right, and that's the point about having the right price points, marketing, and not letting go of that fanbase. nintendo had the 'casual' market right through wii sports resort and nsmbw, but they did nothing to satisfy them four years running, so they left. the same is true of the ds and 3ds. they made nintendogs in 2005 and did nothing to give that fanbase anything else for six years.
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right, and that's the point about having the right price points, marketing, and not letting go of that fanbase. nintendo had the 'casual' market right through wii sports resort and nsmbw, but they did nothing to satisfy them four years running, so they left. the same is true of the ds and 3ds. they made nintendogs in 2005 and did nothing to give that fanbase anything else for six years.
ViperVisor
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Gamecube was still back in the memory card days and those 59 and 251 were needed by the handful if you didn't have a 1019.
Those and controllers were probably easy money.
And needed a lot of controllers with the multi-player madness of Super Smash, Mario Kart and Mario Party.
Those and controllers were probably easy money.
And needed a lot of controllers with the multi-player madness of Super Smash, Mario Kart and Mario Party.
Well you know that Wii was a gamecube in disguise?
So it makes it quite profitable actually !
My guess is another year or two since people still seem to think the 3DS needs saving.
So you are still making assumptions. You don't know if the GC overall was profitable (which was) but you like to think it wasn't and you have to convince yourself.
Gamecube sold more than 200 million games and I'm sure a lot of those sales were from Nintendo. But they didn't make any profit from them either. In fact, they were done in the long run.
it's doing well in japan, but it needs a price drop in the west on the hardware and software front. $170 for a handheld is ridiculous.
Chinpoko_Master
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That's weird. It's almost as if you were replying to something I actually said.
Gormless Noodle
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See other post-
You can say that with any fanboy, not just Nintendo
ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
I don't understand this post.
LBTRecords
Banned
No. Just no. How can you make that assumption? Families are the most beneficial to Nintendo because the children will be potential future customers once they start making their own funds. I was raised with Nintendo because my parents bought it for me. Guess what? I now personally purchased every Nintendo hardware since DS. Your theory is off.
As well as the rest of your statements in this thread. You seem to be on a mission to bad mouth Nintendo, you and your partner. I hardly post but it was so obvious I had to call it out.
i think i'll need some clarification. are you calling arthands or bloomberg a nintendo fanboy? because i know that you wouldn't have knowingly come into a sales (and stocks) thread about sales to ridicule people talking about sales. also, were you aware that every chart posted in this thread so far have been demonstrating nintendo's decline, or were you just taking a stab at it?
I don't get it. Everyone but Nintendo fanboy is posting charts in this thread.
What?
Clairvoyance
Member
It would probably help if what you said made some sense.
That's what ignore list is for. Keeps Nintendo threads' sanity at regular levels. Hopefully someday will work also for the quotes.
Nintendo has this year one of the strongest line-up of games in their recent history. It should bring some hope for the shareholders. I mean if you don't believe in the value of the Nintendo IPs why would you be a shareholder in the first place
great, is this some new thing people are going to attribute to the "Nintendo Fan"? i've heard it twice in the past few days already. the things people will make up in order to invalidate the opinions of others is mindboggling. we're in a sales thread about nintendo, talking about nintendo sales data should be expected. the fanboy part is in your head
Clairvoyance
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3DS
Gamer @ Heart
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You should think before you post if you plan to stick around.
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The Everyman
So only 3ds sales have grown thus far? Ok, that makes more sense to me.
IncandescentPrecept
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Isn't 3DS sales lower this year compared to the last?
Principate
Saint Titanfall
I think it still is but last month in NPD it beat it quite handily YoY and with Pokémon and last Christmas sales being relatively poor (which is where the lionshare of the sales comes from), there's a more than decent chance it'll beat it quite handily.
The funnest thing was I saw trading pokemon cards on coach before. It's been at least 10 years I shocked some kids still do that.
LiberaTeExInferis
Member
Guys, off topic but kind of related..
Just saw this rumor that Nintendo is planning on buying Atlus...
