AuthenticM
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Reggie confirmed for Spike VGX appearance [Up: "new look at an upcoming Wii U game"]
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Barry Burton
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Poor DK, that's a lot of people.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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It doesn't officially but I'd say that rules out Zelda.
TheCongressman1
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Of course they don't owe us anything, but don't expect me to get excited about things that don't interest me just because it's new. If they want my time and money, they should show things that I'll get excited about.
Nintendo isn't some benevolent game giving fairy, they sell products. I can express my displeasure as much as I want considering they are trying to obtain my money.
Except that the fact that the Smash thread being constantly on page 1 since its inception speaks highly of the fans' anticipation - just read their posts; yeah, they are Smash maniacs now and then, but all in all they are super excited for the title which is the best thing Sakurai can ask for
A character reveal in a Nintendo Direct video would be nice, a character reveal on a big stage shared with many good developers would be embarrassing
It really depends on when Zelda is coming tbqh.
Is it possible that it'll be both? Why are we so hung up that we're only getting one thing. Could be DKCR trailer + new Smash footage.
Freezie KO
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I get confused when people voice their desires on a discussion forum, and people read that as entitlement.
Nintendo can do whatever they want, but it's probably best if we help them out and let them know what we'll buy. After all, we're the only ones still paying attention.
TheSpaceBetween
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And THIS is why so many have left Retro to begin with. It's a miracle that the quality of product they produce has not diminished.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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Tell that to Yoshi's Island 2 and the upcoming 3DS game.
Uuhhh companies EXIST for the consumer, so they can make money. The most important thing a business can have is loyalty. Where the fuck do people with this mentality that the customer is not close to 100% right come from?
Broken Joystick
At least you can talk. Who are you?
I swear to god if it's the Cranky Kong reveal, Reggie...
Eh, that's the major problem. I don't doubt the hypotetic footage from Cranky Kong reveal trailer will be great, and the game looks great, but Donkey Kong can't be shown at an event like VGX, especially in the current Wii U state. Bayonetta 2? Perfect. X? Fantastic. Smash Bros.? Great. Donkey Kong? Unfortunately, nope.
Why do people like us understand this, but not who directly works at Nintendo (NCL, NOA, whoever decides such initiatives)?
Seriously, the more time passes, the more the fact that I'd really, really want to speak to them about my ideas becomes a sort of a need, because I see them as a dead-man-walking on the home front, I'm worried about the future, and I'm fuc*ing sure my opinion would heavily help and be better than what some of the BoDs over there thinks. It's highly irrational, but I seriously want to do fucking something concrete, and not just whining about it on forums and watching them making the same mistakes again, and again, and again...and again, and again...and again, without having the possibility to share with them what I think could be better ideas / strategies.
...Sorry for the little rant, but, recently, I'm feeling much less subjective to this industry, look at how I reacted in the PAL thread about Guardian not giving us shares anymore right during One and PS4 launches, and this is even more evident in Nintendo's case, since I'm a Nintendo fan.. Sorry again.
...Sorry for the little rant, but, recently, I'm feeling much less subjective to this industry, look at how I reacted in the PAL thread about Guardian not giving us shares anymore right during One and PS4 launches, and this is even more evident in Nintendo's case, since I'm a Nintendo fan.. Sorry again.
I agree with you about Smash but there's no stage this year I think so they won't really be embarrassing themselves in front of anyone but gamers.
I would have preferred Nintendo showing off some of the lesser known games such as X or to unveil the new Legend of Zelda title but that's not happening.
Technically, yeah, since they didn't really reveal it. I don't think the tech demo counts as a reveal.
ViewtifulJC
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Maybe we should close this thread down then. Everybody just shut up and have no kind of expectations whatsoever! Get ready to applaud anything the big video game company decides to give out to us commoners.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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A new Mario Kart 8 trailer would make me happy.
I think he's talking about people who want companies do what they want over what other consumers are interested in and see anything else as the company offending them.
ShockingAlberto
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Do not do this.
What????
Do people actually think that the millions of people that bought DKC on Wii, were actually aware that the game was made by Retro before they bought it? Do people really think no other internal studio could have done just as good a job or better? They needed Retro to fill the void in their line-up on their new console, that no other 1st party studio could fill. Instead, they let them do another DKC game, a genre which at least 2 other internal studio's have more experience with and would likely do at the very least, just as good. It's like Jungle Beat never happened. And that game should have made something clear: Donkey Kong isn't a platform seller.
