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Us old people remember when gaming was great and have better taste maybe?Because they're old and antagonistic nostalgia afflicts every generation.

Us old people remember when gaming was great and have better taste maybe?Because they're old and antagonistic nostalgia afflicts every generation.
That's not even the same generationGaming today is nowhere near as good as the Gamecube/PS2/Xbox 360 generation
I should have added "&" to that, my badThat's not even the same generation
well pick one or the other it's the same thing, it's not as good, in my opinionThat's not even the same generation
Gaming today is nowhere near as good as the Gamecube/PS2/Xbox 360 generation
Of course it is in shit place, these days you wouldn't get a Simpson's Hit and Run, you can't even get a decent football/soccer game, there is next to no competition in the genre, you can't get decent arcade racers like Blur/Split Second/Motorstorm/Project Gotham 4 anymore, even the tennis genre has hardly anything going for it....big franchises are all but dead: Alone in the Dark, Halo, Mass Effect, Guardians of the Galaxy, Republic Commando, Deus Ex...Dreamcast and OGX will always be dear to me, and alot of my alot time great games are from that era.
PS360 had the year 2007 so i mean......kinda hard to compare.
But gaming isnt in a shit place......at any one time you have banger titles to get through even just this year has already given us some games that might sneak their way into my all time greats (Exp33).
People act like they have nothing to play, but titles are plentiful and great titles at that......
How much do you get paid for your asinine posts?
People have standards, if i went to shop for groceries and 85% of them where rotten i would never step into the store again.
Same applies to game, but no we should suck it up and think of the devs jobs!!! its the only god damn profession where people can skate by and deliver shit constantly.
Unoptimized shit games made by 500 outsourced unskilled cheap workers that watched an indian ue5 tutorial on youtube, unreal eninge samey looking games that renders at 720p and you have to use framegen on high end hardware. i would accept it if the game where actually fun, but no they flat out suck compared to games released 10-20 years ago.
Of course it is in shit place, these days you wouldn't get a Simpson's Hit and Run, you can't even get a decent football/soccer game, there is next to no competition in the genre, you can't get decent arcade racers like Blur/Split Second/Motorstorm/Project Gotham 4 anymore, even the tennis genre has hardly anything going for it....big franchises are all but dead: Alone in the Dark, Halo, Mass Effect, Guardians of the Galaxy, Republic Commando, Deus Ex...
The problem is, that now games are taking a lot longer to come out than before, and then when they do and if they flop then that all but ends the franchise for the foreseeable future, case in point, look at how quite regularly James Bond games came out between 2000- 2011, not much gap between the various entries, with this latest Bond game, it's taking years to release, and if it flops, or doesn't meet expectations, it'll end up like Dead Space...Alone in the Dark came out, flopped, and now we are unlikely to get a new entry for decades...The tennis genre is totally dead, and the spiritual successor to Top Spin, also had a stupid idea of having to be constantly connected to a server in order to play the game, if you aren't then you are effectively locked out of the game....Soccer games, aren't exactly thriving either....Konami threw in the PES towel, and let EA/FIFA have their own way, and now you can't even get a decent PES entry currently.....the game from the makers of SIFU-Rematch, might have been the answer to a decent soccer game, but then you find out it is multiplayer only...I dont know what you mean about games like Hit and Run.....small tongue in cheek games? You think they stopped existing?
Arcade Racers?
Did Forza Horizon die.
Wreckfest 2 is on the horizon
Mario kart just launched.
Tokyo Extreme is in EA right now, go support it if you want to show devs you care.
Formula Legends
Hot Wheels Unleashed and 2(hopefully it did enough to get a third game)
Sonic Crossworlds
Fatal Run
Overjump Rally
They exist.....you just arent looking and or dont care, so when they fail, the devs stop trying.
OnRush, Blur and Split/Second were made....people didnt buy them, so clearly arcade racers needed to downscale their costs of production......so we have a beavy of Arcade Racers with smaller budgets so that its still a viable genre.
Its not the industry that abandoned big budget arcade racers.....its gamers who did.
To you other point:
A new Alone in the Dark came out last year?
