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Dualsense is a Scam

Cyberpunkd said:
I was thinking you have a PS5 and are kinda stuck with Dualsense, but that's not the case. Why do you continue to reward Sony shit products instead of getting one of many Hall sticks controllers that are also less expensive?
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I really like the Dualsense as a controller that's why I've been buying new ones, because I feel very comfortable playing with it. But yes, it seems like its time to move on from this controller because it's not worth the headache
 
Gonzito said:
I really like the Dualsense as a controller that's why I've been buying new ones, because I feel very comfortable playing with it. But yes, it seems like its time to move on from this controller because it's not worth the headache
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If you are going to keep replacing your Dualsense anyway, you might as well get an Edge. As shitty as it is to have to buy a premium controller to get around stick drift, it's a significantly better controller than the standard one and when the sticks eventually drift, which they probably will, you can just swap them out.
 
Papito, why would you use 1st party controller on a PC? It's long know that they are designed to fail, like you said: a scam. Get something like 8BitDo Ultimate 2. The difference is night and day.
 
If you are on pc, just buy a gamesir controller with hall effect sticks and triggers, the dual sense has always been trash full of gimmicks.

Xbox official controllers aren't much better, they were good during the x360 era but now they break so easily.
 
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MidGenRefresh said:
Papito, why would you use 1st party controller on a PC? It's long know that they are designed to fail, like you said: a scam. Get something like 8BitDo Ultimate 2. The difference is night and day.
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Well like I said to another user I actually enjoy playing with Dualsense, it feels really comfortable so that's the reason I've been using them. That being said I will go and buy today the controller you just mentioned. It costs 60 euros which is even cheaper than Dualsense (75 euros). I just hope that the quality is good and that I feel comfortable playing with it
 
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Gonzito said:
Well like I said to another user I actually enjoy playing with Dualsense, it feels really comfortable so that's the reason I've been using them. That being said I will go and buy today the controller you just mentioned. It costs 60 euros which is even cheaper than Dualsense (75 euros). I just hope that the quality is good and that I feel comfortable playing with it
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The quality is great and I'm sure you will appreciate it. Let us know your thoughts once you pick it up.
 
I think the Dualsense is one of the best controllers I've ever used, but this stick drift shit is embarrassing for a company that specializes in building hardware.

It's planned obsolescence, I have no doubt. Completely shitty move.
 
Gonzito said:
This is my fourth controller and now I will have to buy a new one because it's very uncomfortable to play with this issue.
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Have you ever heard of a console repair shop. At least where I live, drift fix costs only 20 Euros. You can even buy hall effect sticks for cheap from China and ask the repair shop to install them. Stop wasting money.
 
Magister said:
Have you ever heard of a console repair shop. At least where I live, drift fix costs only 20 Euros. You can even buy hall effect sticks for cheap from China and ask the repair shop to install them. Stop wasting money.
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I live in Finland man, here the repairs will cost more than the product and frankly I dont have patience to learn how to fix these controllers. I admire people that do but I just can't. If I buy a product I want it to work. And I know its on me that I keep buying Dualsenses but the thing is that I really like how it feels when playing, in that sense Sony nailed it but honestly I had enough of their bad quality which is why I am making this post.

I think its fair to praise how amazing Dualsense feels when playing a game and at the same time complain about how embarrassing the quality of the joysticks is in general.
 
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Aenima said:
All controllers that share the same stick tech as these controllers have a chance to develop stick drift, especially with modern games that have very tight deadzones. Only the DS that came with my console got stick drift, but the other one that i bought at launch as well never got drift and has more than 5 years of heavy use on it. Its a lottery. They need to adopt better tech for sticks.
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I've been lucky. My joycons all had drift as well. I do play the PS5 a bit less too which could also be a contributing factor.
 
Gonzito said:
Another Dualsense with stick drift after a year of use. I have never seen anything like this and I've been playing games for almost 4 decades. This is my fourth controller and now I will have to buy a new one because it's very uncomfortable to play with this issue.

I want to ask you, how is the experience with the Xbox controller? Is it worth it?

I am thinking of getting one for pc and not buying Sony controllers ever again
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Dont really have to buy a new one.. i got stick drift for 1st time a few weeks back and fixed it with a contact cleaner spray.. yes, believe it or not, it actually works. But you do you... go for a 4th controller.

