Football Thread |OT19| LA DECIMATED
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And I read today that there's a good chance he won't be fit for the final.
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As much as I want to see Hoeness lose, I just cannot imagine this Bayern side to lose another final. They just have been sooooo dominating for the whole season in all three competitions. Because I could not remember any other losses besides to Arsenal (0-2 at home), Bayer Leverkusen (1-2 at home) and BATE (1-3 away), I had to confirm this myself just now: it is true, Bayern just lost three times this season, in 31 Bundesliga, 5 domestic Cup and 12 Champions League games... scary..
Martinez was the best spanish player on the pitch. By far :-o Such a great performance. Love the fact that we don't have any suspended players this time.
Our midfield hasn't a patch on Bayerns. Only Carrick would stand a chance of getting into their squad and even then he wouldn't be a starter.
Tactics also plays a massive part too. Bayern are so robust and physical. They controlled the game against Barca in a way that United simply wouldn't be able to. They were tight at the back and were able to cope with Barca's pressing perfectly. United were ripped apart when we tried to do that against Barca.
They played the perfect game against Juventus too. Bayern are at their peak right now. United have a long way to go before we're as good as that. First thing we need to do is strengthen the midfield. Rafael is developing nicely, Jones and Smalling are getting there and Evans is pretty solid. Vidic has a few more good years in him too.We need a quality left back though and our wingers need to seriously up their game too. But with Kagawa, Welbeck, RVP and Rooney we have a very good line up of forward players.
Tactics also plays a massive part too. Bayern are so robust and physical. They controlled the game against Barca in a way that United simply wouldn't be able to. They were tight at the back and were able to cope with Barca's pressing perfectly. United were ripped apart when we tried to do that against Barca.
They played the perfect game against Juventus too. Bayern are at their peak right now. United have a long way to go before we're as good as that. First thing we need to do is strengthen the midfield. Rafael is developing nicely, Jones and Smalling are getting there and Evans is pretty solid. Vidic has a few more good years in him too.We need a quality left back though and our wingers need to seriously up their game too. But with Kagawa, Welbeck, RVP and Rooney we have a very good line up of forward players.
The_Hitcher89
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Yep.
A combination of circumstances, only one of which was unavoidable
Age (Xavi and Puyol declining)
Rubbish transfers (Truly rubbish)
Over-reliance on one player, leading to the decline of others
Obsession with tiki-taka at the cost of variety and unpredictability
Great manager who can't be bothered with the pressure
FootballFan
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lol
It hasn't exactly affected them the previous so many seasons.
I guess even the greatest sides go through a bad patch.
Canis lupus
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Bayern will demolish Dortmund.
Can Crusher
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After tonight?
I think maybe barca fans shouldn't talk shit. Madrid went down fighting at least.
Messi is gonna be playing at Napoli when he's 28.
Dude was on steroids for at least 4 years straight.
The_Hitcher89
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Oh, I've only seen the first F&F, and then only once
By both, do you mean Rodgers and Kenny? If so, take a seat next to Lunchbox and kurtrussell
Milchmonster
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Seems like a good load of shit to be honest. Almost 4 weeks out because of a Muskelfaserriss? That would be conspiracy age part two.
I'd be fine with a shit match and a 1-0 BVB win
tbh you've already won, you can be proud of your team no matter what, it's a gigantic achievement. same goes for Bayern but they just can't afford to lose.
Vivalaraza
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I can't believe I might miss the final.
There must be somewhere in Madinah which will be showing it. Surely...
There must be somewhere in Madinah which will be showing it. Surely...
I dunno if you heard, but they both lost.
I dunno FF, his team scored three goals..
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Could be a problem for Bayern.
FootballFan
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Yes but the end result was the same.
Otherwise you are doing what Xavi does. "At least we lost playing real football". Still lost.
And got eliminated.
Madrid did have a better CL campaign though, we sucked through out the whole thing. People didn't really seem to notice though lol.
But both got eliminated so don't see how either could laugh. But go ahead.
Milchmonster
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Bayern fan wisdom: "Bayern beat Barcelona, they'll win the CL. Chelsea beat Barca and won it last year."
Fuck, it's true, we're done.
Fuck, it's true, we're done.
I think this team faced already enough problems. One more or less doesnt matter at this point. They can be proud of themselves.
The_Hitcher89
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Ronaldo vs Messi matches are overrated anyway. Only once have both of them lived up to the hype in the same match.
I suppose that will give their fans some comfort.
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yeah. they will celebrate this when they watch the final at home on the TV.
hey at least we scored
Don't forget Inter and Man Utd.
After the past couple years, I'm kinda over the whole glorious failure stuff. No one gives a fuck about pride.
I've liked what I'Ve seen so far. They players are so focused, it's unbelievable really. Last year they made the mistake of celebrating just making the final and forgot to win it. I doubt this will happen again this year.
Oh, I've only seen the first F&F, and then only once
By both, do you mean Rodgers and Kenny? If so, take a seat next to Lunchbox and kurtrussell
You're missing out on the greatest movie franchise of all time.
Well, I'll say you won't get anywhere near top 4 with either manager and leave it there.
:lol
In terms of results and the legend that followed them around, probably yeah. But like... I haven't really enjoyed watching them the last season or two, besides little pockets of play.
The 2008/09 team with Henry/Messi/Eto'o is one of my absolute favourites.
There's a good discussion guys; what is your favourite/best team you've ever seen? Could be yours, could be someone else's. That Barca one is definitely in the discussion for me, and the Arsenal sides of 2001/02 and 2003/04, and Chelsea 2004-06 were stunning teams.
For me, the United side from 2006-09, that run of three titles in a row, two Champions League finals, Ronaldo and Rooney at their peak as footballers, Edwin van der Sar having a late career renaissance, Rio and Vidic in full swing... those three years have been my favourite as a United supporter.
Nah it's a statistic that has been true for the past couple for years. The CL champion was either Barca or the team that beat them, I was shaking my head too when he was making that comment but it isnt as ridiculous as it sounded.
The_Hitcher89
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I think given a few years with Rodgers, and a reasonable budget, we could. It became abundently clear that Kenny was unlikely to take us back there as time went on though
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Maybe you're ri.............BVB!!!! BVB!!!
I don't know...
It seems hard to muster up something positive from such a heavy defeat.
FootballFan
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Yes and Barca went out in glory vs Inter because we were 1 goal away and won the 2nd leg.
Wait, no. still got eliminated.
This is exactly the same points Xavi would make lol. "At least we played good football" or something.
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Canis lupus
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Frank Rijkaard should come back to Barca, sign Eto'o and Ronaldinho and kick out the new players who are clearly at sub Barca level.
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The true loser of these semifinals is Bobby Moore's statue.
uhh yes?
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