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The Walking Dead Season 6, Part 2 Sundays on AMC
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NYR
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Around issue 90ish. Definetly don't get over 99.
cubicle47b
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Yes, she is.
Nameless
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In light of the 'The 100' saga (**article spoils the plot if you haven't seen it**), I wonder if killing off Denise will draw any backlash. Relevant excerpt:
Theanine3D
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There have been very, very few deaths I've actually felt glad to see happen on this show, and Denise's was one of them. She endangered Darryl's and Sasha's lives for a beverage. I couldn't stop rolling my eyes during her little speech and anxiously waited for a walker to pop out and grab her. Hopefully the arrow in the brain killed her quickly enough that it was at least painless.
I wish they would have showed Tara's reaction, felt like a glaring omission. I'm guessing they're saving that for next episode though.
They make good points. But as an LGBT person, I'm not angry about this, because the straight characters in the show regularly have ridiculously cheap deaths too. It's a signature of the show at this point. Practically all of the characters have done something really fucking moronic that has put either them or others in danger, or gotten them outright killed.
I also assume Aaron will get axed too eventually, but only because I do that for most characters on the show to begin with regardless of sexual orientation, except for ones with obvious plot armor like Darryl, Rick, and Carl. Right now I'm fearful of Carol dying more than anyone else. In this universe, (almost) no one is safe. No one cares who you're attracted to here, they only care about how much food and ammo you have, and how capable you are to protect it.
I wish they would have showed Tara's reaction, felt like a glaring omission. I'm guessing they're saving that for next episode though.
They make good points. But as an LGBT person, I'm not angry about this, because the straight characters in the show regularly have ridiculously cheap deaths too. It's a signature of the show at this point. Practically all of the characters have done something really fucking moronic that has put either them or others in danger, or gotten them outright killed.
I also assume Aaron will get axed too eventually, but only because I do that for most characters on the show to begin with regardless of sexual orientation, except for ones with obvious plot armor like Darryl, Rick, and Carl. Right now I'm fearful of Carol dying more than anyone else. In this universe, (almost) no one is safe. No one cares who you're attracted to here, they only care about how much food and ammo you have, and how capable you are to protect it.
WaffleTaco
Wants to outlaw technological innovation.
So I probably should good till the end of the second compendium right?
LegendofDragoonLives
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How does any man drop Rosita, she's so sexy 
Lawd have mercy.
Man when did Daryl become such an imbecile? He allowed the only doctor to go on a run? :\ That was so stupid, awful move. They took all the medicine anyways, which made her coming completely pointless... And why is Abraham appologizing to the dumb mullet who thinks he can take care of himself? Had he went with Abraham, he likely would have never gotten caught.
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Lawd have mercy.Man when did Daryl become such an imbecile? He allowed the only doctor to go on a run? :\ That was so stupid, awful move. They took all the medicine anyways, which made her coming completely pointless... And why is Abraham appologizing to the dumb mullet who thinks he can take care of himself? Had he went with Abraham, he likely would have never gotten caught.
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so I know only major spoiler and that's Glenn gets bodied by Negan. However Also Daryl in the final.. ummmmmm did they just fucking spoil it? I already had suspicion that Daryl would replace Glenn because he already used a grenade launcher and killed 7-8 of his men, so I could see that line/reasoning for him getting roasted. I'm going to be pissed if they spoiled this. :\
LegendofDragoonLives
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It might draw any backlash, but if it does those people are morons. People die in the Walking Dead, sometimes being white, black or gay. The only people that are usually excluded from this are the main 7-8, in which one of them dies every two seasons.
Saying that, I hope more than one main character dies in the next two episodes. I want to see some damage. The crew has never really been hit too hard in almost 6 seasons as far as I recall. Other than maybe the Governor, but then again what did he do?
Napoleonthechimp
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Do you make it a point to try and stir things up?
No, it won't. This show has killed off people from many races, genders, ages and backgrounds. It's really silly to single out this one death as uniquely unacceptable.
Nameless
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Nah, I don't even know what I think yet, it's just something that stood out after reading Maureen Ryan's piece last week. It's also one of the major conversations surrounding TV right now so when the most popular show treads on to that very territory why wouldn't you talk about it?? Especially with the' Black Man Quota' being a thing that's followed TWD for years.
This is a discussion board on the internet. It's a legitimate point and we'll have the discussion with or without you.
Napoleonthechimp
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There is no controversy until people start hammering others over the heads with it.
Fortinbras
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That didn't save The 100 from the backlash. And it won't save TWD.
Characters in the world of The 100 aren't defined by their sexuality. Homosexuality is as normal as heterosexuality in the show.