Has this been discussed or not?
http://www.idigitaltimes.com/articl...bankruptcy-nintendo-persona-5-acquisition.htm
Just saw this rumor that Nintendo is planning on buying Atlus...
Has this been discussed or not?
http://www.idigitaltimes.com/articl...bankruptcy-nintendo-persona-5-acquisition.htm
Besides Pokemon, the end of the year is full of titles that should reinforce 3DS as a must have for any kid this Christmas: Inazuma eleven 3, Skylanders, Disney Infinity, Sonic: Lost Word, Mario Party, Yoshi's New Island, etc.
And two games have high chances of attracting an older audience, I can see lots of non 3DS owners finally fall for these ones (anecdotal evidence, my brother): The Legend of Zelda : A Link Between Worlds, and Bravery Default.
That would be really great.
not really a rumor. more like that the writer of the article's guess. the reasoning is, 'well trauma center did well, nintendo's making a game with them, and they had a discount thing on the e-shop!!' which ignores a ton of other factors both for and against nintendo acquiring atlus. i wouldn't put any stock into it.
linko9
Member
That's not a rumor, that pure uninformed speculation.
Bullshit.
Probably the writer taking a guess as to whether or not Nintendo will buy them. However, if they did, the internet would explode. The drama would be worth it.
DICKS AHOY
Banned
I ultimately wouldn't care either way since I'll wind up with both a Wii U and PS4 by the end of next year, but wouldn't it make way more sense for Atlus to go to Sony since that's where most of their audience is? The SMT/FE:A sales deal for instance seems like a really tenuous link that's there more due to SMTXFE coming out next year.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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Dont bring this in here plz, tthe thread will warp
AdventureRacing
Member
Fair enough. I don't know either way and i'm willing to accept that the GC was at least somewhat profitable.
This however isn't true in anyway. Just because something makes money doesn't mean it isn't a failure.
If you aren't interested in sales data why are you in this thread?
LiberaTeExInferis
Member
I think it is more like somebody's wet dream..
What I find more interesting is the mention that IS worked close enough with Atlus for the latest Fire Emblem..
Edit:Yes it is pure speculation.Maybe just remove it?
StreetsAhead
Member
Maybe stock went up because investors heard of a plan to buy Atlus, though???
Sorry, couldn't help myself. As awesome as the internet rage would be, I just don't see it happening.
LiberaTeExInferis
Member
there's not really a precedence for nintendo just picking up companies like that. they're really cautious. usually they just pick out the good talent and bring them in internally when shakeups from competitors happen. i'll believe it when i see it, but i'm sure this has been discussed quite a lot in the thread about the initial fraud. nintendo has obviously been working closely with them lately.
Yeah sure and Pokemon Conquest does either not exist or they are buying Koei too.
LiberaTeExInferis
Member
Yes, that makes sense.
But, the acquisition of MonolithSoft was out of the blue right?
So, that leaves space for an out of the blue movement, but I suppose that the financial difference would be huge.You dont buy a company, with the same money you would spend for a studio..
No it wouldn't, keep them multiplatform so that anyone can play their games, they're doing fine as they are (regarding platforms)
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Deleted member 231381
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I don't understand the violent hate Nintendo gets in these threads. People are taking pleasure in how bad their situation has become for some reason, and are determined to see them do badly. I think it's a result of the fact that blatant pro-fanboy is has been (sort of) stamped out, so the safer territory is trying to be an anti-fanboy and demean the other companies while hiding it under the label of 'realism'. It's just kind of sad, really.
Psycho_Mantis
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This is their reasoning:
1) SMT4 sold well
2) Nintendo have a good relationship with them (presumably FExSMT adding to that)
Pure speculation.
I can make the same point about Sony:
1) P4G sold well
2) Sony have a good relationship with them
OMG Sony are buying Atlus......
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I really like the fact that you used "we"...
You are Nintendo, right?
Just lovely customers.
Not to derail or anything, but regardless of who bought them (Sony, Nintendo, etc.) people would still be able to play their games. They would just be on one particular platform.
I don't understand this argument, either, because if we want to play Persona games we need to buy a Playstation. That's not "anyone can play their games".