Now I've read everything. It's your opinion fine but you are crazy.
The Last Of Us > The Shawshank Redemption. Okay.
Why can't the industry give us more games like TLoU?
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Now I've read everything. It's your opinion fine but you are crazy.
The Last Of Us > The Shawshank Redemption. Okay.
Spieler Eins
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The Citizen Kane of gaming!!1 lol
Anyway, the real question is, why can't the industry give us less cinematic half-games and corridor TPS?
Uno Venova
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When ever a game gets praised too much, you can definitely the see the extra, almost fake effort to be reductionist about the game.
I don't get any of the hype surrounding TLoU. It just seems like another Bioshock Infinite where everyone is in love with the story and production values, but the underlying game is merely not terrible.
Can you blame people for being skeltical when they've been disappointed by other games that got similar praise?
Can you blame people for being skeltical when they've been disappointed by other games that got similar praise?
You guys are insane. Why are you jumping down his throat if he enjoys the gaming medium over film? It's understandable. If his immersion is more powerful with a good game, then it's normal that he's going to enjoy a really good game over a really good movie. He likes that type of experience more, it's that simple. This reaction is idiotic. Grow up.
SolidSnakex
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Well, it doesn't seem liked you've played the game, so that's probably a good reason why you don't understand why it's getting so much love from those that have played it.
Can Crusher
Banned
Last of Us isn't hammy cheese in the slightest. You're way off base sport, but yes it's true that there are better stories out there.
Do you say that every time you read a book or watch a movie though? "Meh, it's hammy cheese compared to the Godfather". lol
I'll take game like DayZ over TLoU any day of the week with closed eyes. After this generation i'm sick of 'cinematic experiences', we need more meaningful games with sandbox or at least half-sandbox gameplays, not another corridor adventures.
We need more games like Prey 2 or bigger versions of Dishonored.
We need more games like Prey 2 or bigger versions of Dishonored.
Phat Michael
Banned
I agree with you. I played the demo which came with God of war and it sucked. but god damn saying Tlou isn't perfect on neogaf is pretty much grounds for banning.
Uncharted 3 also sucked. I wish their games were actually fun to play but it's the same slick veneer over tired and archaic gameplay over and over.
Uno Venova
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I can't really relate, I don't go into a game I bought thinking about how much other people praised or hated it for the sum of it's parts.
1st Course
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Can Crusher
Banned
Aside from Max Payne 3, which 3rd person shooter is less archaic than Uncharted 3?
I for one have noticed some just completely suck at stealth games. The gameplay wasn't "frustrating" at all, at best you just aren't any good at it. The mechanics are all sound, and work.
There seems to be lots of these posters who shit on the game/ND and have obviously never played it.
RustyNails
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Maybe not every imdb top 250, but I found it better written than majority of films I've watched. And I've watched a lot. Its just a naturally deeper experience than any movie out there yet the gameplay is also just as good. Ot is my game of this generation easily.
RustyNails
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Oh snap.
So it has nothing to do with storytelling. I would recommend avoiding saying statements like your previous post in public for your sake.
That better describes UC2's gameplay. Which is frankly mediocre.
TLoU is actually really fun to play. But yes, there are better playing TPS's out there. Effective narrative, production values and new game hype all have a hand in surrounding it with some silly, over-the-top praise.
But more than half-way through, the game does very well what it sets out to do. I'm loving it for what it is.
Godfather is pretty cheesy.
But I'll elaborate. The "realistic" world and characters of TloU were lacking in so many interesting aspects and morals. Sexuality as the most blatant one to me. Starvation was an afterthought in a "scavenging" themed game. Reprecussions of player actions was pretty much brushed aside by one character and the game made sure the player wouldn't feel bad because hey they were disgusting hobos so who cares right? Women and children were nowhere to be seen aside a few rooms/journals.
I mean the story was pretty gripping by videogame standards, but if you start comparing it to mediums and works with less restraints and cencorship, you are bound to see how limited and safe the game really is.
I really liked TloU but goddamn if it's not on its way to becoming the most overhyped game on GAF.
