wtf, so nothing new then.
Industry Insider "NateTheHate2" claims more Sony games are coming to Xbox
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wtf, so nothing new then.
mckmas8808
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It's probably contractually obligated to happen LOL! It's a Live Service Marvel game.
JohnnyFootball
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I doubt they care in the slightest.
mckmas8808
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Sony does a good job getting those type of games from 3rd party publishers. That's always been Sony's secret weapon.
Dalbajobas
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GT selling on xbox when there's much superior Forza... You might want to check GoW numbers on steam.. spoiler it's pretty embarrassing. I doubt it would be much different on xbox.
Mr Moose
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Tiago Rodrigues
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Lmao. This aint 2009 anymore.
Taur007
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Uhh yeah the only way to get it on Xbox would be to BUY IT!!!!
How big of a part do you think piracy played into the pc version not selling?
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Danny22
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I think helldivers 2 will sell a couple million. It fits too perfectly with the audience, has a lot of name and hype. Other games probably won't, though.When they'll see Helldivers 2's sales on Xbox, they'll be like
Thing with spiderman 2 is it had no advertisement, was a bad port, was region blocked in the majority of the world (none of their games apart from Tsushima did particularly well after it was adopted), not to mention post-release criticism of the game. Combine all that and the fact that the first one did 65k ccu, I think 30k was better than they could have hoped for. I don't think piracy plays much in terms of lost sales especially for a more casual crowd game.
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Cakeboxer
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I don't even think it will sell a million copies. The game's peak is long gone; there are less than 10% of the peak player numbers left on Steam, no idea how it looks on PlayStation tho. I'd estimate it might sell around 300–400k copies on Xbox, maybe.
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adamsapple
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Yes? People don't care about graphics as much as you think they do. Switch 1 is terrible hardware yet sold over 150 million.
There won't be any good reason to own a ps5 or ps6 if you can get everything on switch 2. Pretty soon those late ports will become day 1 ports out of necessity as their platform business dwindles. Just like with MS.
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
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If that's the case (and I think you're right: Tokon coming to Xbox), then SIE should've announced it at the reveal. This is what I mean by the confused messaging: they want to have that "hype moment" with the fanbase by pretending to give them a big quality AAA 3P exclusive with a mega-popular IP. Marvel, no less, knowing many people (including Xbox gamers) will see it as a spiritual successor to the Capcom MvC games, and knowing Xbox gamers will feel left ou, creating cries of port-begging which just generates more attention.
Yet....part of the hype would be fake since SIE would know Xbox was a planned platform from the get-go. So it makes all of that feel manipulative. And yes, I know a big part of marketing is to manipulate the perception of customers by tugging on emotions, but I'd feel a move like this with Tokon is manipulative on another level. The type where corporate greed for profits wants to hide behind language of an era when companies like SIE used to actually care about being competitive with genuine exclusivity. So now it's not just customer emotions getting manipulated, but also their wallets.
There's no point in withholding a Tokon Xbox announcement other than to manipulate preorder traffic to your own console (which makes less sense here because the game's Day 1 on Steam anyway, and a lot of the FGC prefer that and PC as a platform), and play off historical fan culture in gaming spaces. You can argue that any Xbox audience that'd be interested in the game would simply get it on PS5 or PC, but then the mere fact of porting Tokon to Xbox is a contradiction: the audience you'd be selling it to, would have already opted for PS5 or PC by the time you made the announcement!
All that said, such logical thinking didn't stop Helldivers 2 getting an Xbox version 18 months later, so I guess SIE feel there are many holdouts still on Xbox no matter what. Which in their eyes probably makes a Marvel Tokon Xbox announcement some months after reveal, make more sense. I just personally don't see the value in withholding that announcement at this point if you know you're gonna release the game over there anyway, other than to score temporary brownie points and roleplay a console exclusivity strategy you aren't actually committed to in practice.
GT7 is likely already near 14 million. Forza Motorsport died the same month it released. It didn't even chart NPD in its debut month.
The vacuum for an actually good sim racer on Xbox is as big as that for an open-world arcade racer apparently was on PlayStation. While I personally think bringing GT7 to Xbox would 100% be a signal that the older era of PlayStation is over (and a lot of good things fading away with that but, hey, "everybody deserves to play these games", that's what they say right? Like they were legally barred from buying the console or games in the past or discriminated from doing so
), it's one of the few ports that makes sense.
sachos
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From a business/competitor point of view, no way they are as stupid as to port their big AAA single player franchises right? Right?
I understand the GaaS argument (to a degree at least) but giving away their big single player IP seems so stupid given the current state of Xbox. Too little to gain, a lot to lose it seems to me.
I understand the GaaS argument (to a degree at least) but giving away their big single player IP seems so stupid given the current state of Xbox. Too little to gain, a lot to lose it seems to me.
JohnnyFootball
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WHat Xbots/trolls don't understand is that Playstation is a FAR FAR FAR greater part of Sony's life blood than Xbox is for Microsoft. Sony has FAR FAR FAR more to lose by devaluing their console. Sony needs that brand identity. Having exclusives is part of that identity.
The Xbox console could be completely dissolved tomorrow and it would have little effect on their bottom line.
Helldivers 2 legit puzzles me. The game is being ported at a time when there is arguably the least amount of interest in Xbox. At a time when it is weakened. When Final Fantasy pulled only what 22K? If you were going to put Helldivers 2 on xbox, it made more sense to put it on there on release.
Spiderman is the one game I would be least shocked if it were ported over, due to the Marvel licensing. The marvel IP isn't anywhere near as strong as it was 5 years ago, but Spiderman still holds consideable power.
adamsapple
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Well this disproves all the people in the thread who said he's just referring to announcements we already know about…
Adding to OP
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Kacho
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adamsapple
savoring this like its a $100 steak
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Seasoned with James's tears.
others aren't handling it as well
He got his thread privileges taken away at Icon? Wtf lol
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StreetsofBeige
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If ports devalue the brand, then why are they fully committed to PC ports and is slowly increasing their support for Nintendo and Xbox ports?
