their damn job and stay away from pointless speculation and lines drawn in MS Paint.
 
I will never forget the Sunil shit and the people who were 100% sure that the 19 year old suspect and Suhil were the exact same person.
Some thought they looked similar, but some also were 100% sure and even ridiculed the people who said they were different.
The suspect and Sunil have very different faces, even at first glance. Now it's not a crime to have bad eyesight or if you're not able to see differences in faces. But please, in future facial recognotion threads, don't participate and realise that you are not able to judge these faces. Seriously. You have bad eyes/ bad judgement in faces.
And with those bad eyes you (unknowingly and without bad intentions, i'm sure) contributed to the pain of the family members of Sunil.

People will probably feel offended and say that these two people were very similar. But in reality, that's only true for people who have poor judgement in faces. Sorry, there is no way around it.
Yuuuuuup...
 
Legal GAF- Could the falsely accused take Reddit to court for defamation of character?

I'm not a legal person, but wouldn't safe harbor apply?

You'd have to take the individual posters to court. But since they are anonymous...
 
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