WWDC 2013
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TheGuardian
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Bomber Bob
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ML is shit?
CrudeDiatribe
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Works well here.
badcrumble
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Haswell should make that doable, I think, but it depends on whether they can preserve its good battery life and keep the cost of the display workable (it's smaller than the MBP display, so it should be affordable).
Both the Pro and Air have 13.3" screens. What I'm curious about with a Retina Air is if they'll keep the Air's resolution advantage and give it a 2880x1800 screen (doubling the current Air's 1440x900).
badcrumble
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That would definitely not happen.
You'd think, but I thought it was strange the Air had a resolution advantage over the Pro to begin with. Who knows. With the 13" Retina Pro being nearly as thin and light as the Air anyway, they've got to come up with some reason why you'd buy a 13" Retina Air over a Pro.
badcrumble
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More affordable, better battery life Air
vs
more powerful, higher storage Pro
sounds like a reasonable tradeoff to me, IMO. Right now the Retina display is a pretty marquee feature, though, so I could see Apple keeping it MBP-only for a little while (which would be a mistake, IMO).
victreeb3l
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cant wait, should be exciting.
helloresolven
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Someone, somewhere always thinks the latest version of OS X is shit and the best iteration was two versions back.
All downhill after Tiger imo.
The problem is - assuming
A) you give the Air a Retina display
B) the Retina Pro replaces the regular Pro at the regular Pro price points
C) all other factors remain the same
The Air isn't really cheaper, and doesn't get better battery life, nor does the Pro have more storage (both start at 128GB on the 13" model right now). They're going to need to differentiate the lines a bit better.
Unless Apple drastically improves their retina scaling implementation in 10.9, a Macbook Air with a retina display would have terrible performance.
Quoting Anandtech's Retina 13" review:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6409/13inch-retina-macbook-pro-review/5
The ulv cpus used in the Macbook Air would be too weak to properly drive a retina display.
Quoting Anandtech's Retina 13" review:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6409/13inch-retina-macbook-pro-review/5
The ulv cpus used in the Macbook Air would be too weak to properly drive a retina display.
Snow Leopard was pretty great.
ML's biggest short coming is full screen apps with dual monitors.
criesofthepast
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Snow Leopard was the greatest. Lion was garbage. ML is okay.
Yep, same here. Although a bump up to 1680×1050 or 1920×1200 would be nice. If the 13" goes Retina I might just have to reconsider buying it if the battery and graphical performance doesn't hold up.
More than that.
22 easy.
Tons of people use them, just not consumers. There are companies who will be 20 of these alone. I would have bought one but they took too long and I just built my own.
badcrumble
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Tickets just sold out. For those keeping track:
In 2010 the WWDC sellout took 8 days.
In 2011 the WWDC sellout took 12 hours.
In 2012 the WWDC sellout took 2 hours.
In 2012, the WWDC tickets just sold out in 2 fucking minutes.
In 2010 the WWDC sellout took 8 days.
In 2011 the WWDC sellout took 12 hours.
In 2012 the WWDC sellout took 2 hours.
In 2012, the WWDC tickets just sold out in 2 fucking minutes.
Ken Masters
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They should probably hold extra events for developers that need to go to the labs. The other stuff are posted online anyway.
Ken Masters
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WWDC has become more of a press event then anything now, I'm pretty sure apple get devs the help and tools they need
RiggenBlaque
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I could swear it was a lot less than that, I was able to try and login maybe 4 times (password saved, hit errors each time) before I finally got in and it said they were sold out.
I'm seriously fucking bummed out, this was my only opportunity to go to California all expenses paid
BroDudeGuy
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Jesus christ thats fast. At least this year they are posting all the videos during the conference instead of after.
yeah, but the keynote isn't the reason the tickets are selling out so fast. It's the 5 days of NDA'd labs afterward.
