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‘The Walking Dead’ – Season 5, Part 2 – S6 premieres Oct 11th

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TheSeks

Blinded by the luminous glory that is David Bowie's physical manifestation.
And then that causes him to run into the arms of Aaron, breaking fangirls hearts everywhere and producing even more tears from damn near every demographic.

Not this demographic. ( ͡~ ͜ʖ ͡°)
 

Beefy

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I get that but so has Michonne,Glen and Maggie. They want it to work. Rick and Carol were plotting to take over the place from the start. Even Daryl wasn't too enthusiastic about the idea.

Everyone reacts different, I guess Carol didn't really care about her husband dying. Daryl knew his brother had to die. Rick lost his wife in a fucked up way
 
Fair play to Michonne. Ricks stubborness has been annoying me lately. He keeps repeating that they have to live in the real world but apart from pete I can't see anything else that was going wrong in the town.

Probably that they run away at the first sight of trouble and constantly get people killed because of it

Shane mk II gonna have to lay down the law
 
What got me ticked was deanna made rick the constable, tells him they don't kill people because they're civilised. But when he brings up his first order of official business its all of a sudden; oooooh ya no we need that guy.

Oh? He's beating his wife? Ya we knew that.

But were super civilised! Don't forget that point..Rick.

I mean even if we did let you handle him, what would you do?

-Rick "so why am I constable again?"

-Deanna "lol!"
 
So what does everyone think the inevitable cliffhanger will be?

I say something with Daryl. They like to use him in cliffhangers to tug at everyones heart strings. He will be in some sort of dangerous situation or something.
 
So what does everyone think the inevitable cliffhanger will be?

I say something with Daryl. They like to use him in cliffhangers to tug at everyones heart strings. He will be in some sort of dangerous situation or something.
If they're going the same route as the comics,
the Wolves will attack, Rick and co takes them out but the battle attracts an undead herd
The massive herd surrounds Alexandria, the walls gives, and then the season ends.
They're already laying the foundation for that with Aaron's comment about there being more walkers than usual. And it would bring it full circle to that massive herd Abraham saw when they first set off towards Washingon
 
I get that but so has Michonne,Glen and Maggie. They want it to work. Rick and Carol were plotting to take over the place from the start. Even Daryl wasn't too enthusiastic about the idea.
No they weren't. Rick explicitly said "If they can't make it work, we take this place". Like if Alexandria turns out bad, or if people will have a problem with Rick's group staying there.
 

-griffy-

Banned
Since Melissa McBride will be on Talking Dead for the finale I think she will get killed by Pete. Getting killed by another abusive husband would be one sad form of irony but if she dies it will truly make people go in tears

That would be fucking gross. I would not be happy with that.
 

kai3345

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I wish they'd kill Darryl. Imagine how ballsy that would be? Reveal the new villain(s) by having them take out the show's strongest character with ease.
 

Symphonia

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I like(d) Michonne but da fuq is she doing knocking Rick out like that? The man was just stating the truth. The residents of Alexandria are living in some sort of fucked up fantasy land. Rick just dropped the reality bomb on those motherfuckers, and he would've made them begin to see sense had it not been with Michonne interferring and knocking him out. Man, fuck Michonne.
 

Vagabundo

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I like(d) Michonne but da fuq is she doing knocking Rick out like that? The man was just stating the truth. The residents of Alexandria are living in some sort of fucked up fantasy land. Rick just dropped the reality bomb on those motherfuckers, and he would've made them begin to see sense had it not been with Michonne interferring and knocking him out. Man, fuck Michonne.

Do you really think that?

Seems to me he was working himself up into a lather, and with him flayling around with the gun in his hand, it was an accident waiting to happen.

Michonne did Rick the biggest favour of his life.
 

Odah

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What was with the Casserole Carol made? I didn't see what was written on the card.

I found a gif so you can rewatch it


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Fuu

Formerly Alaluef (not Aladuf)
Do you really think that?

Seems to me he was working himself up into a lather, and with him flayling around with the gun in his hand, it was an accident waiting to happen.

Michonne did Rick the biggest favour of his life.
Exactly. It doesn’t matter if Rick wasn’t wrong in what he was saying, he was off his rocker, bloodied and screaming with his gun out. People who are saying “fuck Michonne” think everyone should just agree with him in that situation and go “ok Rick, you’re right. Kill Pete and we can move on. You’re our own Dredd now, viva la Ricktatorship."? lmao. She flat-out saved Rick when she clocked him.

Besides, he wants to get into Jessie and it’s the main driving force for him doing what he did the way he did it.

Jesse: Would you do this for someone else? Would you do this for anyone?
Rick: No. No.

