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‘The Walking Dead’ – Season 5, Part 2 – S6 premieres Oct 11th

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SamuraiX-

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So best, worst, and most badass moments of the season?

Best for me would have to be Carol going all one-woman army on Terminus.

Worst would be Tyresse getting bit because he was too engrossed by pictures to actually fully check the house. Come on, you're cautious enough to tap at the door to draw walkers out, but don't kill that one walker just to be safe?

Most badass has to be Morgan showing off his Donatello skills. I don't know where those skills came from but it was amazing. The fact that people were saying Morgan had been killed made the scene even more tense and his Book of Eli ninja moves even cooler

Rambo Carol was awesome indeed but that would probably come in second in the best/badass categories for me.

Best: the scene with Gareth finally revealing they were cannibals followed by Bob's"tainted meat" hysteria. Lawrence Gilliard Jr. and Andrew J. West both gave their best performances on the show for me in the scene to cap off episode 502 and the opening of 503.

Worst: Probably the ending of episode 507 when Officer Lamson is able to escape because his first name is also coincidentally Bob and he pulls the old "made ya look" on Sasha because she was acting like a simp. That whole setup and execution was terribad, like, CBS TV show level of cheesy. At least they made it up with the awesome intro of the midseason finale. "Shut up."

Most badass: SEAL Team Rick.

*two Termites sniped*

(somewhere in the shadows) "Put your guns on the floor."

Gareth: Rick, we will shoot right through that doo- *Gareth's index and middle finger are shot off*

(Rick reveals himself from the shadows with suppressed pistol aimed) "Put your guns on the floor and KNEEL."

Gareth: No point in begging, right?

*Rick eyefucks Gareth into oblivion*

Rick: No.

Gareth: Still, you could've killed us when we walked in here! There had to be a reason for that!

Rick: We didn't wanna waste the bullets.

*eyefucking intensifies*

*camera zooms in on red-handled machete*

Rick: Besides, I already made you a promise.

SO. FUCKING. GOOD.
 

Kozak

Banned
Man, just got done watching, that last scene gave me chills. Especially Ricks last line:

How many of you do I have to kill to save you.

Also Carol is a fucking psychopath.

For real.

Carol pretty much was the reason for the quick escalation in drama between Rick and Pete. Without Carol I think the issues at Alexandria would have been dealt with at a slower pace.
 
The fact that those fuckers didn't realize that shit the first conversation they had with Rick's group proves we're dealing with a bunch of idiots. The guy's in a zombie apocalypse with a baby. A baby.. in the zombie apocalypse.. do you need more proof of him being a good guy? Oh, and his son wear a cowboy hat.

Alexandrians are buffoons lol
Not exactly sure I'd call Rick a good guy...
 

Sibylus

Banned
On the subject of Sasha, her lying with the zombies was a bit much for me. I get that she has a death wish, and I get why, but still. Those things have to reek.

Actually, the fact that people aren't alerted to zombies by their odor is something I'm still trying to get my head around.
I work in fast food, and lemme tell you, your nose grows deaf to being drenched in food smells really quickly.
 
This episode was easily a contender for best episode of the series.

On the subject of Sasha, her lying with the zombies was a bit much for me. I get that she has a death wish, and I get why, but still. Those things have to reek.

Actually, the fact that people aren't alerted to zombies by their odor is something I'm still trying to get my head around.

Olfactory fatigue.
 

rbanke

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Just finished watching so i'm still thinking about it but one thing that kept sticking out in my mind was the fights with the people of Alexandria. These people are supposed to be scared normal people who haven't seen much yet every time one of them gets in a scuffle with one of the group, it's a fairly even match. Off the top of my head Rick & Pete, and Glenn & Nicholas. Glenn & Rick are tough as nails & battled hardened and would have steamrolled the other guys. Dunno, just bothered me.
 

SamuraiX-

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Just finished watching so i'm still thinking about it but one thing that kept sticking out in my mind was the fights with the people of Alexandria. These people are supposed to be scared normal people who haven't seen much yet every time one of them gets in a scuffle with one of the group, it's a fairly even match. Off the top of my head Rick & Pete, and Glenn & Nicholas. Glenn & Rick are tough as nails & battled hardened and would have steamrolled the other guys. Dunno, just bothered me.

Let's remember that these guys are experienced in fighting walkers in close quarters, not people.

Let's also remember that Rick got his ass handed to him by Shane and The Governor. Not to mention Pete was a pretty huge dude.

