There was the black cop at the hospital. Thought he was goin to be a major character, but nope, Rick ran his ass over.
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The Walking Dead Season 5, Part 2 S6 premieres Oct 11th
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There was the black cop at the hospital. Thought he was goin to be a major character, but nope, Rick ran his ass over.
Gravity Rush avy? I like you.
The Artisan
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don't get the pun, but they've got an interesting conversation going there.
Doesn't include the shot of the camera panning with Hardwick in the picture but still great. hahah
TWD reddit has some pretty awesome stuff lol
Rick's to-do list:
It's not about them killing Aiden. It's about them getting Aiden killed. It's two totally different things.
It's also not about what the character will do but more about what the writers will do to keep the story and plot moving forward. Gabriel's scene foreshadowed the upcoming rift in Alexandria between Rick's group and the original residents. Aiden's death is the obvious plot device that will spark the rift as it would affect Deanna emotionally and she has been the main person keeping order in town. Once Deanna snaps, the rest of the town will follow.
Nicholas was obviously kept alive as an additional plot device to fuel the rift. Glenn and co. will blame him and Aiden for the mess and he would have no choice but to flip the blame back on them by lying about what happened in town.
HP_Wuvcraft
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I am really over "they are good but not really" storylines.
But this really isn't the same thing. That's the briliance of this arc. It's no longer black and white but many shades of grey. Alexandria is clearly a "good" community while Rick's group is also "good". But the desperation of the circumstances puts them on a path of conflict with each other. For the past few seasons, it's always been Rick stumbling upon "evil" communities of people but this time, it's increasingly apparent that Rick's group are the "evil" ones or at least, the ones who will bring the community towards a downward spiral. The facts are:
1. In a community of weak and civilized people who have graciously accepted and provided for them, one of Rick's first actions is to arm himself and several of his people by breaking into their armoury when it is apparent that no one else carries guns in the town.
2. Carol suggests killing Pete who is accused of being an abuser of his wife and Rick has seemingly has no negative reaction to this line of thinking. Killing someone for hitting his wife is clearly a dysfunctional and disproportionately large reaction in a civilized society.
3. The group brought Gabriel into the town and he is now sowing seeds of discord which can threaten to splinter the community.
4. Rick harbours thoughts of taking over the town for his group.
It's great and I hope they handle the next few episodes well.
Can't remember if they have shown it in the TV show yet but they get weaker as time goes on like they rot and decay. You see one in the comic who is unable to move due to it but is still trying to get to someone to eat them.
-Pyromaniac-
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that gif plus the crowd going wild was really goddamn hilarious
Doesn't include the shot of the camera panning with Hardwick in the picture but still great. hahah
TWD reddit has some pretty awesome stuff lol
everyone is rooting for the kid
Yeah, I get that but sometimes Walkers like the ones that killed Noah are just hanging onto legs and nothing happens. Now one grabs him and just rips into him like he's paper. It just seems a little selective. Still, it's a tv show so it's not that bad.
Holy shit that was a good episode with the exception of Noah. I believe in the black quota now. Can't have too many
So.... Now we have Carol telling Rick that Pete needs to go. Terra(spelling?) has massive head trauma and Pete is the only one capable of doing anything about it. Gabriel just gave Diana an out to getting rid of some people. See a possible rift there? I do.
Then we have the construction team warming up Abraham. More rifts.
Glenn and Maggie are fucked.
FUCKING ASSHOLES.
So.... Now we have Carol telling Rick that Pete needs to go. Terra(spelling?) has massive head trauma and Pete is the only one capable of doing anything about it. Gabriel just gave Diana an out to getting rid of some people. See a possible rift there? I do.
Then we have the construction team warming up Abraham. More rifts.
Glenn and Maggie are fucked.
Probably the best substitute of motherfucker there is
More_Badass
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Snakes on a Plane's TV edit has probably the most ridiculous substitute
More_Badass
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I wonder if this is like the Season 4 finale where they did the "Fucking with the wrong people" line but used "Messing with" in the show.
Maybe the DVD will have Abraham saying fuck
Napoleonthechimp
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On a happier note regarding death, anyone have a favorite zombie kill?
My personal favorite is the face rip from Season 3
Their skin just falls off but yet they have the strength to tear someone to pieces.
Pankratous
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Brutal, fantastic episode. Two great death scenes - though i'm really sad about Noah's death. Hell, I'm even sad about the other guy, it seemed like he was starting to wisen up and listen to Glenn.
I'm glad Glenn is getting front-seat again, he was sidelined for ages. Gabriel is massive fucking knobjockey though.
I was really hoping the two communities would integrate well... and if it weren't for Gabriel they probably could. Now I think shit is gonna go down.
I'm glad Glenn is getting front-seat again, he was sidelined for ages. Gabriel is massive fucking knobjockey though.
I was really hoping the two communities would integrate well... and if it weren't for Gabriel they probably could. Now I think shit is gonna go down.
Nameless
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Was this posted?
God Damn. Also Shumpert from Woodbury and Morgan's son Dwayne were both killed off screen. The Black Man Quota is real.
Soon Morgan will back , though. And with his Destiny Armor +99 undead he'll basically be an immortal.
C L E A R
hobblygobbly
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The gore was much more gruesome in this episode than usual, lol.
I like it.
I like it.
Skin is separate from muscle and bone. Just go with it.
This episode made me so pissed in the best kind of way, I expected Glenn to just go mental on that asshole.
Didn't find either death all that surprising though since this show has the tendency to give some brief, random character development type stuff at the start of the episode they die in. Noah had his whole thing about being in for the long haul and helping with the building and other guy was getting all hugs and kisses from his parents before leaving.
