bronk
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Glenn became the eyeball kid tho
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The Walking Dead Season 7, Part 1 Sundays on AMC
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MikeBreezy92
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I think people getting eaten alive messes me up(if at all) than seeing Someone get beat to death. Seeing Human on Human on a majority of my media does that but I understand.
I take it back, that shit was brutal. My boy Tyreese got a very nice somber episode to say goodbye. I wouldn't be able to handle seeing him with his eye ball popping out.
Spikematic
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Amazing episode. DID not see that coming. Very excited for the rest of this season. Hoping for some more Carol beast mode.
StrongBlackVine
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Just watched that episode. That was way too much IMO. I literally felt sick to my stomach. Eli Roth shock value wasn't necessary. If they keep that up I'm done with this show.
that Abraham-ba(i)t-and-switch ...
Glenn used up all of his 9 cat lives in Season 6. He was the knight in shining plot armor.
Negan, as a standin for the showrunners, showing us that - once again - noone is really safe. They are running the show. Big, important gesture.
Cruel fuckin moment right there.
edit: also, gf and i watched Westworld and TWD back to back, and it's quite jarring that the human protagonists in those shows are going through pretty much the exact inverse of their respective situations.
In TWD, no matter how safe you feel, danger, death and loss is always looming right around the corner.
In WW, no matter how grim and shitty things look and feel, you can (for now?) always be sure that things are gonna be back to 'normal' the next day and that nothing of consequence will really happen to you.
Glenn used up all of his 9 cat lives in Season 6. He was the knight in shining plot armor.
Negan, as a standin for the showrunners, showing us that - once again - noone is really safe. They are running the show. Big, important gesture.
Cruel fuckin moment right there.
edit: also, gf and i watched Westworld and TWD back to back, and it's quite jarring that the human protagonists in those shows are going through pretty much the exact inverse of their respective situations.
In TWD, no matter how safe you feel, danger, death and loss is always looming right around the corner.
In WW, no matter how grim and shitty things look and feel, you can (for now?) always be sure that things are gonna be back to 'normal' the next day and that nothing of consequence will really happen to you.
My fiancée and I have watched the show since the beginning but yeah, the Lucille beatings are by far the most gratuitously disturbing deaths the show has seen in my opinion. My mind is still scarred with Glenn's final words and the damage Negan inflicted on him. I feel kind of bad for Cudlitz because I liked him but Abraham's death will always be overshadowed by Glenn's. 
The difference between tonight and a lot of other characters deaths is that this entire episode really just reeked of misanthropy and dread. I understand why and I think they did a good job of showing Negan breaking Rick, and maybe an even better job of breaking the audience. However, it eventually became so over the top that I felt like I was watching a Tarantino movie. Dale had his guts ripped out and eaten, and Noah had his face pulled apart (which were both awful) but those were momentary, short events as brutal as they were. This went on for far too long (just like my post) here, and it became more about the brutality than the actual loss of a character. Rick's "visions" felt less like natural character development and more like the showrunners taunting the viewer in the most self aware way possible. I have to say though they made the most uncomfortable hour of television I've ever seen and have me mourning the loss of two characters hours later, so props to them for that. Even if the delivery did seem ham-fisted.
The difference between tonight and a lot of other characters deaths is that this entire episode really just reeked of misanthropy and dread. I understand why and I think they did a good job of showing Negan breaking Rick, and maybe an even better job of breaking the audience. However, it eventually became so over the top that I felt like I was watching a Tarantino movie. Dale had his guts ripped out and eaten, and Noah had his face pulled apart (which were both awful) but those were momentary, short events as brutal as they were. This went on for far too long (just like my post) here, and it became more about the brutality than the actual loss of a character. Rick's "visions" felt less like natural character development and more like the showrunners taunting the viewer in the most self aware way possible. I have to say though they made the most uncomfortable hour of television I've ever seen and have me mourning the loss of two characters hours later, so props to them for that. Even if the delivery did seem ham-fisted
.Napoleonthechimp
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As a comic-book reader I'm done with the show. I simply can't trust them to honour the original spirit of the comic book anymore after they squandered the tension of the season 6 finale and gave us... that.
No fucking wonder they had to go with
after season 6. I mean they effectively poured cold water on the beating by putting it at the start of the episode and ensuring it was
And what people expected: That it'd be spoiled before it aired. Well, it was for me... so thanks for that.
No fucking wonder they had to go with
a potential arm chop
Abraham (who gives a fuck) and Glenn (expected).
And what people expected: That it'd be spoiled before it aired. Well, it was for me... so thanks for that.
It's not the show's fault you got spoiled, and a lot of people liked Abraham. Weird complaints.
Ok , i guessed correctly. Season 7 episode 1 death spoilers:
My pick was Abraham after Negan said: "Took it like a champ". I mean who is more badass than Abraham? Didn't expect him to kill Glenn after though. I think it wasn't that emotionally powerful like his death was in the comics. Don't know why; maybe it was Lauren Cohan's performance. I though it was a bit weak. Expected her to freak out, like Glenn did when Negan threatened her.
Crash Station
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Why would he be getting hate? He didn't kill Glenn. I figured JDM would be getting all the hate.
Napoleonthechimp
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I liked him. But not enough for the scene to be harrowing, in fact it was merely tepid. For reference: the comic book scene was fucking devastating and shocking.
Arozay
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RatskyWatsky
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Just like Glenn's death was on the show.
Napoleonthechimp
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Really? I know a lot of non-comic book readers who knew all about Glenn's death and were mentally prepared for it.
No matter how I look at it this was (sorry to repeat myself) the easiest and most expected route.
Hell, they couldn't even go through with cutting Carl's arm off (which would've been shocking).
