ST2K
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Alright, thanks. I think I'll continue to avoid it then.
...Hope Persona 5 shows up soon. I would love to dive into a new Persona game.
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Alright, thanks. I think I'll continue to avoid it then.
...Hope Persona 5 shows up soon. I would love to dive into a new Persona game.
I need these so bad.
buddha0991
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Have you played Devil Survivor 2? It has elements of social links in it, and those who don't play 1 first, might not be as disappointing in the game as I was, the game itself is solid.
ST2K
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I have not. I've avoided the more mainline SMT games for a variety of reasons, but I'll check it out if DS2 is different.
buddha0991
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DS2 is not mainline, only SMT 1, 2, Nocturne, Strange Journey, and 4 are mainline. What are the reasons you are avoiding mainline btw?
Well now, so many new wallpapers.
Hard to say who I feel worse for, Tatsuya or the 3 MC. Then again, I REALLY need to get through EP. Maybe that's next after Apollo, finally.
buddha0991
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Well now, so many new wallpapers.
Hard to say who I feel worse for, Tatsuya or the 3 MC. Then again, I REALLY need to get through EP. Maybe that's next after Apollo, finally.
The Pierced Boy and Yu Narukami are lucky bastards, ill tell you what.
Hey guys, just a quick question. I'm about to start Persona 2 on the PSP and wondering about the endings. In the original Persona, multiple dialogue choices through the whole game determined your ending, whereas P3 and 4 are just towards the end. So I was just wondering, is P2 the same as P1? Just want to make sure I don't end up getting a bad ending cus I said the wrong thing 2 mins into the game. Thanks.
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buddha0991
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Don't worry, P2IS and P2EP only have one ending each.
buddha0991
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the Chibi demons thing came from the SMTIV topic, a while ago I think.
So I missed the boat?
Story of my life lol.
#lewd
Ah, thanks, that's cool. Hate it when RPGs do the ending based on decisions through the game, rather than a throwaway choice at the end.
cj_iwakura
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Wow, that sucks. Were fans of the game angry? He was
killed, unceremoniously for no reason
cj_iwakura
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I doubt it, there wasn't the sentimental attachment to those characters the likes of which you see with modern JRPGs.
#UltraLewd
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Here's another one up for auction!
#IveSeenLewder #AndMuchMoreEntertaining
I have one of these too!
NICE! I was super happy to find not only a Persona 4 related shirt, but an official Golden one!
SatelliteOfLove
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P2 should be endured (I used that word, yes, the combat and tarot system is junky); as you can see by my recent posts on here, both P2s stories and characters are some of the best ever in RPGs. Harsh, thoughtful, weighty, poinient, and more than a bit crazy.
And mainline SMT savagely beats it out of you the instant you even ponder the idea. It's great!
I couldn't agree with you more, both of P2's endings are among my favorite RPG endings of all time.
That EP ending in particular was a thought provoker, I still can't stop thinking about it!
0_o
Hecatonchires Custom
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Combat system is pretty much like a standard turn based system except that you pick which character goes first and watch the turns unfold ; turns are then lined up based on the AGI stat if you don't intervene and modify which spells are used and when.
I'll admit that it's a bit confusing at first but it's far from making the game unplayable.
It unquestionably has the best story of the series. It's largely an issue of the tarot card system being needlessly obtuse and the issue of difficulty in the Innocent Sin PSP port. That, and the fact that we didn't get Eternal Punishment PSP...
When I played through EP, my team tended to hover around a level that was lower than most demons, so I still ran into a lot of demons during my journey.
I won't deny the usefulness of Estoma though.
Wishes he had "The Paradox" as his CT
Had Estoma, never used it in IS as I liked the battle system. Just set turn order outside of battle for correct Fusion spell usage, and instantly kill most fights anyway. Plus watching bars fill is always enjoyable.
...will probably need Estoma for EP because of the turn order resetting thing. Yes I will keep mentioning, cause it's still horrible.