Lasthope106
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This episode annoyed me for some reason. Denine did multiple stupid things like going exploring on her own, and not listening to Daryl and Rosita. Also this entire season are they just trying to kill as many characters as possible, like holy shit they are dropping like flies.
You could make the case very specifically for lesbians, I guess, but Aaron and his boyfriend are still alive. That despite his boyfriend's red-flag-you-gonna-die affliction of a busted up foot.
I don't think you can really read too much into who dies on The Walking Dead, since a fair number of people of all walks of life have been killed by now. The show is supposed to have that 'no one is safe' appeal after all.
Fortinbras
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Here we go
http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2016/03/walking-dead-denise-dead-lesbian-trope-the-100
Includes spoilers for The 100.
You can also say that about The 100. In The 100 even children get killed. The main character killed hundreds of people.
There is a specific trope and TWD can be criticized for using it.
Edit: http://www.blastr.com/2016-3-20/editors-react-did-walking-dead-go-too-far-twice-far
http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2016/03/walking-dead-denise-dead-lesbian-trope-the-100
Includes spoilers for The 100.
You can also say that about The 100. In The 100 even children get killed. The main character killed hundreds of people.
There is a specific trope and TWD can be criticized for using it.
Edit: http://www.blastr.com/2016-3-20/editors-react-did-walking-dead-go-too-far-twice-far
Man what is up with (possible The 100 spoilers I guess?)
edit: read up a bit, guess I'm late to reacting to that
I haven't found any lie in this quote
lesbians getting killed in shows lately?
edit: read up a bit, guess I'm late to reacting to that
I haven't found any lie in this quote
Piston Hyundai
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Published at 9:46, while the body was still warm.
It was one post. You're the one starting the hammering by trying to shut down possible discussion. This was also brought up in the spoiler thread earlier in the week so it seems valid enough.
Personally, I feel bad for Tara losing yet another woman in the apocalypse. I liked Denise as a character but they sure made her stupid as hell tonight. I'm not sure how I feel about the trope. At the moment I'm way more upset about how dumb they made Denise all episode.
preach. i have the biggest crush on her which made this episode more intense than it otherwise would've been for me. would hate to see her go
Who cares about that boring punk. More grownups please
Anyways he's a teen, all he does now is probably contemplate teen stuff like porking that odd psuedo girlfriend of his
Fortinbras
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Another one:
http://variety.com/2016/tv/opinion/...-denise-dies-lesbian-deaths-trope-1201734897/
Also includes spoilers for The 100.
http://variety.com/2016/tv/opinion/...-denise-dies-lesbian-deaths-trope-1201734897/
Also includes spoilers for The 100.
Content Roundup Episode 614: Twice as Far
AMC Inside The Walking Dead:
Talking Deads Inside The Dead:
AMC Inside The Walking Dead:
- The Making of Episode 614, Twice as Far - AMC
- Inside Episode 614: Twice as Far - AMC
- Preview of Episode 615, East - AMC | International
- Sneak Peek of Episode 615, East - AMC | International
- The Hollywood Reporter - Walking Dead Star Talks Latest Fatality and Taking a Bite Out of the Saviors [Major Comic Spoilers]
- Entertainment Weekly - Merritt Wever discusses Denise's big episode [Major Comic Spoilers]
- Entertainment Weekly - Dwight speaks! Austin Amelio on playing the new Walking Dead villain
- Entertainment Weekly - Josh McDermitt reveals intel on Eugene's shocking bite [Major Comic Spoilers]
- TVLine - Merritt Wever Reacts to Eye-Raising Twist [Comic Spoilers]
- TV Guide - Merritt Wever Gets to the Point
- Vulture - Merritt Wever on Her Big Episode of The Walking Dead
Talking Deads Inside The Dead:
- Austin Amelio, who plays Dwight, sat in makeup for an hour each day to apply his characters burned skin effect. It puts me in character immediately; it changes everything.
- While rehearsing gunfight scenes, the actors can only hear the quiet click of their opponents triggers. Stunt Coordinator Monty Simons uses special boards to produce loud claps to aid the actors reactions.
- Co-EP Denise Huth recalls Scott M. Gimple being very specific about a particular aspect of the sequence where Denise killed the walker. He made it abundantly clear that Denises vomit be unmistakably oatmeal.
RatskyWatsky
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Wow, Denise's death was really poorly timed in relation to the whole 100 controversy. And on top of that it's also unfortunate given the fact that it's kind of yet another example of the show choosing to kill off one of the B characters rather than one of the A characters. Still, I guess it's more dramatic to kill off the group's only doctor, especially if they have a big fight coming up (sure, the Hilltop has a doctor, but I'm sure he'll be busy enough with his own people...), than it would be to kill off one of the groups' 13 dozen hardened warriors.
lmao
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But as predicted, a kill-em-all show is a really bad place to replace a kill-em-all show if you expect LBGT characters to live. And yeah, AMC is probably wishing this episode aired a couple of weeks back. It wouldn't have gotten much comments in that case.