Also, Glenn was fucking shot in the shoulder and Nicholas, like the giant cuntbag that he is pressed his fingers into the gunshot wound when they were going at it.
 

rbanke

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Let's remember that these guys are experienced in fighting walkers in close quarters, not people.

Let's also remember that Rick got his ass handed to him by Shane and The Governor. Not to mention Pete was a pretty huge dude.

Eh, I don't buy it. Shane and The Governor are peers in that aspect so they should be tough. Pete was also drunk right?
 
Opinions are a wonderful thing

It is really interesting how divisive this show can be. I guess people just have really different expectations

If a person watched that episode and can seriously state that nothing happened, this isn't the show for them. This show has never been about fast-paced action. It has been a slow-burn character drama since day one that steadily moves through narrative peaks and valleys.
 
Just finished watching so i'm still thinking about it but one thing that kept sticking out in my mind was the fights with the people of Alexandria. These people are supposed to be scared normal people who haven't seen much yet every time one of them gets in a scuffle with one of the group, it's a fairly even match. Off the top of my head Rick & Pete, and Glenn & Nicholas. Glenn & Rick are tough as nails & battled hardened and would have steamrolled the other guys. Dunno, just bothered me.

To be fair, Glenn WAS shot.
 

demolitio

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Morgan just makes me miss Jericho. That's the main reason I wanted him back.

I feel like they went overboard with the fan service for him, but I enjoy a badass that uses a unique weapon.

I think a lot of people were excited to have him back since it invokes memories of this show's beginning and how he was the one that briefed us on the story's setting through Rick's eyes. Of course the scene with his wife helped make him relatable but it's just cool to see some original character come back after such a hiatus and it helps that the last episode he was a big part of was amazing.

We best get one scene of Morgan and Michonne showing off their sweet ninja skills next season. Even better if they're dressed as ninjas.
 

SamuraiX-

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Eh, I don't buy it. Shane and The Governor are peers in that aspect so they should be tough. Pete was also drunk right?

There's really nothing to buy. Show me a single moment in the series where Rick demonstrated an aptitude for hand-to-hand combat against another human being. He's amazing at executing people and misplacing all his fucks but strip away all weapons and put him up against somebody as a true blood warrior and he's out of his element.

Hell, he couldn't even deal with Andrew at the prison or psycho Morgan in Season 3.
 
There's really nothing to buy. Show me a single moment in the series where Rick demonstrated an aptitude for hand-to-hand combat against another human being. He's amazing at executing people and misplacing all his fucks but strip away all weapons and put him up against somebody as a true blood warrior and he's out of his element.

I'm pretty sure Rick beat Shane in their fight during the exile. Shane threw a wrench that broke into the zombie spawn but it was the last act of defiance by an otherwise beaten foe. He also took him down during the Jenner situation.
 

SamuraiX-

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I'm pretty sure Rick beat Shane in their fight during the exile. Shane threw a wrench that broke into the zombie spawn but it was the last act of defiance by an otherwise beaten foe. He also took him down during the Jenner situation.

If anything, you could probably call it even. Both them were just stumbling on their feet by the time that wrench was thrown. Shane wasn't even focused on fighting Rick (who threw the first punch). Shane was trying to shoot Randall for like half the fight.

I'd give you that one at the CDC but wasn't Shane just going apeshit and shooting all the computers before Rick cheapshotted him to put him on the floor for a timeout?
 

Kazuhira

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Daryl proves once again why he is the best imo,the way he was ready to die to save aaron left me speechless,i was like "what!? noo,pls don´t die,pls don´t die,pls don´t die, pls don´t die"
Also,Rick blowing up that zombie´s head with his psychic powers,Gabriel unlocking the achievement "cleanest zombie kill" and that bro stare between Morgan and Rick was priceless.
This is the best season finale so far,imo.
 

SamuraiX-

Member
What do you mean? He's right. The Alexandria people are sheep waiting to be slaughtered. They're living in the past.

He's right about Rick though.

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RomanceDawn

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The Walking Dead: Where Blacks are the new Asians!

Seriously though I wonder if the comic or the show in general will ever get into what's going on over seas? How is say a Chinese province that prides itself in martial arts dealing with the outbreak? Not that everyone does it but you have to imagine there are places where a large number of people handle long weapons and swords and finally have a practical use for it all.
 
Rambo Carol was awesome indeed but that would probably come in second in the best/badass categories for me.