Didn't find either death all that surprising though since this show has the tendency to give some brief, random character development type stuff at the start of the episode they die in. Noah had his whole thing about being in for the long haul and helping with the building and other guy was getting all hugs and kisses from his parents before leaving.
thats what i thought he said too
BlackGhost
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Omg lolWas this posted?
HP_Wuvcraft
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Didn't Aidan imply they didn't give a shot about the people they deemed unworrthy of the town? Plus, with everyone running away when things got tough, that's definitely the feeling I got.
Gabriel's turn was a real surprise, and I like where they went with it. He didn't just say "these people are bad people, Deanna, be careful".
He said they were minions of Satan, thereby making himself just as much a threat to the community, if not more-so, than a group of people that could potentially be reasoned with.
Why exactly did they recruit Rick et al to protect the community? Rick's group have had members dying left, right, and center. They're barely hanging on and dying of thirst walking on the road with no destination and no resources.
Meanwhile the current community they're in have nice houses, walls, parties, bbqs, books on shelves, doctors, barbers, running water, and family fun times. They seem to be doing a pretty good job of keeping safe before Rick's arrival.
RIck's group needs the community more than the community needs Rick.
Meanwhile the current community they're in have nice houses, walls, parties, bbqs, books on shelves, doctors, barbers, running water, and family fun times. They seem to be doing a pretty good job of keeping safe before Rick's arrival.
RIck's group needs the community more than the community needs Rick.
Deanna mentioned that they had to exile some people not long ago. That probably plays a part in why she thinks the community needs a group like Rick's to help keep order in the long run.
Plus, her ultimate objective is to keep expanding the place, and having people who lived outside for that long will be useful in that endeavor.
The time frame of Alexandria's prosperity got a bit weird in the show because of the expanded timeline too. In the comics the community had existed for
less than a year
More_Badass
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Probably thinking back to how she was free from Ed after he was killed.
Alexandria is soft as hell. They needed Rick and Co. because they could survive outside and help toughen up the town to outside threats. Deanna seems smart enough to realize that their sweet little community is a place that people would desperately want to take.
cheststrongwell
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Good episode, but I am not at all happy with Noah's death. Bullshit!
It's kinda like Mike's 'no half measures' attitude in Breaking Bad.
This group has seen so many situations go south because they didn't act quickly enough, or they tried to avoid conflict, or they didn't finish the job. And it's cost them lives.
This is the apocalypse. The abusive dad can't be sent somewhere else and receive counselling, or go to prison. He either gets exiled (death) or he can stay but he's humiliated and a pariah - and becomes increasingly bitter and withdrawn, until one day he drinks too much, attacks and maybe and kills someone. Or does something else stupid to jeopardise lives/Alexandria.
Carol's making sure the person who inevitably dies is him.
-Pyromaniac-
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because the second a good group finds that place they will rape and pillage it. Rick's group can protect them from those threats. Surprising they lasted this long.
UberTag
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It also helps when you get to take a pickaxe to your abusive hubby's skull.
Why should Jessie be left out of this kind of fun?
This will also be a much-needed step in Rick's continued transformation into Shane.
TimeEffect
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Where's that poster that does the Hall of Fame comments. Dammit, I look forward to that guy after every episode
I don't think it's exactly bloodlust, but I also don't think they gave that line of thought the appropriate exposition that it deserved (probably just so they could drop it at the end of the episode as a cliffhanger, and they'll explain in detail next episode).
The reasoning would be that while Rick is in charge of keeping the peace, he has little power to actually punish anyone for any wrong doing. He can't put someone in jail, he can't call child protective services and have the kid taken away. At best, he can tell Pete he has to move out of the house, but again, how can he force him to do so? And ultimately, even if he moves out, there's nothing stopping him from still beating the crap out of them, since it's impossible for Rick to protect them 24/7. He could maybe issue a warning of "if you touch them again, you die," but that might just escalate his abuse in a fatal way. And there is also the question of whether Deanna would actually allow Rick to take any action, considering the guy is a doctor, and therefore important to the community (possibly more important than his wife and child from a purely utilitarian viewpoint).
The only way to 100% guarantee he doesn't hurt anyone would be to kill him.
I don't agree with this line of logic though. Even though society has crumbled, Alexandria is working to establish some semblance of a society. If justice is delivered in the form of death for any infraction, without so much as a chance to plead one's case, then Alexandria will never be any better than being out on the road again.
But I do understand how Carol arrived at the conclusion she did, especially considering her history.
Master Thespian
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The easiest solution and the one that probably makes the most sense is that every walker hasn't been dead the same amount of time so the ones that are stronger and more durable than the others probably haven't been dead very long.
Master Yoshi
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Here's hoping for a moment where Rick looks in the mirror and sees Shane's face taking the place of his... maybe some epic Shane dialogue too.
"Ayye man, y'know that baby ain't yerrs, right? I'm a better father than yeww, Rick! And I'm not even uhhlive! Ohh, uh... Lori says hi. Take it easy, brother!"
"Ayye man, y'know that baby ain't yerrs, right? I'm a better father than yeww, Rick! And I'm not even uhhlive! Ohh, uh... Lori says hi. Take it easy, brother!"
Pilgrimzero
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2 things about Noahs death.
Makes Beth's death even more stupid and useless
This show really doesn't like black people. The mkers HAVE to be aware of this rep by now right?
Makes Beth's death even more stupid and useless
This show really doesn't like black people. The mkers HAVE to be aware of this rep by now right?
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