Anything to add to that laugh emoji Gonzito Gonzito
I dont see whats so funny.
 
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Gonzito said:
I live in Finland man, here the repairs will cost more than the product and frankly I dont have patience to learn how to fix these controllers. I admire people that do but I just can't. If I buy a product I want it to work. And I know its on me that I keep buying Dualsenses but the thing is that I really like how it feels when playing, in that sense Sony nailed it but honestly I had enough of their bad quality which is why I am making this post.

I think its fair to praise how amazing Dualsense feels when playing a game and at the same time complain about how embarrassing the quality of the joysticks is in general.
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Papi, if you want, I can send you the the link/contact of the repair guy I used from Ebay - he's very thorough, polite and does a good job - I paid 50 Euros for 2 dualsenses (4 sticks in total).
 
These are the little things that add up on a console over the years, alongside more expensive games and online paywalls. In the meantime, I'm using a €10 controller with hall effect on my PC.
 
Giallo Corsa said:
Papi, if you want, I can send you the the link/contact of the repair guy I used from Ebay - he's very thorough, polite and does a good job - I paid 50 Euros for 2 dualsenses (4 sticks in total).
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No need man but thanks. I will get the one that I got recommended by some usera here and see how it goes
 
Guess I'm lucky I don't use my PS5 that often (mainly exclusives machine) and also don't use the Dual Sense on PC unless a game specifically has heptics/trigger support. I use my 8bitdo pro 2 otherwise (steam controller in the future).

Have had my PS5 for 2 years now, 0 issues with the controller. It's actually a great controller from my experience. Sucks to hear it'll break if I use it too much.
 
Dualsense are like Logitech mice. Great product with fucking terrible build quality. I got 2 at launch and one has stick drift and both had to have the batteries replaced as they were taking longer to charge than the actual charge lasted.
 
Axelon said:
Guess I'm lucky I don't use my PS5 that often (mainly exclusives machine) and also don't use the Dual Sense on PC unless a game specifically has heptics/trigger support. I use my 8bitdo pro 2 otherwise (steam controller in the future).

Have had my PS5 for 2 years now, 0 issues with the controller. It's actually a great controller from my experience. Sucks to hear it'll break if I use it too much.
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Nah, i dont think its like that. My Pro sat in storage or in the box with us for the greater part of a year because we travelled up the Australia coast for work. Got it out and it was drifting almost immediately. I had it put away so nothing was leaning against the sticks.. practically a brand new controller with very little use. Definitely not a wear and tear issue.
 
Been using a Launch XBone controller on PC and it refuses to die in any way. I even had to buy analog sticks caps because the rubber wore away. No stick drift, no button defects. It kinda pisses me off because I'd like a new controller but I'm too cheap to replace a working one.
 
simpatico said:
Been using a Launch XBone controller on PC and it refuses to die in any way. I even had to buy analog sticks caps because the rubber wore away. No stick drift, no button defects. It kinda pisses me off because I'd like a new controller but I'm too cheap to replace a working one.
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It's interesting because I think Xbox One controller is a piece of shit - loose analogs, bad triggers, bumpers I had to fix myself and overall terrible construction (it squeaks like motherfucker).

Compared to that even X360 controller was amazing (it only stopped working because something happened to the cable). Xbox Series controllers are the best Xbox controllers ever.
 
Gonzito said:
I live in Finland man, here the repairs will cost more than the product
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Buy a standard controller and solder in some tmr or hall effect sticks. It's far from ideal of course and should be standard, but if we just keep buying new controllers we're encouraging them to continue the practice.
 
Been using a ManbaOne Pro controller for PC-TV gaming and I find it right up there with the 8bitdo controller. Joysticks are fantastic. Buttons take a bit getting used to as they feel different, but it's unbelievable for the price.
 
Bojji said:
It's interesting because I think Xbox One controller is a piece of shit - loose analogs, bad triggers, bumpers I had to fix myself and overall terrible construction (it squeaks like motherfucker).

Compared to that even X360 controller was amazing (it only stopped working because something happened to the cable). Xbox Series controllers are the best Xbox controllers ever.
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I don't recommend the Bone controller. I attribute it to my own bad luck. It's a curse, not a value prop.
 
My Dualshock 4 is a pain in the ass to get to work with some PC games, but this makes me really glad I've held onto it.

I'll miss the Playstation button UI, so I hope Sony fixes their new shit before the day I have to get a new one.