1st Course
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The video games industry today is bigger than the movie and music industries combined if you're not aware. Everyone play games these days, it's not the 80's anymore.
The status of videogames as a medium for storytelling hasn't changed much from the 80's though
Don'tBeWeird
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Straley and Druckmann appreciation thread!
Miles Quaritch
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In purely gameplay terms, State of Decay is better by a considerable margin. It's simply more fun on a base level, that's something I feel TLoU didn't fully realise as it was focused on telling a story.
Speaking of the story, this is where TLoU truly excels and it is probably one of the best games I've played this generation in this regard. Really excellent storytelling.
Speaking of the story, this is where TLoU truly excels and it is probably one of the best games I've played this generation in this regard. Really excellent storytelling.
When ever a game gets praised too much, you can definitely the see the extra, almost stupidity that tends to remarked in its praise in hyperbolic fashion.
FunkyPajamas
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The status of videogames as a medium for storytelling hasn't changed much from the 80's though
C'mon son. Is The Last of Us in the same storytelling league than the original Super Mario Bros?
RibbedHero
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Do people really think TLOU is groundbreaking? It's a type of game we've seen very often these last few years, just very polished. It doesn't break new ground, it's just executed terrifically.
I meant status as in the status of the medium seen by general public.
Yep that's exactly how the game is.
FunkyPajamas
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Isn't that the name of this thread? "Why can't the industry give us more (excuted terrifically) games like TLoU?"
Spieler Eins
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Super Mario Bros didn't try to tell a story. You might wanna compare it to something like Snatcher instead.
dead souls
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Wow. Some of the posts in here are exactly why I'm loath to tell anyone I'm a gamer.
TLoU better than any film in the IMDB top 250? Damn, stop embarrassing me fellow gamers.
TLoU better than any film in the IMDB top 250? Damn, stop embarrassing me fellow gamers.
Because such polish and execution costs a lot and demands a very specific know-how from the developer.
Chairmanchuck
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Or people just assume they havent played it, just because the criticise it. I finished the Game yesterday and the gameplay was a bit above normal TPS-standard.
I liked the atmosphere and the presentation, but in the end I would also compare it with Bioshock Infinite. Good presentation and atmosphere, but the gameplay isnt something "new".
Exactly. Somehow I see in 4-5 months people will realize it like with Bioshock Infinite.
Not to say these games arent good though.
RibbedHero
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If the thread is talking about execution then the answer is very obvious: budget, talent and development time.
SpinningBirdKick
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It's easier to make a bad game than it is a good one.
sublimit
Banned
What exactly in TLOU gameplay you want to see in other games too?
Majmun
Member
We've seen enough games like it.
- apocalyptic setting
- zombies
- cinematic approach
- stealth gameplay
- companion character(s)
Many games have used those themes during current gen. But Naughty Dog has created something special out of something that's not so special. That's because they're a very talented studio.
And yes, we need more good games like TLoU. But they need to be just as good.
- apocalyptic setting
- zombies
- cinematic approach
- stealth gameplay
- companion character(s)
Many games have used those themes during current gen. But Naughty Dog has created something special out of something that's not so special. That's because they're a very talented studio.
And yes, we need more good games like TLoU. But they need to be just as good.
Kenshin001
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I think the cutscenes are about 93 minutes in total. I played the game for 23 hours. Sometimes I'd deliberately get killed just to play the section a different way, try combat or stealth, a different path, different weapons. Point being there is a wealth of gameplay. It can be fun or tense. You can be creative.
The game is cinematic in that it has great scenes, is well acted, well paced, has a compelling, emotional, thought provoking, mature, very human story. I don't see what is wrong with this.
For people saying the game is linear or a corridor shooter, I wonder if they played the game, if they rushed through it or we played the same game. There is a set narrative but sometimes I got lost in the openness of the world. Sometimes you are funneled yeah, but often you have this wide space to explore and take in. I really liked the rhythm they had going on with that.
If other games can achieve all that I'm all for it.
Mr. Poolman
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A part of GAF is riding TLoU hype train waaay to hard.