Rick needs to calm his ass down. He’s close to crossing the Shane line, and that’s an egotistical place where you ultimately only think about yourself and who you want to bang. It only keeps everyone alive until they become inconvenient for you (Otis).
 

ItIsOkBro

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Fair play to Michonne. Ricks stubborness has been annoying me lately. He keeps repeating that they have to live in the real world but apart from pete I can't see anything else that was going wrong in the town.

there‘s this huge discrepancy between how the town is presented and how it has resulted. i guess for the sake of tv magic it had to be a town that is already functioning but needs rick but it‘s a surprise it hasn‘t been overtaken or overridden already. the town surived this long but it isn‘t because of what they‘ve been doing but in spite of what they‘ve been doing, that‘s rick‘s angle.
 

Nodnol

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So to the guys and gals that have read the comic;

What do we see first? The guys tying naked girls to trees and carving 'W's into foreheads, or the herd? How far apart are the two events?

Surely the finale will start with Rick being either restrained or kicked out, shit hits the fan and the Alexandria softies realise they need Rick and Co? Cue ass-kicking and heroic last stands, with the dust settling on an Alexandria that appreciates the dangers beyond the perimeter fence?

I can deal with any death coming apart from Rick and Daryl. Please not Daryl. :-(
 
So to the guys and gals that have read the comic;

What do we see first? The guys tying naked girls to trees and carving 'W's into foreheads, or the herd? How far apart are the two events?

Surely the finale will start with Rick being either restrained or kicked out, shit hits the fan and the Alexandria softies realise they need Rick and Co? Cue ass-kicking and heroic last stands, with the dust settling on an Alexandria that appreciates the dangers beyond the perimeter fence?

I can deal with any death coming apart from Rick and Daryl. Please not Daryl. :-(
(Comic spoilers)
In the comics, there were no Wolves, but another group called the Scavengers. But they were really more of a plot device than a threat: 1) To show Alexandria how Rick and co can protect them from threats and 2) so the battle can attracts the attention of a massive herd. I imagine that the show's going to a similar route
 

Moofers

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Daryl isn't going to die until the final season. Hell, he might even make it all the way to the end. He's a fan favorite. We'll have riots if they kill him off.

I think Carol is out. I don't know if it'll be Pete but I think she's the big one to go this time, based off what I've read in here about her being on Talking Dead and Norman Reedus saying we'll need our kleenex boxes handy.

Really hoping the writing isn't so bad that they killed Morgan offscreen/flashback. That will straight up piss me off to the point of maybe quitting the show.
 
So to the guys and gals that have read the comic;

What do we see first? The guys tying naked girls to trees and carving 'W's into foreheads, or the herd? How far apart are the two events?

Surely the finale will start with Rick being either restrained or kicked out, shit hits the fan and the Alexandria softies realise they need Rick and Co? Cue ass-kicking and heroic last stands, with the dust settling on an Alexandria that appreciates the dangers beyond the perimeter fence?

I can deal with any death coming apart from Rick and Daryl. Please not Daryl. :-(

we are defintly losing some cast members next week. The cast has gotten so big I cant even remember whos in the party anymore. let alone thier names as some get thrown to the wayside for weeks at a time.

the week beforte last when the priest showed up at Deannas house I was like Oh yeah, hes on the show. I hope next week we get back to the core group so the character dynamics can be at the forefront again.

I dont know whats going to happen next week. This seasons build up has been so subtle that its hard to imagine what the climax will be.

Im pretty sure thuogh that the daryl stuff is going to be our lead in to next seasons story arch thuogh.
beside from Rick, Daryl, Maggie, and Glenn i would not be too heartbroken of anyone else dying. not saying I dont like other characters. But those are the ones that would leave an impact.

I would also really like for them to leave Alexandria in one peice. the main reason. I want him to leave the baby with jessie. Im sure its just me but I think that having the baby around has become a deterrent to alot of interesting stories the show can dive into. Seems Carl was mostly just carrying that baby around all season.

its also makes me nervous all the time lol. also hard to imagine how that baby can be in such good health with the troubles they were in for most of the season.
 

Nodnol

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(Comic spoilers)
In the comics, there were no Wolves, but another group called the Scavengers. But they were really more of a plot device than a threat: 1) To show Alexandria how Rick and co can protect them from threats and 2) so the battle can attracts the attention of a massive herd. I imagine that the show's going to a similar route

I suppose there's various ways they could spin the source material. Given the length of the finale, I would guess it's not just your normal horde knocking on the door/fence, and gives enough time to reveal/expand/develop anything else.

I think a Walking Dead interpretation of the Battle at Helm's Deep, only with Morgan playing Gandalf, would be awesome. Sasha and Michonne can be Legolas and Gimli. /fantasy ideas.

That's an idea; siege weapons. Surely they have their place in a zombie apocalypse?
 