Best: the scene with Gareth finally revealing they were cannibals followed by Bob's"tainted meat" hysteria. Lawrence Gilliard Jr. and Andrew J. West both gave their best performances on the show for me in the scene to cap off episode 502 and the opening of 503.

Worst: Probably the ending of episode 507 when Officer Lamson is able to escape because his first name is also coincidentally Bob and he pulls the old "made ya look" on Sasha because she was acting like a simp. That whole setup and execution was terribad, like, CBS TV show level of cheesy. At least they made it up with the awesome intro of the midseason finale. "Shut up."

Most badass: SEAL Team Rick.

*two Termites sniped*

(somewhere in the shadows) "Put your guns on the floor."

Gareth: Rick, we will shoot right through that doo- *Gareth's index and middle finger are shot off*

(Rick reveals himself from the shadows with suppressed pistol aimed) "Put your guns on the floor and KNEEL."

Gareth: No point in begging, right?

*Rick eyefucks Gareth into oblivion*

Rick: No.

Gareth: Still, you could've killed us when we walked in here! There had to be a reason for that!

Rick: We didn't wanna waste the bullets.

*eyefucking intensifies*

*camera zooms in on red-handled machete*

Rick: Besides, I already made you a promise.

SO. FUCKING. GOOD.
That was my favorite episode this season...
 
Daryl proves once again why he is the best imo,the way he was ready to die to save aaron left me speechless,i was like "what!? noo,pls don´t die,pls don´t die,pls don´t die, pls don´t die"
Also,Rick blowing up that zombie´s head with his psychic powers,Gabriel unlocking the achievement "cleanest zombie kill" and that bro stare between Morgan and Rick was priceless.
This is the best season finale so far,imo.

That wasn't a bro stare, that was Morgan wondering who the fuck Rick Grimes turned into. Mr. "Life is precious" just watched a gore-soaked Rick shoot a dude in the face, Morgan is going to be used to contrast who Rick was and who he is now.
 
Not to mention he shows up covered in blood. Zombie Walker or not, it just seems awfully convenient for all this to happen in his favor.

It was pretty damn convenient, wasn't it? But that's television for you.

I'm glad Morgan is back, even if I was getting a Denzel in Book of Eli vibe off of him, or Kwai Chang Caine lol. I also don't read the comics, so no idea what these Wolves are about to get up but they do have my interest.
 

Chuckie

Member
Daryl proves once again why he is the best imo,the way he was ready to die to save aaron left me speechless,i was like "what!? noo,pls don´t die,pls don´t die,pls don´t die, pls don´t die"
Also,Rick blowing up that zombie´s head with his psychic powers,Gabriel unlocking the achievement "cleanest zombie kill" and that bro stare between Morgan and Rick was priceless.
This is the best season finale so far,imo.

That was most certainly not a bro stare, bro! ;)
 

Alpende

Member
I thought it was an okay finale. Glad to see Morgan back and the scenes with Rick being badass are still the greatest. I did think the scene with Sasha lying with the Walkers was a bit heavy handed and the stuff with Gabriel doesn't interest me whatsoever.

I just hope they won't drag the story line of the Wolves for an entire season. Having them clear it up in 3 episodes would be good, something like they did with the cannibals.

Minor comic spoilers

I was really thinking they would tease Jesus in a last scene or something, but no :(
 
I thought it was an okay finale. Glad to see Morgan back and the scenes with Rick being badass are still the greatest. I did think the scene with Sasha lying with the Walkers was a bit heavy handed and the stuff with Gabriel doesn't interest me whatsoever.

Yep. Let's keep religion to an absolute bare minimum, please. I don't need to see any rediscovering anyone's faith here, can't think of too many more things duller than the prospect of that
 

Mario

Sidhe / PikPok
Yep. Let's keep religion to an absolute bare minimum, please. I don't need to see any rediscovering anyone's faith here, can't think of too many more things duller than the prospect of that

My main problem with Gabriel is that he has been such a one note character the whole time. There could be a lot of interesting exploration on faith and religion in the face of the apocalypse, but they haven't done anything more than superficial mentions and zero character development around the theme.

Doesn't help that a character like that who has "given up" so many times should have been dead many times over by now, so his ongoing behaviour just isn't believable.
 
My main problem with Gabriel is that he has been such a one note character the whole time. There could be a lot of interesting exploration on faith and religion in the face of the apocalypse but they haven't done anything more than superficial mentions and zero character development around the theme.