A new Halo is in the works....Infinte wasnt even bad, the MP was/is solid but its more Halo and Halo isnt the same MP powerhouse it used to be. I actually liked the campaign and hopefully they dont reboot the series and we get to keep following on from that ending.
A new Mass Effect is in the works, with the knowledge of what failed in Andromeda. Fingers crossed.
I dunno about Guardians of the Galaxy, I didnt even know it was series of videogames.
The last game was good......but again people didnt buy it.
Hopefully we get another Deus Ex game if Embracer sees that people are clamoring for more games like that, Human Revolution and Mankind Divided sold like 12 million......only SquareEnix would look at that and not immediately greenlight another project.
With the money CDE is getting from Microsoft for Perfect Dark, Grounded 2 and Fable hopefully the studios will have earned enough to atleast get their own projects, Crystal gets to make another Tomb Raider, Eidos should be allowed to make another Deus Ex.
As for Football games......whose fault is it that a monopoly came about with FIFA.......well the FIFA name is no longer with EA so maybe the new FIFA game will be more up your ally and will give real competition to what is now known as EAFC.
Tennis games......the last time I played a Tennis game was Virtua Tennis, i figured they were still making them, they just arent on my radar, are they dead?
Republic Commando, I take it you mean Star Wars Republic Commando? I think everyone would love more of that, with the love the Clone Wars, Bad Batch and Battlefront get, its totally possible they make another game as a spiritual successor.
Pitch it.
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Because they have no idea what are they talking about.Gaming today is more versatile & complete than it has ever been so why is there people crying about the state of the industry?
Us old people remember when gaming was great and have better taste maybe?
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Because they have no idea what are they talking about.
- There's little to no new AAA IP
- sequels take 4-5 years to make instead of 2-3 years
- games barely have any free unlockable content like costumes and every fun extra is nickle and dimed. (Stellar Blade/new Mario Kart are exceptions)
- entire genres have disappeared for the most part at the AA-AAA level (arcade racers, extreme sports, platformers, stealth games, RTS)
- classic franchises like Mortal Kombat and Dragon Age have been ruined by western politics and progressive types who make the lamest shit ever.
- personal opinion here, but wayyyyy too many open world games with rpg elements and stat trees, instead of linear, action based games. From Soft is great, but way too many games just ape them now.
- another personal opinion: character designs fucking suck now. I think the last great new character designs we got were 2B and Overwatch's base roster. Nearly a decade ago.
I believe that it's mental health issues involved where people feel that everything should be about them & them alone.
Should I use small one's ?Funny hearing that from a poster who's infamous for quoting himself using giant screenshots.
I agree with this, the majority of these games' issues stem from the quality of the games themselves (content/writing). But I still can't help but feel like the people making these games nowadays are just lame compared to the OG 90s creatives.I agree with a lot of your takes.
I'm going to disagree a bit with "Western politics and progressive types".
MK1 just sucks because it sucks. Barebones, boring single player content, ruined storyline, and a clunky kameo system, with the amazing customization options from MK11 ruined in favor of very expensive microtransactions. Yes, they've made conscious decisions in MK11 to avoid showing a lot of skin - it's evident they did, but it didn't ruin anything about the game. I would argue that Skarlet and Jade both benefitted from it.
Dragon Age sucks because it has terrible writing and they've pushed so far away from what made DA:O an incredible game. It's one of the most tragic declines in any gaming franchise. I watched "the scene", and it's just trash writing. I don't like using the word cringe, but I cringed. If you compare that to Car Seat Headrest's song "Lady Gay Approximately" which to me sounds like a song about a family dealing with a trans and/or furry person, but it's incredibly well written in the style of a 70s folk song. It hits the right musical climaxes, and it hits these perceptible moments of tension and I really enjoy the effort they put into it. I don't have to be a trans person or a furry to find engagement from that subject in the same way that I don't have to be a drug dealer or have cancer to watch Breaking Bad. The content doesn't matter - it's the delivery.
