Isn't he the guy Daryl actually saved or am I not remembering correctly? He also didn't have a burned face.. I'm assuming Negan burned his face for running away? -_-Not surprising Denise died. She escaped it twice during the episode.
I feel bad for not remembering the guy who caught up to them and attacked them/hated Daryl, though.
Carol leaving came out of the blue.
Eugene is like the only one who can get away with being a coward because of his originality as a character, but I agree.. that was fucked up. Don't want him to die though. Abraham apologizing made no sense.I'm totally ok with Eugene having an awful death by the end of the season. Can't believe the moron thinks he's in the right when he got caught, got one of his people killed and possibly more had they not been so capable in a clear disadvantage. The only hope is that he can teach someone else how to make bullets for the crew before he gets off.
Still annoyed Abraham apologized to him. It made no sense.
That doesn't mean its filler. Filler is what doesn't appear in the source material. And almost the entire episode was straight from the comics just with some characters switched around.only had one S tier character throughout the ep. Rickanator was only in it for one small scene. It was slow paced and didnt further the overall plot.. and a B tier character dies at the end... yup it was filler to me..
I'm fine with him being a coward, I usually find it ok. But him acting like a badass when he's a complete scrub and having the audacity to ask Abraham to apologize to him when he got one of his people killed..Eugene is like the only one who can get away with being a coward because of his originality as a character, but I agree.. that was fucked up. Don't want him to die though. Abraham apologizing made no sense.
I think the issue is, and I noticed others have mentioned it the past few weeks is that this sudden fluster of hers is kind of unexpected and out of character, at this point for her character. With everything she's done it's a little hard to believe she'll start questioning it now because of Morgan, especially after she has seen that justifiably Morgan's own ways aren't good for this world.What's so hard to understand? The weight of all the kills she's done is heavy on her, she saw a glimpse of the kind of person she could become/is becoming, and she's scared/worried of losing that human side of herself.
Fuck yes.I will say that Eugene and Abraham on screen was gold. Excellent characters with great chemistry.
Hey!He we go fellow roamers
Benelli M4 Super 90.Daryl is using a badass gun goddamn.
Would you want to shoot your dick off as well?Why didn't dude that was getting his dick bit just shoot Eugene in the head with his other pistol?
Can we talk about how this came about? Were they being spied? Did Eugine spill the beans on their location/route? Was it pure chance?The problem is its not a legitimate point. She died because she was being loud and not moving forward. Daryl and Rosita are to blame for not shutting her up. Plus Dwight even said he wasn't trying to kill her.
Isn't he the guy Daryl actually saved or am I not remembering correctly? He also didn't have a burned face.. I'm assuming Negan burned his face for running away? -_-
-Mother dick."You knew how to bite a dick, Eugene. I mean that with utmost respect."
*Eugene has leveled up!
May well be the line of the series.. Never change Abe and Eugene...
How is it Eugene's fault Denise got killed?I'm fine with him being a coward, I usually find it ok. But him acting like a badass when he's a complete scrub and having the audacity to ask Abraham to apologize to him when he got one of his people killed..
How would you rank the group in terms of power?
Top Tier
Rick
Shane
Daryl
Morgan
Jesus
Second Tier
Tyreese
Abe
Caryll
Merl
Michonne
Sasha
Third Tier
Glenn
T Dog
Rosita
Bob
Fourth Tier
Maggie
Andrea
Herschel
Carl
Eugene
Crap Tier
Dale
Lori
Beth
I'm thinking both groups that were out were being spied/tracked. Dwight said something about Alexandria looking like a nice place or whatever he said. So they were probably being followed as soon as they left home.Can we talk about how this came about? Were they being spied? Did Eugine spill the beans on their location/route? Was it pure chance?
Not surprising Denise died. She escaped it twice during the episode.
I feel bad for not remembering the guy who caught up to them and attacked them/hated Daryl, though.
Carol leaving came out of the blue.
Wait. Who the hell is that guy who attacked Darryl? I watch this series religiously and someone that the show writers think I should know pops up and I don't recognise him?
Also is Carol reappearing later going to be some kind of deus ex machina thing again?
Wait. Who the hell is that guy who attacked Darryl? I watch this series religiously and someone that the show writers think I should know pops up and I don't recognise him?
Also is Carol reappearing later going to be some kind of deus ex machina thing again?
http://walkingdead.wikia.com/wiki/Always_Accountable
Don't worry, I had the same problem. Or maybe we should both be worrying. I think too much time had passed from that episode....plus it didn't feel very memorable at the time.
He had half of his face burnt off since the last time we saw him, so that might be why you don't recognize him.
Remember the diabetic girl that died a really stupid death by lying down with some dormant walkers? Dwight was the guy traveling with that girl.
http://walkingdead.wikia.com/wiki/Always_Accountable
Don't worry, I had the same problem. Or maybe we should both be worrying. I think too much time had passed from that episode....plus it didn't feel very memorable at the time.
Hmmm. I didn't even know that guy was with Negan.
And where was Tara when thry buried Denise?
Hmmm. I didn't even know that guy was with Negan.