Doesn't help that a character like that who has "given up" so many times should have been dead many times over by now, so his ongoing behaviour just isn't believable.

A focus on religion would just make me zone out, as it's done already the few times they got into it, and anything that can be said on such a matter has been said elsewhere a million times already. The writers on The Walking Dead sure as hell aren't gonna do anything interesting with it.

You see them holding hands and praying at the end, and now I'm worried Maggie is back on the kool-aid and Sasha will be going right along with her. Bleh, Gabriel is bad enough. Hopefully Morgan with his "every life is precious" isn't gonna be about that shit too.

Yeah, there's personal bias all up in this post but it's just so dull to me (unless it's about some crazy religious cult doing wacky shit, then maybe there's some entertainment value to be wrung from it)
 
For real.

Carol pretty much was the reason for the quick escalation in drama between Rick and Pete. Without Carol I think the issues at Alexandria would have been dealt with at a slower pace.

Carol was full of shit thinking she was so much smarter than everyone. I don't think her innocent act was actually bought by anyone. Someone immediately notices when she left the party despite her repeated "I'm invisible I'm invisible" and no one even ate her casseroles.

Carol's still got the superiority complex that got her exiled from the prison by Rick.
 
Carol was full of shit thinking she was so much smarter than everyone. I don't think her innocent act was actually bought by anyone. Someone immediately notices when she left the party despite her repeated "I'm invisible I'm invisible" and no one even ate her casseroles.

Carol's still got the superiority complex that got her exiled from the prison by Rick.

I think it's clear Carol let her casserole game slip while she morphed into a badass.
 

Vagabundo

Member
I'd love if Gabriel has become a hell and brimstone spouting madman. Standing on the corner preaching about the apocalypse as punishment for yer sins.

They should have gone full on barmy religious experience.

Decent finale and I'm glad they didn't off anyone important, it didn't feel right. It would have just been for shock value or to thin the herd of characters.

Abe is probably the most interesting character at the moment.

Also Carol is a fucking psychopath.

This is not true. She is very ruthless though now. She will do anything to save her "family". So coldly letting someone outside the group die so that Alexandria will change for everyone benefit is totally within her character.

I was a little sad that the husband bit the dust. Deanna is going to listen to Rick now because she only has one son left. She will be fierce next season I think.
 
I'd love if Gabriel has become a hell and brimstone spouting madman. Standing on the corner preaching about the apocalypse as punishment for yer sins.

See, that could lead to something entertaining but instead we'll probably get confessional's and useless existential conversation's
 

Mario

Sidhe / PikPok
A focus on religion would just make me zone out, as it's done already the few times they got into it, and anything that can be said on it such a matter been said elsewhere a million times already. The writers on The Walking Dead sure as hell aren't gonna do anything interesting with it.

I'm not saying it has to be a focus, but for having spent time holed up in a church and having a main character that's a preacher, I feel they have missed an opportunity. The religious aspect of Hershel's arc was more interesting.

I'm atheist myself but could appreciate a religious character if they had depth (which Gabriel doesn't). I don't really think they have really tapped out the possibilities here given the variety of religions and how people approach it differently. They haven't exactly gone down the path of looking at the End Times, Second Coming, Battling the Armies of Satan theme at all in any seriousness for example (Hershel's faith was in a different place). Having Gabriel turn around and into an arse kicking warrior for Jesus and quoting scripture to the annoyance of others while he does it would be an interesting spin for example and vastly superior to having to suffer through more episodes of the same suicidal lost preacher over and over again,
 

CorvoSol

Member
I'm not saying it has to be a focus, but for having spent time holed up in a church and having a main character that's a preacher, I feel they have missed an opportunity. The religious aspect of Hershel's arc was more interesting.

I'm atheist myself but could appreciate a religious character if they had depth (which Gabriel doesn't). I don't really think they have really tapped out the possibilities here given the variety of religions and how people approach it differently. They haven't exactly gone down the path of looking at the End Times, Second Coming, Battling the Armies of Satan theme at all in any seriousness for example (Hershel's faith was in a different place). Having Gabriel turn around and into an arse kicking warrior for Jesus and quoting scripture to the annoyance of others while he does it would be an interesting spin for example and vastly superior to having to suffer through more episodes of the same suicidal lost preacher over and over again,

I actually think Hershel was a great example of a religious everyman trying to cope with the problems of a Zombie Apocalypse. He wasn't full on "I am God's warrior out to murder every fucking hellspawn I can" but he wasn't Gabriel "I will whine about evil because I am evil" either. Hershel was a man who happened to be religious who was doing his best to cope with the world.