Character design: Thinking about this, I really like your picks on 2b and Overwatch, but we also live in a land of nonstop sequels. D'Vorah in MK is an awesome design. Guilty Gear has introduced some pretty good new character designs like Goldlewis Dickinson, Nagoriyuki, and Happy Chaos. Leroy Smith and Victor from Tekken 8 are great designs too. Emet Selch from FFXIV ended up becoming an incredible character because of great writing more than design, and most of the FFXVI cast and supporting characters were good too. I think this might be a consequence of a lack of new properties.
Edit: Corrected Skarlet's spelling.
I believe that it's mental health issues involved where people feel that everything should be about them & them alone.
This is such a dumbass first paragraph to try to argue your point. But, par for the course, I guess. You put out more slop than Ubisoft.I believe that it's mental health issues involved where people feel that everything should be about them & them alone.
Coming from someone who self-quotes posts from years ago in irrelevant topics.
My man, you don't even see the irony there![]()
I see the iron knee in this comment but now that you all are back from your meeting , what's the plan?
Act like I said something to hurt your feelings & run to the mods?![]()
Us old people remember when gaming was great and have better taste maybe?
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Man, remember when even big publishers would be connected to creative and innovative games? That was wild. Now everything just feels safe. The big studios hardly even take risks anymore.I remember the days when there was little doubt that if a game was made by Activision, EA or Ubisoft that it was probably a really good game. These days, I look at all those publishers sideways.
I do agree, however, with those who are pointing to AA games. Clearly there are alternatives to the traditional publishers out there and that is a good thing, but nothing wrong with folks who wish the franchises they used to enjoy were still good.
Nah.....just difference of opinion.
Definitely. And don't forget the EA BIG era. SSX and NBA Street were so good.Man, remember when even big publishers would be connected to creative and innovative games? That was wild. Now everything just feels safe. The big studios hardly even take risks anymore.
It's insane how unique EA used to be, good too! From Road Rash to General Chaos to Haunting to Desert Strike. Man, what a time. I swear so many forms of entertainment just feel creatively bankrupt these days.
It's wild, I know it's probably like that for a lot of folks as they grow up and watch things change. But it's so hard to not feel like what I experienced was the peak of so many forms of entertainment. Movies, cartoons, music, video games, etc. Especially compared to what exists now, or in some cases, no longer exists at all. Man, I still miss arcades so much, lol.Because back in my day, things were better.
In 2007 everyone was complaining about the price of the PS3, grey/brown dudebro games on the X360 and the Wii graphics.![]()
Google video games from 2007 and tell me this man isn't 100% correct.
Games were objectively better back then.
And you can say that about dozens of years. 1998, 2000, 2002, 2004, 2009, 2011, 2013, etc. Its a VERY long list
Ubisoft just released new free content for AC Shadows and they are still adding new things for Star Wars Outlaws but Neogaf will pretend this isn't happening.And instead of coming back stronger, they moan about all the hard work they put in, how proud they are of the product and how much abuse they've had to put up with.
I agree with this, the majority of these games' issues stem from the quality of the games themselves (content/writing). But I still can't help but feel like the people making these games nowadays are just lame compared to the OG 90s creatives.
Like for Mortal Kombat in the 90s/00s, I just imagine back then, it was just a bunch of nerds and tatted up dudes making characters they thought looked badass or sexy, no fucks given. Now it's like "hmmm is this appropriate. Is this too revealing. Is this cultural appropriation. Is this too much of a stereotype. Can we make this character not white. Does this test well with focus groups."
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Like why even do this to Raiden. ^^^
Dragon Age, can't speak on it, have only watched "the scene" as well. But yeah you're right, the issue is largely the writing itself. Though some of the dialogue really felt like it lecturing, scolding and talking down to the player regarding trans matters and was pushing the lead/director's agenda.
And just to frame where I'm coming from a bit, because I feel like I have to after making this post. I consider myself center-left and vote liberal lol.
edit: for your last point, I like your choices of new characters like Leroy, Nago, etc. You're right that some new ones show up in established series, but that lack of new IP really limits the opportunity for new chars.
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Google video games from 2007 and tell me this man isn't 100% correct.
Games were objectively better back then.
And you can say that about dozens of years. 1998, 2000, 2002, 2004, 2009, 2011, 2013, etc. Its a VERY long list