The reason they are however is because they want more money (as you said gaming is Sony's focus, in fact it's their biggest division by a mile), and porting is the easiest way to get sales with minimal effort (from what I've always read dev porting costs from PS to PC is supposed to be dirt cheap, so PS to Xbox will surely be too). They feel any brand impact are a non-issue. You can tell since PC ports have gone on for 5 years. It's not like ports are a new thing and they are testing it out for the first time for 3 months and might axe it. It's been 5 years of PC ports, Helldivers 2 for Xbox and even MLB has been on Xbox for 4 or 5 years.
What's going to happen is similar to PC. PC, they inched their way at the beginning and they unleashed a ton of ports asap. MLB is a non-issue because it sells so little to begin with. But if Helldivers 2 does well and has no negative on effect on PS5, they'll release more Xbox games. And same goes for Nintendo, but Switch is different because the target audience and system power dont really fit Sony's games which are more gritty and showcase games..... though maybe Sackboy or R&C kind of games might do ok. It would be weird to promote a new Nintendo port which is violent and goes backwards looking like a PS4 game.
It's all just a money thing. And if the money outweighs any brand or existing customers, then it's a green light.
No different than MS doing PS ports. They've been doing PC ports longer than PS, but same thing. Both console makers support PC and their home system. MS going PS because they want some high margin software sales. Sony wants to do the same with Xbox and Nintendo.
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I collect VHS tapes
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Banned at Era, banned here, thread privileges taken away at iconI season my wagyu steak with James's tears.
He got his thread privileges taken away at Icon? Wtf lol
Still has zero insights that he's the common denominator
It takes a special kind of person to be moderated so severely at so many wildly different boards
Kacho
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I collect VHS tapes
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Once they ban him, where will he go?Even his own people can't handle him
Isn't there some official Sony fanboy forum he can just join? Dude needs an echo chamber they everything is going great over at Sony or he loses his shit
Kacho
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He'll always have OA to fall back on. That's where you can get the full James Sawyer experience. The place sucks for game talk though, which is probably why he's posting on Sony Era.
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OA?
StreetsofBeige
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What an idiot. Even his sanctuary site doesn't even like him.Seasoned with James's tears.
He got his thread privileges taken away at Icon? Wtf lol
Anyone know what stupid threads or posts he did to get him thread making banned? Must had been so over the top even his mod buddies over there couldnt take it. LOL
HeisenbergFX4
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Kacho
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Long story. Don't worry about it.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
What's OA? Do I even want to know, lol
Kacho
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No. I shouldn't have even mentioned it.
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Part of me wants to believe it's somehow related to OF
HeisenbergFX4
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demigod
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I like how you cherry picked what you want others to see. Goodluck if you think they are going to release 8+ million non GaaS games on xbox.
StreetsofBeige
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And you thought the same before Sony unleashed all their big franchises (even including sequels already) on PC. And Helldivers 2 was a day one PC game.
So let's not pretend Sony doesnt do ports.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
demigod
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You wanna point that out champ or just like to make shit up?
HeisenbergFX4
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Now its GAAS and sub 8 million sales ONLY
No more
Don't make me dig up old post....
Oh shit
adamsapple
is on it
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Don't make me dig up old post....
Oh shit
adamsapple
is on it
demigod
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Yeah i was wrong about that, oh noes. Its a gaas game anyways.
How's your "only 4 games" doing?
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Now its GAAS and sub 8 million sales ONLY
No more
Don't make me dig up old post....
Oh shit
This whole thread is a goldmine. Lots of familiar names there that are awfully quite now.
Sony Is Allegedly In Preliminary Talks To Bring Helldivers 2 To Xbox Series X|S
Sony is allegedly in preliminary talks to bring Arrowhead Game Studios' cooperative third-person shooter, Helldivers 2, to Xbox Series X|S.
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demigod
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So which tentpole SP games are coming to xbox?Now its GAAS and sub 8 million sales ONLY
No more
Don't make me dig up old post....
Oh shit
I collect VHS tapes
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you were so confident tho
HeisenbergFX4
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And it got closedThis whole thread is a goldmine. Lots of familiar names there that are awfully quite now.
Sony Is Allegedly In Preliminary Talks To Bring Helldivers 2 To Xbox Series X|S
Sony is allegedly in preliminary talks to bring Arrowhead Game Studios' cooperative third-person shooter, Helldivers 2, to Xbox Series X|S.
And I can promise you this is only the beginning of what's to come
DenchDeckard
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I feel like you've been told something, you sly fox.
Why do i feel like somethings going to happen at gamescom.....
demigod
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I was about as confident as his 4 games only.
HeisenbergFX4
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I don't know the timeframe but there is an element that people seem to be glossing over and I personally haven't seen mentioned, not on these forums anyhow
SmurfMustard
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Now you're sounding like one of the four horsemen of the apocalypse. At least to some
StreetsofBeige
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Amazing goalpost moving.Now its GAAS and sub 8 million sales ONLY
No more
Don't make me dig up old post....
Oh shit
I've never seen someone who hates Sony porting to other platforms go into such detail.
Port haters have sure changed over the years.
First it was none, then a few, then no LoU/GoW bangers, then no day one. End result PC now has tons including day one H2.
And way back for Xbox/Switch it was none, then it's ok for MLB, then Lego Horizon is ok, then H2 is ok since it's GAAS, now it's anything GAAS or under 8M SP is ok?
the goalposts have moved so many times it's now in the parking lot.
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