It was pretty damn realistic and endearing to me, actually. Hershel did what I think most any really religious person would do in his situation: try and cope in the face of some terrifying questions. I'm actually really glad Hershel came along before Gabriel in that sense, because Hershel's quiet, simple faith made for a much better character than Priest Whinypants.

I work in fast food, and lemme tell you, your nose grows deaf to being drenched in food smells really quickly.

This episode was easily a contender for best episode of the series.



Olfactory fatigue.

See, I don't know guys. Bo says you have to be drenched in those smells, and I'll allow that if you're exposed to it continuously your nose will stop smelling it for that duration, but it's not like the entire planet now reeks of rotting flesh constantly. When you've been in Alexandria for a week, shouldn't your nose be cleaned out?

And in fact, shouldn't being able to recognize that zombie stank be an incredibly important survival skill, especially for people like Daryl who are all about tracking anyway?

I mean if they lived in a city where the zombie stank was constant then yeah, but they're out in the open where wind blows stuff around. They ought to be able to smell herds comin' on the breeze and shit.
 

Razmos

Member
When I started watching the finale I was like "They had the finale extended for this? this lengthy ass pointless discussion between Morgan and this random ugly Wolf guy?"

The entire opening was just ludicrous, honestly. The conversation was stupid, the fight scene was narmy and ultimately it had no real point other than to introduce the 2 wolves, and it went on for wayyyy too damn long.

It's just my opinion, but damn, it could have been handled better than that.

I thought there were a lot of long talking scenes in the finale, a lot of them were important so I don't mind.. but some of them just dragged.
 
When I started watching the finale I was like "They had the finale extended for this? this lengthy ass pointless discussion between Morgan and this random ugly Wolf guy?"

The entire opening was just ludicrous, honestly. The conversation was stupid, the fight scene was narmy and ultimately it had no real point other than to introduce the 2 wolves, and it went on for wayyyy too damn long.

It's just my opinion, but damn, it could have been handled better than that.

I thought the introduction was fine but the execution of the fight scene certainly wasn't anything great. It did at least show us that Morgan has learned stick-fu.
 

Funky Papa

FUNK-Y-PPA-4
I think the W guys know about the walled off camp and are storing zombies in the trailer for an eventual raid on the compound.

Aaron left his backpack full of photos and information about Alexandria when they had to bail out from the warehouse. You can clearly see them rummaging through its contents near the end, so it's all but assured that the Wolves will come crashing. I don't think they knew about Alexandria before that, though.
 

Razmos

Member
Was I the only one to notice that Spencer had a nice booty in this scene?
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I'm grateful for the extra eye candy.

That's Michonne-in-leather-pants tier fanservice right there.
 

Vagabundo

Member
See, that could lead to something entertaining but instead we'll probably get confessional's and useless existential conversation's

I wouldn't mind if the religion conversations went somewhere cool. Like if Gab starts converting people and they become some weird ass apocalyptic cult and it causes tension in Alexandria to the point were it leads to civil war, all the time the Wolves are circling.

That would be cool.

Gabriel could be a really good delusional fucker if they put a bit of energy into him. So far he was been flopping around taking up scene time. The only impact he's had was to start souring Deanna on the group.
 
Does Rick have to choke a Zombie? That strength. Also found it hilarious how he came with the body and just dropped it in front of everyone. Okay episode. The core characters always find a way out to the point any danger they are in is never believable. Was hoping Glenn would get eaten for being so damn passive with that dude once the reached back to the community last time around but alas even he got out from under 3 Zombies.


See, at first I thought Glen was dead. Then when they revealed him to be alive I thought it was stupid.

But now? I'm thinking there's more meaning to his survival.

The people of alexandria don't understand the outside world, or how capable ricks people really are.
Nicholas left Glen pinned under three walkers. He had his gun right there, he could have shot Glen. But why? As far as nicholas was concerned Glen was dead. Zero chance of survival.

Glen surviving proved to nicholas what he told him back at the camp.

We are surviviors. You aren't.

I was looking at Glen through an alexandrians eyes at that moment myself, and didn't even realize it.

Maybe now nicholas will get it. Maybe he will still have his moment, but that was Glens' moment.
 
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