robotzombie
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it wasn't foreshadowing
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The Walking Dead Season 5, Part 1 Sundays on AMC
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it wasn't foreshadowing
Jest Chillin
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I just meant that as a person, Abraham really doesn't seem too clever. He's not a moron or anything but I get the impression that everyone from the prison group is smarter than he is.
anarckitty
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As a fan of the comics, I have really been enjoying this season so far. I know we're only 3 episodes in, but there have been minimal groan/eye rolling moments thus far. I'm excited to see what else this season has in store for us as (Gimple?, can't remember who exactly said) it's supposed to mirror the comics more.
-Pyromaniac-
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the OG atlanta/prison group have been through so damn much that they are basically trained soldiers at this point lol. That's what I loved about the cannibals getting wrecked. They thought they were smart and organized. They know nothing.
Take a breath and consider how they ended up making such a risky attack instead of just keeping them guessing about where the 3 missing members went.
Easy peachy.
I am going to get so much mileage out of this.
Jason's Ultimatum
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Um, you may want to look up the definition of foreshadowing, lol.
Yeah, that ain't Columbus, unless it's added a bunch of taller buildings in the last 7 years (since I moved.)
Think Terminus was in NW Macon, and Newnan/Sharpsburg/Peachtree City is a good choice for where the prison is, as you can guess that Senoia was Woodbury (filmed there and is close enough to where the Prison is, to match the travel time between the 2 places, while the real Woodbury is a bit further south)
shinra-bansho
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As opposed to yelling at each other really loudly or firing half a dozen shots blindly into the woods like they did earlier in the episode...
I have a feeling the show is about to slow down with the Beth arc, we'll see her story, whatever Daryl and Carol did and then the Atlanta rescue badassery and maybe something with the DC roadtrip crew and then some type of cliffhanger until part 2 in 2015.
I loved it too. Especially Gareth trying to bargain his way out of it and that smug guy from the cabin getting wrecked. They were screwing with the wrong people.
I made a T-dog gif yesterday. No reason to post it whatsoever, but I am anyway.
Rest easy, t-dog.
I don't think anyone in this gif is on the show anymore. Looking back at season 1/2 almost seems like an entirely different show (which I guess it practically was considering all the showrunner swapping before our lord and savior The Gimp took command).
Jest Chillin
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Who is that between Lori and Dale though?
Jason's Ultimatum
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Could be maybe Andrea or one of Maggie's sisters.
-Pyromaniac-
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As much as I <3 carol she is in the way of Baryl happening. That cannot stand.
I think it's Andrea.
-Pyromaniac-
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Yeah I think it's andrea because I've seen many andreas in my time.
Jest Chillin
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Yeah I should've just google'd that one. Just looked it up and it's indeed Andrea. Thanks guys.
Evil_Silver
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This season so far has been way better than season 3 and 4.
That was a known threat.
Edit: and they were using suppressing fire to keep the cannibals down so they could retreat safer.
Jest Chillin
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The Terminus group was labeling the Church the same way they labeled the Train Cars where they kept their victims before eating them.
Good spot. Cheers.
Hopefully they are listening to the fans and won't deviate from what, to this point, is making the season so good.
I'm trying to pretend Season 3 never happened.
Lord Thrappleper The 49th
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What do you reckon their power levels are now?
Yeah, that's my worry too. They dragged the farm story long out for an entire season. I can't imagine how long they'll drag that story line out. I hope they can make it work and change up the scenery.
Maybe we get to see some of Jesus' actions in greater detail.
It's Reyn Time!
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Sorry to drag this up from a few pages ago but there are two kinds of infection. One which everybody has which turns you when you die, and one which causes infection, fever and death within a day or two at most, caused by bites from the turned.
Think about it, if a cow had some kind of infection which would kill it dead in 48 hours straight then would you eat the meat from it?
TheVampire
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Vice versa wouldn't matter to me. Carol is staring to become badass, would be stupid to just kill her in favour of a character as Beth.
Season 3 wasn't THAT bad since it did kill of Andrea and Lori.
crazyrabbits
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I'd love to see them do
a half-season in Alexandria, as all the major players get introduced and some of the comic events happen (Michonne takes up work as a police officer, etc.) Then, World War Three goes for a season, and then it does the time skip to the current comic arc before having Rick and a select few survivors head out in Washington, DC to look for a cure.
I can't remember, have Morgan and Daryl or Carol ever met? If so, I bet it's Morgan. The episode 1 setup meant they're going to run into him again.
Yeah but its just the way Daryl looks its as if something bad may have happend. Nah Morgan has only met Carl and Michonne in season 3 I think it was.
crazyrabbits
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Daryl and Carol might know about him, considering that Rick was going out of his way to try and contact him back at the Atlanta camp. IIRC, they left a sign for him (or anyone else passing by) that Atlanta wasn't safe.