RatskyWatsky
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No one really expected another death after Abraham's though. And then there was the whole fakeout with making people think he was going to off Daryl before he turned around and randomly bopped Glenn in the head.
Plus, the show has rarely killed a character the same way as in the comic, so people had no real reason to suspect that Glenn should also die that way in the show.
The entire problem was basically in the editing. Ending S6 with Abraham's death and opening S7 with Glenn's would have been perfect, I really don't know why they saved it all for this.
Napoleonthechimp
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Maybe others cry tears over that shit but the whole thing was luke warm and I don't trust the showrunners with any aspect of translating the comic to screen going forwards.
You know what my reaction to the end of the episode was: "Ugh... what's next" *switches over*
That's it after all those months. Fuck AMC for that. I can't trust them enough to invest my time into watching their shows.
EASTC0AST_GH05T
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Tainted meat!
Well they got me with the fake out with Abraham. Well done. I guess that's the only way you could make the known death of Glenn a surprise. That said that scene tagged on to the last episode of the previous season would have had more impact and made this season that much better. Terrible misstep but onwards we go.
I think it's kind of funny that this is certain people's breaking point, like this moment ripped almost entirely from the book is "too shocking for the Walking Dead."
This is, and always was what Walking Dead was, and as a fan of the franchise this difficult scene is what I expected from the show originally, but they always seemed too afraid to go where the book went, which severely undercuts any of the really raw and emotional moments from the series. There's pre-Glen and post Glen Walking Dead, which is supposed to be a massive turning point for the story and development of these characters to begin with.
This is, and always was what Walking Dead was, and as a fan of the franchise this difficult scene is what I expected from the show originally, but they always seemed too afraid to go where the book went, which severely undercuts any of the really raw and emotional moments from the series. There's pre-Glen and post Glen Walking Dead, which is supposed to be a massive turning point for the story and development of these characters to begin with.
DreadfulOmen
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Thats t-dog.
UnObtainium17
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Looked at the comic version of what Negan did to......I can't. Negan please stop.
Shit.. pretty much me and my brother the entire fuckin episode.
It was? It's been so long since the Hilltop arc that I've forgotten most of the details.
I think it had more to do with how awful the show handled these actions. This isn't the first episode, but it's clear the program is closer to a show like Big Bang Theory than the HBO programing they originally attempted to emulate.
Not to say the program still doesn't have high marks on occasion.
Horsemama1956
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Why not just stick with the comics then? Seems like you have some wildly insane expectations or will never be satisfied regardless(or just don't like the show and want to shit on it and fans). It seems like you're in the extreme minority with your opinion.
This really makes no sense.
Eh, Almost everybody saw it coming, whether it's leaks or due to familiarity with the comics. I've read most of them and have a lot of friends that are huge fans of the comics. They've told me before that they didn't even care for Glenn's death originally. Obviously it's going to be worse here because it's a live action show so you can't look at a panel, mourn, flip the page and go through the motions on your own time. It was more brutal here because of how torturous and long-winded it was. The show runners were children lighting a green army man on fire lol. I'm not really surprised at everyone's reaction, comic reader or not. Question is how they are going to handle their deaths going forward. One of my biggest problems with the show is that the viewer tends to mourn the loss of a character more then the other characters do. T-dog got what? One throwaway line from Glenn? LOL
Lmao
This thread is hilarious today
RadioHeadAche
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After Abe's death, I didn't think Glenn's was going to be as graphic as the comic.
I was wrong.
I was wrong.
Brutal episode, I didn't think they would kill Glenn, but damn. I've had to spend the last hour watching random happy videos on youtube, that was a depressing episode. The gore actually made me feel quite sick, not something I've felt from a TV show before, and that ending made me quite emotional.
Napoleonthechimp
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I don't need it to be a one for one adaptation. I wanted it to continue the spirit of that scene, which is a scene I have been waiting to see for years.
Instead we got some cheap cliffhanger followed by months of waiting in which spoilers were leaked and a premiere that resulted in a moment that basically amounted to "psyche! fooled you!" in order to shock.
The only highlight in this episode was JDM's performance.
Also, I don't require to be in a majority to express my opinion. I'll state it no matter how many people disagree.
-Pyromaniac-
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comic spoils:
not sure if I read the latest but he doesn't OFFICIALLY join but he claims he wants to. Hard to get a read on him at the moment. Rick is letting him prove himself.
Yes
Major character growth all around. Negan is still Negan, but he finally realizes that Rick officially created what he wanted from the beginning-a "normal life" in this society, and he'll do whatever it takes to protect what Rick has created.
wow hard to imagine after the last episode
This being in the middle of pages and pages of people freaking out and being traumatized that they killed Glenn is really funny.
con-ca-te-nate
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I still can't get over that Glen's death. That was very unsettling
Yeah. They trolled his possible death forever, made you think he spared him only to do him in.
Kinda lame they got rid of two people btw. I thought it was funny how they had filmed all of them getting the initial hit, like they didn't know who to settle on.
I will say though, Gimple was on @midnight over a year ago and he said in a totally serious tone of voice that Glenn would get killed by Negan. I think they've been planning this forever but enjoyed trolling fans along the way, making them think the show would deviate from the comic and keep him going. Kind of lame.
Not sure if I'll keep watching this show, I show less interest with every passing season.
It's not that hard to be surprised about it when a select few core characters have some Luke Cage thick plot armor. (Looking at you, Daryl. Wait for the blow ups if they ever get the nerve to off him.)
I think it's funny, too lol.
This was a superb episode from the acting to the cinematography the shot after Neagan
where he was lit up from the car heads lights was perfect. I really thought the last 5 minutes were unescessary and they should of ended on neagans next week line. The dinner scene at the very end was complete cheese so I'm going to forget it happened and continue to feel sorry for everyone that stopped watching because their truley missing out.
killed glen
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