...will probably need Estoma for EP because of the turn order resetting thing. Yes I will keep mentioning, cause it's still horrible.
Endured is an understatement. P2 IS has some interesting and inventive concepts, certainly for a mid 90s jrpg, but man so many of the underlying progression systems require far too much patience, experimentation, and some luck. I've gotten no satisfaction out of anything gameplay related, and the curiosity about the narrative adoration is the only thing keeping me pushing through this messy game.
I want to chuck my vita across the room everytime a pact closes because the randomization of demon questions can really fuck with your tarot grinding, which is such a tedious chore as is.
Then again the remake is easy enough that even the story play guide tips feels like overkill. Fusion aoe attacks help keep the pacing somewhat bearable tho...barely.
Really debating actually playing eternal punishment or just watching a lets play run to see the story unfold after I finish IS. Not at all sure I can stomach 30-50 more hours of this gameplay structure, especially without remake enhancements.
I want to chuck my vita across the room everytime a pact closes because the randomization of demon questions can really fuck with your tarot grinding, which is such a tedious chore as is.
Then again the remake is easy enough that even the story play guide tips feels like overkill. Fusion aoe attacks help keep the pacing somewhat bearable tho...barely.
Really debating actually playing eternal punishment or just watching a lets play run to see the story unfold after I finish IS. Not at all sure I can stomach 30-50 more hours of this gameplay structure, especially without remake enhancements.
ST2K
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...Didn't FES add Personas and tweak Social Links and such in the original game? How did they work that out with a second separate disc?
In Japan some games had expansion packs in the form of "append discs." They acted kinda like a Pro Action Replay or Gameshark in a sense. You'd stick the append disc in and it'd ask you for the original after loading the new content. This technology only existed on Japanese models however.
Persona 3 FES was released as an append disc in Japan, and a full version with everything appended on came a bit later. In the US obviously we only got the full version.
I think only around ten games total used the technology, and most of them are rather insignificant.
buddha0991
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Had Estoma, never used it in IS as I liked the battle system. Just set turn order outside of battle for correct Fusion spell usage, and instantly kill most fights anyway. Plus watching bars fill is always enjoyable.
...will probably need Estoma for EP because of the turn order resetting thing. Yes I will keep mentioning, cause it's still horrible.
I STILL cant get why its a big deal. I played P2EP for hours got to like the middle of the game, and I dont see the turn reset issue.
I didn't even notice it until you guys brought it up.
The EP battle system UI is a lot better imo, it's really easy to set up strats or fusion spells.
ST2K
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Interesting. You learn something new every day.
Regardless, it's still disappointing they've modified/expanded/whatever that game twice and there isn't a definitive version.
buddha0991
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Exactly, and EPP copied the EP battle UI instead of the ISP one.
I didn't mind the random encounter rate of IS at all, because fights rarely lasted more than literally 10 seconds, counting the experience screen. Go in a battle, everyone's turn order is already set how I need it to be, auto-battle, win(since I can also set what spells for everyone to use outside battle), back to exploring. In EP to accomplish the same thing, I have to spend at least 15 seconds in every battle setting the turn order first, then more for abilities. Then if the turn doesn't finish the battle, for round 2 I have to do it all over again. Suddenly the encounter rate hurts, and hurts hard, because it adds a whole lot of repetition and time to a game system that didn't have it in IS PSP.
I'm not going to lie when I say it's the main thing blocking my desire to pick it up again. I feel like I did when I tried getting through Persona 1 when I think about booting the game up again.
Hecatonchires Custom
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You don't need to adjust turn order if you simply select a fusion spell from the menu and let the battle start. The fusion spell will be queue'd first and you'll wipe the enemy party almost instantly with the animations turned off.
If you don't have a multihit fusion spell, you can just let the battle go anyway and characters will use the same actions they did in the last battle. Adjusting their turns does nothing to help you clean up a mob anyway.
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