Jest Chillin
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There's only one infection that turns a person into a walker and they all have it. The bite is a separate thing that causes death but there's nothing to suggest that cooked meat from say, a zombie cow, would transfer that fever to the people who ate it. The fever could only be one of two things. Either a disease, like a cold or flu, or it's a blood infection like sepsis. Most likely sepsis since cutting off a bitten limb fast enough stops it from spreading. Either way, it doesn't make sense for it to spread from the consumption of flesh that's cooked.
It was just Bob freaking them out to get the last laugh. That's it.
Carnby
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I also think it was the reason they sent Bob back to the church instead of eating the rest of him.
I agree that eating tainted meat probably wouldn't kill you or turn you quicker, I still find it completely understandable that no one would want to eat it.
Also, if Carol doesn't come back I'm flipping tables. Especially if they kill her off to bring back Beth of all people. Baryl is gross. I'd rather call it Deth.
Also, if Carol doesn't come back I'm flipping tables. Especially if they kill her off to bring back Beth of all people. Baryl is gross. I'd rather call it Deth.
Valkyr Junkie
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They dropped him back at the church so he would tell his group where the Terminus folks had set up camp, being that their plan was to wait for Rick and the other muscle to leave the church for the school before they attacked the church.
This is the way I think of the virus. There are two versions of the same virus, dormant and active.
The virus is dormant and can only be activated by death.
The dormant form can be transferred to other people, probably through contact. Hence why the entire group is contagious and infected.
When somebody is bitten by the dead, they receive the active form of the virus directly, which then kills them.
Hence, Bob had been infected by the active virus and hence if the cannibals ate him they would be infected with the active virus assuming the heat didn't kill it off.
Who knows if a virus could behave this way in the real world, but this is a made-up virus. I think it would match up well with how the writers handle the behavior of the virus so far.
The virus is dormant and can only be activated by death.
The dormant form can be transferred to other people, probably through contact. Hence why the entire group is contagious and infected.
When somebody is bitten by the dead, they receive the active form of the virus directly, which then kills them.
Hence, Bob had been infected by the active virus and hence if the cannibals ate him they would be infected with the active virus assuming the heat didn't kill it off.
Who knows if a virus could behave this way in the real world, but this is a made-up virus. I think it would match up well with how the writers handle the behavior of the virus so far.
Jest Chillin
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This.. doesn't work. The contact theory doesn't work because people and corpses who had no contact with others are still infected and reanimate. The dormant/active doesn't make much sense given that it's dormant in the living except when bitten or blood to blood transfers from dead to living. Fever is the sign of the body trying to fight an infection but why would the virus be dormant except when bitten? Active or Dormant, the virus wouldn't be able to tell whether the living host had been bitten or not. So it should either be always dormant in living, bite or not, or always active in living.
Also if there were two strains, that would've been revealed by CDC guy in S1.
My guess is that it's either Morgan or Beth and Carol ran off after helping Daryl rescue Beth for the hospital. I don't think they would have ended the episode on cliff hanger if it was Carol in the woods.
So maybe it's airborne then? Why would the virus be dormant except when bitten? Because it requires some kind of catalyst that only death can cause to make it active. It seems to make a lot more sense to me than the the other theories, because it clashes a lot with the story. For example, one would then theoretically be able to beat the fever and live if it was the fever that was the cause of the death and not the virus itself. Have we seen any examples of somebody getting bitten and living?
As for the CDC guy, he whispered to Rick about being infected as he was getting ready to blow himself up. He wasn't exactly Mr. Flowing with information guy. At that point all he wanted was death and wasn't too considered with the others, in fact, his plan was to kill them.
Jest Chillin
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It is most likely airborne, yes. And Hershel was bitten and lived. They cut off his leg soon after he was bitten and he was fine. If the bite spread an "active" virus, shouldn't that then activate the "dormant" virus already in the host? Being able to amputate bitten extremities and not have the fever and not turn seems to suggest that whatever causes the fever is different from the actual virus itself.
To clarify.. it's not the fever itself that kills. The fever is a symptom of the body fighting an infection. Similar to the way the people in the prison got fevers from the Flu-like disease that was spreading. Whatever the infection is that comes from bites, there's no known cure, so it can't be survived without amputation. That's why I feel like the bite causes a blood infection of some kind. It spreads really fast but if the infected area is removed from the body before it can spread, the victim seems to be just fine.
Edit: The CDC guy told them enough to let them know they couldn't find a cure and he believed they weren't going to. I think if there were two different strains, he would've mentioned it.
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