I suppose there's various ways they could spin the source material. Given the length of the finale, I would guess it's not just your normal horde knocking on the door/fence, and gives enough time to reveal/expand/develop anything else.

I think a Walking Dead interpretation of the Battle at Helm's Deep, only with Morgan playing Gandalf, would be awesome. Sasha and Michonne can be Legolas and Gimli. /fantasy ideas.

That's an idea; siege weapons. Surely they have their place in a zombie apocalypse?
Pretty useful against mindless hordes
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Moofers

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Pretty sure Eugene and Deanna's husband can come up with some trebuchets.

Would be good for large herds, as well as getting rid of Gabriel.

Yes! I'm picturing it in my head right now.

BTW, am I the only one kind of wondering how they're going to fill 90 minutes this week? I'm having a hard time imagining it being 100% interesting the whole time. I kind of expect an hour and ten minutes of mostly nothing and then twenty minutes of being on the edge of our seats....
 

Nodnol

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Yes! I'm picturing it in my head right now.

BTW, am I the only one kind of wondering how they're going to fill 90 minutes this week? I'm having a hard time imagining it being 100% interesting the whole time. I kind of expect an hour and ten minutes of mostly nothing and then twenty minutes of being on the edge of our seats....

I would imagine it allows them to fully introduce the Wolves, settle some immediate disputes in Alexandria and deal with any attacks and the typical ramifications.

I'd imagine it starts with Rick being dealt with one way or another, Daryl and Aaron stumble across something/someone, things escalate at Alexandria and then the shit hits the fan. I can't imagine they'd keep the group seperated (Daryl and Aaron), so I'd imagine any potential fighting at Alexandria would draw the attention of anyone around.

I guess the camp fire was the Wolves, but maybe it's Morgan? Either way, if anyone is to die, I'd imagine it'll be in the eyes of the whole group/main cast, so I'd guess they all end reuniting at some point.

I think an extended episode will easily work of there's enough fighting.
 

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there‘s this huge discrepancy between how the town is presented and how it has resulted. i guess for the sake of tv magic it had to be a town that is already functioning but needs rick but it‘s a surprise it hasn‘t been overtaken or overridden already. the town surived this long but it isn‘t because of what they‘ve been doing but in spite of what they‘ve been doing, that‘s rick‘s angle.

There's an actual reason for this, that is revealed later in the comics, and I'm pretty sure that's the route we're headed in. It also explains why Deanne wanted Rick's group in Alexandria.

As far as the finale goes I would speculate, what if they just killed of both Daryl and Carol. Daryl and Aaron come across the Wolves and Daryl bites it. They let Aaron go as a warning to let the others know their next. Back in Alexandria, Carol is made to look at the flowers by Pete.

Aaron makes it back to Alexandria to tell everyone and Deanne shits herself and lets the one true ruler take the throne.
Rick finds out about Gabriel and while showing him mercy he get murked in the assault on the town.
The Wolves attack Alexandria and as others have said a horde will descend on the town which will be the cliffhanger
 
Yes! I'm picturing it in my head right now.

BTW, am I the only one kind of wondering how they're going to fill 90 minutes this week? I'm having a hard time imagining it being 100% interesting the whole time. I kind of expect an hour and ten minutes of mostly nothing and then twenty minutes of being on the edge of our seats....
90 minutes is with commercials. Episode lenght will be around 50-55 minutes. So just 10 minutes more than the usual.
 

xMaxie77

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Yvette is so awesome. One of my favorite fans to listen to talking about the show. She needs to permanently co-host Talking Dead with Hardwick. Bring back that wrestler guy too.

This. The first time I saw her on the show break down the entire episode - had me thinking about things I would've never considered. Would love to see her as a permanent co-host or at least have her own Walking Dead deconstruction show cause that girl can break it downnnn
 

Effect

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I really don't see them getting rid of Daryl just yet. I think he's far to important to the fan base at the moment. Carol on the other hand would provide enough anger if she was killed off and how they handle it though and lead up to it could be satisfying. Especially if she goes out saving everyone and Rick gets revenge for her.

Comic question.
They've pretty much killed off characters or the equivalent of comic characters that shouldn't be alive at this point save Carol and Tara right? Daryl is a original creation but he might be taking part of a role meant for a comic character I last heard if I'm not mistaking due to now being a recruiter. Sasha from what I've understand is getting content that was meant for comic Andrea. The only ones this isn't being done with is Carol and Tara I believe. Comic Carol was long gone by now right? Tara is an original creation.
 

Pluto

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If Meelissa McBride is a guest on Talking Dead next week, doesn't that mean Caril is safe? I thought the dead characters are surprise guests.

If Carol dies I'm going to kick over some tables.
 