And where was Tara when thry buried Denise?
http://walkingdead.wikia.com/wiki/Always_Accountable
Don't worry, I had the same problem. Or maybe we should both be worrying. I think too much time had passed from that episode....plus it didn't feel very memorable at the time.
Will tune in but really disliking what they're doing with Carol. She didn't even kill anyone that hasn't deserved it.
Have this moment after burning Karen? Sure. But after those cannibals and the wolves that attacked home? Just seems like a silly plot device.
Hmmm. I didn't even know that guy was with Negan.
And where was Tara when thry buried Denise?
Tbh, Carol's character arcs have all been rather sudden. Her character arc through S3-S5 had a lot of sudden shifts in character as well.I think the issue is, and I noticed others have mentioned it the past few weeks is that this sudden fluster of hers is kind of unexpected and out of character, at this point for her character. With everything she's done it's a little hard to believe she'll start questioning it now because of Morgan, especially after she has seen that justifiably Morgan's own ways aren't good for this world.
Fuck yes.
-When you were pouring syrup on the pan, were you trying to make pancakes?
What's the damn point? You can see why some people consider this filler. What did Denise accomplish as a character? Nothing.
Because they likely wouldn't have met had they not met up with Eugene and captured him first.How is it Eugene's fault Denise got killed?
At the standoff it was just Eugene looking for a diversion to get an opening to commence the dick-biting. He even says as much, stating he was "looking for a moment."
I think the issue is, and I noticed others have mentioned it the past few weeks is that this sudden fluster of hers is kind of unexpected and out of character, at this point for her character. With everything she's done it's a little hard to believe she'll start questioning it now because of Morgan, especially after she has seen that justifiably Morgan's own ways aren't good for this world.
I started watching from season 4, and in that season she seemed like the character that does what needed to be done even if it is fucked up.Tbh, Carol's character arcs have all been rather sudden. Her character arc through S3-S5 had a lot of sudden shifts in character as well.
sorry.IT'S BISQUICK! >:|
If you don't get it then I don't know what to tell you man. I've said all that I care to say about her so I don't feel like talking about it anymore. I don't really like the character tbhI never get this. The fact we saw her keep a list of how many she killed proves that Morgan didn't JUST change her, she's been keeping tally of what she's done for a long time. And then the fact she just faced her reflection in a life-or-death situation not long ago also gets to her.
Really, Carol's arc has been akin to the super-anime-characters that people hate so much, She became the infallible super-woman who always had a plan, was always ahead of her adversaries, and whom we always root for, no matter what she does. (I still think her messing with Rick's GF's son was too far.)
Morgan might have initiated this turn of character for the audience, but someone with her "power" has to face herself sometime.
Her (and the group overall) have short-sighted methodology of simply killing everything that disagrees with them, so they can stay safe. That can't proceed for long. Eventually, it'll either eat them from the outside (people will seek vengeance, just like they often do, and actually win), or the inside (they'll break from doing such inhumane things constantly.)
sorry.If you don't get it then I don't know what to tell you man. I've said all that I care to say about her so I don't feel like talking about it anymore. I don't really like the character tbh
na I wasn't taking it personally, and I definitely do blame her for the death of Sam, I just haven't been that vocal about it. The fact that she was capable of saying such things to the kid and meant it all (even if it was just to scare him) speaks the volume of what kind of person she'd become.Don't take it personally, ha. I'm just saying... the thought that Carol is changed JUST by Morgan seems juvenile to me. It comes up so much while browsing this thread over the weeks, and it seems more like people want a reason to hate Morgan for NOT being all gung-ho about killing, rather than truly looking at her character as a real human being.
I like the fact the group is working up to getting a real comeuppance after taking so many W's through knee-jerk kills. Should lead to a much more messy conflict of emotions, instead of painting everything they do as just, and the enemies as 100% unfair and cruel. The whole group's been cruel. Carol's killing of people in and around the "Kill Floor" is the kind of thing only videogame protags could do, and come out of unchanged.
And I still don't get how people don't blame her more for the death of Sam and his family. The whole group that was with him could have been killed, and his great fear was mostly inspired not just by him mom's coddling, but also by Carol psychologically attacking the boy.
Except Dwight says, "your going to let us in your complex, it looks just beautiful in there." Meaning they were being watched and followed probably as soon as they left Alexandria.Because they likely wouldn't have met had they not met up with Eugene and captured him first.
na I wasn't taking it personally, and I definitely do blame her for the death of Sam, I just haven't been that vocal about it. The fact that she was capable of saying such things to the kid and meant it all (even if it was just to scare him) speaks the volume of what kind of person she'd become.
Re-watching it, Denise deserved to die. Almost got killed three times and practically yelling on the tracks right before he death. She also damaged the entire group by leaving Alexandria in the first place as their only doctor. Nothing was lost when she died in terms of a character. Jesus, I hate when characters act stupid. Same with Eugene being a dumbass.
Obviously this will lead up to a big fight between those two women.Rosita obviously loves Abe though that one is more troubling with Abe's love for Sasha. Small thing to accomplish for her character I suppose.