I think the main point from most of the posters in this thread is that the consumers watching this show will not give a crap about Donkey Kong.
TheSpaceBetween
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I'm sure people at NOA realize exactly what you are saying. It's probably just a matter of the higher ups not seeing it that way.
Playable Link costume and Ganon side boss.
What? Some of the Ridley speculation is fantastic
spyroflame0487
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I think the problem with the new smash site is that every day we got something new. A new character, a moveset, stage, item, etc.
Currently we have a lot of characters, some stages and a handful of items. Other than that, there's quite a bit of the game that Sakurai hasn't pulled back and revealed.
Sad but true. Sure DKCR outsold all Prime games combined, but it sold ~5 million WW on a system that had a rather large install base already. It's definitely not a system seller. What makes people think showing DKC in any way will appeal to this audience.
(Note: I do not think DKC is what they're going to end up showing)
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Deleted member 125677
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I don't believe most people are negative towards Donkey Kong CTF in itself ITT, it's probably more the idea of introducing a new character for it at the show as "the big announcement" so many is hoping for that makes people a bit salty
I fucking love DKCR and am super hyped for TF, but even I see how Cranky could fail to deliever to what the fans hope for
Then again fans would be piased no matter what they showed, unless maybe if it was Zelda or a Metroid bomb
all this is cool and all but Retro wanted to make a sequel. They wanted to make it and Nintendo allowed them to. What is the big deal here?
A new look...
New art style.. maybe?
That was a tech demo, not a game.
All they are doing is making a sequel to a game that was popular a lot of people liked. Nintendo's other studios should be the ones making games in other genres right now.
ShockingAlberto
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Consumers watching this show do not give a crap about Nintendo, period.
I think the whole thing is a demographic mismatch. Nothing they could show would rouse the interest of anyone who was not specifically watching for it.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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That's what happens when you hand off key franchises to any development team, not difficult to understand.
POWERSPHERE
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Not as much as themselves
Which is why it's especially odd that they chose this year, of all years, to finally attend VGX.
As a common poster and reader of that thread, I wish it was mostly Ridley speculation. It's mostly silliness and pointless crap. There are occasional good posts, but aren't very common at all.
If it's Cranky Kong only, something is seriously WRONG at NoA. I actually wanted to make a topic asking this, but I may as well ask here.
Has anyone on GAF or does anyone know of someone who has closely worked with NoA and their marketting in any way? What is their thought process? What is wrong with them? At this point I am truly concerned. Glass Door doesn't reveal much on the higher end of things.
Has anyone on GAF or does anyone know of someone who has closely worked with NoA and their marketting in any way? What is their thought process? What is wrong with them? At this point I am truly concerned. Glass Door doesn't reveal much on the higher end of things.
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Macapala
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C'mon, DKCR is one of the most well designed side scrolling platformers ever. To say Retro are wasting their talent on a sequel is ridiculous. If people don't like DK then that's fine, but don't say Retro are wasting their time with Tropical Freeze.
Either that was PR bullshit and they were being loyal with that answer or they were telling the truth and Nintendo should have said "no". Do you really think all those other studio's can just decide on their own what games they will be making?
See my previous post (last post previous page (50ppp))
TheSpaceBetween
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I think this, yes. DKCR was a breath of fresh air for Nintendo's 2D platformers. They did a better job on their first crack at this genre than the veterans of the genre at EAD who keep using the same old tired designs for 2D Mario. There is no other team I would trust with this sequel.
Shalashaska161
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I'd say Smash would still fit. It's a bit out of place but that's a series that the average 20 something demographic who watches this event still cares about, at least a little bit.
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Deleted member 125677
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I think he was talking about your use of semi-colon; some people don't like it.
I think a lot of the people watching aren't currently interested in the Wii U but if you show a game that's legitimately good its decent press either way and certain games could tempt people to get one by the end of next year or something depending on a lot of things.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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Why should Nintendo have said "no"???
To make them create a hardcore game that will sell much less???
I can picture how the conversation went down
Nintendo Execs: "How do you guys feel about working on a sequel to DKCR?"
Retro Peeps: (nervously) "We would love that."
Iwata: (laughs)
1| Yoshi's Story
2| We've not seen enough of the new Yoshi title to judge it, particularly when their last title was very good
3| You have named an excess of 2D platformers which proves my point further.
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