I know there's sessions that are recorded and placed online for devs but the hands on stuff is still super limited. Maybe they can have a couple more dev training sessions - no keynotes or press - just hands on stuff - throughout the year.
awilliams213
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Wow that's great to read.
razgriz417
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That's good, wonder if OT will be up during this or if it'll be shut down for E3
Vigilant Walrus
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Not only that, but MBA is the best average-day computer Apple has build. It fits the needs of regular folks who want the premium experience but who doesnt need excessive power.
It really is no wonder that Macbook Air 13 is their best selling product. The 13-inch MBP has been a disappointment ever since they canned it's GPU.
What we need;
more battery life
more SSD space for less money
Make OSX a less of a mess. If you're new to the Apple wagon This won't make sense to you, but believe us when we say that during the Tiger OSX, it was so stable. You would never see things like spinning beachballs.
Over the last few years I see Macs crash more and more. I buy that flash is responsible for a lot of it, but I also think that there is something fishy going on with thermals. Some peoples computers idle at 60-70 degrees when they get them. Thats beyond insane.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
Well there were rumours some folks from the OS X team had been pulled over to work on iOS.
Means probably that the framework is changing in a deep way that may affect some tenuous overrides that have been used in the past. Mac development is some crazy ass shit, so I won't be surprised if a few relatively minor changes to the uikit framework don't break a lot of apps. Luckily apple is pretty good about giving advanced warning when depricating old interfaces.
Another interpretation is that possibly a major aesthetic change will make some apps that were meant to match the old osx style won't fit in quite so well in new versions.
Edit: whoops, mixed up appkit and uikit. Uikit is in reference to iOS not osx.
double edit: Oh, this guy is just a hacker, so he probably knows nothing. (insider that is)
Still a extremely complex challenge when you are talking about anything other than UI. Not to mention the mythical man month issue.
BuggyDClown
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lol. You haven't been following chronic for long then have you.
This guy is rarely ever wrong. Tends to have good inside info.
Also rumors were that yes OS X team have been pulled over to help iOS and that iOS 7 and OS X were running behind due to iOS changes.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
OS X market is small fry compared to iOS, too. Apple need to get this one right, I think.
Makes sense they would be putting more devs on it.
Makes sense they would be putting more devs on it.
first I've heard of him. So be it if he has a good track record, I just thought that he was someone at apple when I first read the tweet.
infiniteloop
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hey guys, WWDC isn't for hardware announcements.
http://www.macrumors.com/2013/04/28...t-of-wwdc-non-retina-macbook-pro-to-continue/
http://www.macrumors.com/2013/04/28...t-of-wwdc-non-retina-macbook-pro-to-continue/
Nah, I wouldn't put Chronic up there with the usual Apple info folks. He started the NFC rumor for the iPhone 5 which turned out to be wrong. He has a better record when digging through the iOS betas though to figure out unannounced software features but there is no iOS 7 betas out yet
Chronic's NFC thing turned out to be wrong, but I don't doubt the device he was using had NFC. (Apple is always testing devices with features that might not make the final cut.)
I also remember he leaked photos/descriptions of Apple Maps to BGR. He definitely has friends working on the inside who shows him new things.
I also remember he leaked photos/descriptions of Apple Maps to BGR. He definitely has friends working on the inside who shows him new things.
POWERSPHERE
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That logo is totally hinting at ios7.
And the small bevel iPad needs to be mine.
And the small bevel iPad needs to be mine.
Mr. Wonderful
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I wonder if Haswell is when we'll get quad-cores in the 13" MBPs? If not with Haswell, then definitely with Broadwell. We're getting close, and the major reduction in energy consumption with Haswell could open that door.
Even more than quad-cores, though, I want a future 13" MBP with the embedded VRAM GPU.
He leaked images of iOS maps before any iOS 6 betas or WWDC. He also leaked the start of sales of unlocked iPhones. Neither of which can be done via digging through iOS betas.
BuggyDClown
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Man, Quad pro 13 or air 13 is the dream. That's when I will update my air next.
When you look at his other tweets around the same time, things could be big and exciting!
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