I'll never get another Xbox controller because I'm planning to use gyro in the game I'm working on.
 
My three dual sense controllers stopped working and I had them since launch. No misuse just lying idle. Meanwhile my PSVita 1000 is still working.

If you drop it once or twice, it is done.
 
My launch dualsense is just fine but I will admit its not my main controller so I don't use it has often as most

The only controller than ever gave me issues and I went through like ten of them was the Dualshock 2 what a POS that was.
 
+1 for third party controllers on PC. The range of options and the quality of the good ones is on par or better than console first party and often for less.

I have an 8bitdo Ultimate 2 like many others and although I wish it was a bit bugger it's a very good controller.

I also have a Gamesir T3 Lite, which is a wired PS style controller that only costs £20 and still has TMR sticks.

I'm waiting for Steam Controller 2 like many others, but I'm happy to wait because what I have is getting me through just fine.
 
Gonzito said:
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One more thing you need to learn is how to map extra buttons on the fly without using their software:
  1. Hold the button you want to map
  2. Hold the target button
  3. Press the square button
You can save multiple presets and switch between them by pressing that button between d-pad and the right stick.
 
MidGenRefresh said:
One more thing you need to learn is how to map extra buttons on the fly without using their software:
  1. Hold the button you want to map
  2. Hold the target button
  3. Press the square button
You can save multiple presets and switch between them by pressing that button between d-pad and the right stick.
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Good to know. I'm testing Nioh and the controller is fantastic. It feels very comfortable, and the joysticks feel better than the DualSense, almost as if there's more range of motion. It's crazy that this is cheaper than Sony's controller.
 
Gonzito said:
Good to know. I'm testing Nioh and the controller is fantastic. It feels very comfortable, and the joysticks feel better than the DualSense, almost as if there's more range of motion. It's crazy that this is cheaper than Sony's controller.
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Nice. Start utilizing the back buttons for actions that normally require constantly taking your thumb from the right stick, it makes all the difference.
 
MidGenRefresh said:
One more thing you need to learn is how to map extra buttons on the fly without using their software:
  1. Hold the button you want to map
  2. Hold the target button
  3. Press the square button
You can save multiple presets and switch between them by pressing that button between d-pad and the right stick.
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The only thing to note here is that the presets don't allow certain things. I'm not 100% on the wall I hit because it was when I first got it, but I think it might be to do with on the fly mapping and/or turbo. So I just remap on the fly using no profile (no light), and I find that lots of gamss don't change the key buttons too much.

Gonzito Gonzito For an idea of where that's useful, I use turbo A on PR (good for mashing through menus, world interactions and diagloue) and turbo R1 on R4 in Souls games. PL is my run button, whatever that might be. It's especially useful if it's one of those annoying games that has L3 sprint, but just as useful when B is run so that you can avoid claw grip.

I know turbo is looked down upon because of multiplayer, but it's fantastic for all those games when you're pressing a button hundreds of times a session like Streets of Rage. Or games where it isn't your first save file and you just want to get to the gameplay. Just beware that turbo is temporary, and when you boot up the next day you will need to set it again.

On an unrelated note, there is a controller OT if anyone is interested.
 
Soodanim said:
The only thing to note here is that the presets don't allow certain things. I'm not 100% on the wall I hit because it was when I first got it, but I think it might be to do with on the fly mapping and/or turbo. So I just remap on the fly using no profile (no light), and I find that lots of gamss don't change the key buttons too much.

Gonzito Gonzito For an idea of where that's useful, I use turbo A on PR (good for mashing through menus, world interactions and diagloue) and turbo R1 on R4 in Souls games. PL is my run button, whatever that might be. It's especially useful if it's one of those annoying games that has L3 sprint, but just as useful when B is run so that you can avoid claw grip.

I know turbo is looked down upon because of multiplayer, but it's fantastic for all those games when you're pressing a button hundreds of times a session like Streets of Rage. Or games where it isn't your first save file and you just want to get to the gameplay. Just beware that turbo is temporary, and when you boot up the next day you will need to set it again.

On an unrelated note, there is a controller OT if anyone is interested.
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Thanks for the tips. I definitely need to experiment a bit. One thing I have noticed while playing is that I push by accident sometimes the back buttons of the controller. I would like to deactivate that so I'll check how to do that as well.

Thanks everyone who recommended me this controller, its definitely a great choice
 
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