Razmos

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I really don't see them getting rid of Daryl just yet. I think he's far to important to the fan base at the moment. Carol on the other hand would provide enough anger if she was killed off and how they handle it though and lead up to it could be satisfying. Especially if she goes out saving everyone and Rick gets revenge for her.

Comic question.
They've pretty much killed off characters or the equivalent of comic characters that shouldn't be alive at this point save Carol and Tara right? Daryl is a original creation but he might be taking part of a role meant for a comic character I last heard if I'm not mistaking due to now being a recruiter. Sasha from what I've understand is getting content that was meant for comic Andrea. The only ones this isn't being done with is Carol and Tara I believe. Comic Carol was long gone by now right? Tara is an original creation.
I think Tyreese is still alive at this point in the comics, as is Sophia. Tara was a minor character in the comics but was given a bigger role in the show, Carol is basically an original character at this point.

And yeah, I can't see them killing off Daryl, not only is he a fan favourite but they have just given him a bike, a job, and a friendship with Aaron. I think the idea of Daryl as a recruiter is too good of a plot point for them to kill him off this soon.

Carol on the other hand, while she's entertaining to watch, she doesn't have much of a point right now. Her death would cause a big reaction without really damaging the plot at all. Plus I think it would be fitting if her death was due to the domestic abuse storyline, Her final hurrah being her saving Jessie, a woman in the same situation she was.
 

Moofers

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I think Tyreese is still alive at this point in the comics, as is Sophia. Tara was a minor character in the comics but was given a bigger role in the show, Carol is basically an original character at this point.

Not quite.
Tyreese got beheaded by the governor. Sophia is still alive though.
 

Deitus

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Comic question.
They've pretty much killed off characters or the equivalent of comic characters that shouldn't be alive at this point save Carol and Tara right? Daryl is a original creation but he might be taking part of a role meant for a comic character I last heard if I'm not mistaking due to now being a recruiter. Sasha from what I've understand is getting content that was meant for comic Andrea. The only ones this isn't being done with is Carol and Tara I believe. Comic Carol was long gone by now right? Tara is an original creation.

The only characters that were dead in the comics at this point, but are still alive in the show are Carol and Judith (unless I'm forgetting someone), and Carol is basically a completely different character from her comic counterpart.

Daryl doesn't really have any kind of comic component. He never really has, and Aaron never got anyone from Rick's group to help him with recruiting.

Sasha has to a degree been filling in for Andrea. Andrea in the comics was the group's sharpshooter, and the one assigned to be the lookout in the tower. She was also the one who lost a loved one to the cannibals. But her personality isn't remotely comparable. I wouldn't so much say she's the TV counterpart of Andrea, as she's easy to slot into Andrea's story arcs, since shes a TV only character.

Rick, Michonne, Abraham, Eugene, Rosita, Glen, and Maggie are roughly in the same place as they were in the comics, aside from Glen and Maggie raising Sophia after Carol died, and Carl being way younger.

Still, the story and characters are a lot closer to the comics than it has been in a long time.
 

Sadist

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Comic question.
They've pretty much killed off characters or the equivalent of comic characters that shouldn't be alive at this point save Carol and Tara right? Daryl is a original creation but he might be taking part of a role meant for a comic character I last heard if I'm not mistaking due to now being a recruiter. Sasha from what I've understand is getting content that was meant for comic Andrea. The only ones this isn't being done with is Carol and Tara I believe. Comic Carol was long gone by now right? Tara is an original creation.

Correct. Well Judith is still alive as well.

At this point Carol and Tara are their own characters; one of the things I like about series is the way they present Carol; she went from battered housewife to a strong and dependable member of the group. There are traits she shares with comic Andrea.

What a stark contrast compared to her comic counterpart btw; comic Carol was about 28-29 years old in the comics and pretty attractive btw. She never mentioned her husband which was a (used?) car salesman. She got into a relationship with Tyreese during the winter after escaping Atlanta, but she was pretty useless overall. After Tyreese cheated on her with Michonne she became crazy; first up she slitt her wrists in front of Sophia; then she proposed a threeway marriage to Lori, them sharing Rick. Which flabbergasted Lori; and then she tumbled down, fucked Hershell's youngest son and threw herself in front of a zombie.

Luckily Sophia takes after Maggie these days :p

As for Daryl, he's directionless because for a long while (and still does) filled the role of comic Tyreese as Rick's right hand man. Tyreese is dead now so... they're fitting him into another role.
 

Moofers

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The only characters that were dead in the comics at this point, but are still alive in the show are Carol and Judith (unless I'm forgetting someone), and Carol is basically a completely different character from her comic counterpart.

I don't think
Judith is dead in the comics though. Unless I'm just forgetting. I can't remember her dying.
 
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