I'd be lying if I said this didn't bother me yet again. It's been almost a solid 2.5 seasons since we lost an O.G. type of character - the last one being Hershel. You could argue Tyreese and Beth but to me losing them didn't carry nearly the same kind of weight compared to losing Dale, Shane, Lori, and Hershel.
With that said, my heart sunk when that crossbow bolt went through Denise's head. It was the last thing I expected and I legit felt terrible that it happened to her. Haven't felt like that about a death on this show in quite a while.
Can't believe we're already at the season's penultimate episode. 614 was arguably the back half's weakest episode, and it still delivered some awesome moments. It just continues to cement its place as the best run of TWD episodes in the series.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
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The episode itself was decent enough. One of the weaker ones this season, but well done compared to your average setup/slow down episode for The Walking Dead. I'm glad they're staying focus and The Saviors are a consistent danger during the back end of Season 6. I do wonder if we'll ever get info on The Wolves.
I love the Dwight and Daryl rivalry, I hope it lasts for awhile. It isn't something we got in the comics because Daryl doesn't exist there. I remember everyone thinking Daryl was being introduced when that cover with the guy in the crossbow came out, who eventually turned out to be Dwight. So them both having possession of that crossbow in the show is so perfect.
The episode itself was decent enough. One of the weaker ones this season, but well done compared to your average setup/slow down episode for The Walking Dead. I'm glad they're staying focus and The Saviors are a consistent danger during the back end of Season 6. I do wonder if we'll ever get info on The Wolves.
The 100 got the backlash it got for more than just that trope.
Those are minor characters, many of whom don't even have a name. Major character wise, the 100 is way behind TWD in kill count.
HighResTomato
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Really hate what the show has done with Morgan the one badass black male character still breathing. I've got a feeling he will be joining the rest soon.
8BitsAtATime
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The problem is its not a legitimate point. She died because she was being loud and not moving forward. Daryl and Rosita are to blame for not shutting her up. Plus Dwight even said he wasn't trying to kill her.
It would be a whole different story if they killed her for being gay but they didnt...she was just in the way
Lol Z Nation had a Zombaby the first ep.
Do you think think people are saying she was killed in plot reasons for being gay?
Because that's not what people are saying.
Fortinbras
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Why is that important? TWD killed off a lesbian character after a big moment. Just like The 100.
Keyser Soze
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I think writing off Morgan as a lost cause is unwise. I feel he will devolve back into "Clear" Morgan at some point in the future.
Morgan is a ticking time bomb waiting to explode IMO. Once he is forced to kill he will basically lose it and many will die by his hand (foe and friends and undead). Currently his character is not too interesting, and that certainly is a problem, but I think it will lead to something down the line. I am interested in seeing what will makes him snap and what will be the aftermath of him snapping. That makes his character interesting to me.
I dont mind if the build to this is super slow once it actually ends up happening. If he dies as the current tame version of his character I will be annoyed though.
Morgan is a ticking time bomb waiting to explode IMO. Once he is forced to kill he will basically lose it and many will die by his hand (foe and friends and undead). Currently his character is not too interesting, and that certainly is a problem, but I think it will lead to something down the line. I am interested in seeing what will makes him snap and what will be the aftermath of him snapping. That makes his character interesting to me.
I dont mind if the build to this is super slow once it actually ends up happening. If he dies as the current tame version of his character I will be annoyed though.
RatskyWatsky
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I've been expecting a random death by crossbow bolt for the last few episodes (not last week though, for obvious reasons), so it didn't come as much of a shock to me. I thought they handled the scene pretty well though, all things considered.
But in that case the backlash wasn't justified. The character died because the actress became unavailable, they could hardly have her quit her job and move to a village that just happens to never be shown.
What The 100 deserves backlash for is the shitty new character they introduced at the start of this season
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
re: Carol leaving, do we think that Negan will capture her (the second time she'll have been captured in as many episodes), or do we think that maybe she'll take over (comic spoiler)
(don't reply with spoilers from leaks or previews pls)
comic-Michonne's storyline and become a pirate?
(don't reply with spoilers from leaks or previews pls)
TWD is a show that kills off major characters quite frequently, much less characters like Denise. Character deaths are more or less expected to happen on TWD. It's called misery porn for a reason. Add in the timing of the death on the 100, how the death happened, the things said by the showrunners prior to that and you'll have your powderkeg. I don't feel as strongly about Denise's death because she's hardly even a character. I didn't even have the time to actually like her as a character yet.
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