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1/4 Wrasslin' thread of Bret Hart, Hulk Hogan, and the new Monday Night Wars (lol)
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Raw64life said:
Is that what happened? They looked legit pissed :lol
Spiderjericho
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Didn't even bother to watch the end. That was one of the worst Raws in recent memory.
Indeed. DX wouldn't be so bad if they weren't burying people week to week and doing their dumbass poses with the celebrity guest hosts. Also wouldn't be near as bad if they didn't have to rely on Hornswaggle to help them win each week. Then when he does get hit, as the legal man, announcers get all pissed off and say they're bullying. Fuck's sake he is what's wrong with Raw more than anything else.Spiderjericho said:
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Naw, I just don't think WWE has an identity or a cohesive idea or direction to move the company. One minute they're pushing young stars, the next they're back to the old men. To help drum up interest in Raw, they have lame stars come in and sell their wares. We get the same recycled fueds. Too many vignettes and comedies, not enough action. I don't think WWE's fans know what they want. It's the blind leading the blind.
Random, but Royal Rumble use to have better hype.
The Rock-Royal Rumble
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUrv-7aBDdE
The Rock-Royal Rumble
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUrv-7aBDdE
I will agree they dropped the ball on C.M. Punk. Kofi...I'm not feeling it. He is like a Chris Benoit. Awesome wrestler, but the mic skills/persona just don't stand out. Pure wrestling fans love him..but thats not enough here. Hell not everyone can be Kurt Angle.
So realistically, who, if they even used them right.... could be elevated to the next level.
Because really, the guys with the biggest pop/heat/merchandise sales will always be in the main event. When has it not been that way?
So realistically, who, if they even used them right.... could be elevated to the next level.
Because really, the guys with the biggest pop/heat/merchandise sales will always be in the main event. When has it not been that way?
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Spiderjericho said:
The WWE is catering to a very young demographic these days, and that brings down the whole product IMO. The storylines are so bland, the wrestlers aren't allowed to do/say anything that goes past a PG rating anymore, and the crowds suck due to them being full of kids who only care about John Cena, or their glow sticks. Everything from Hell In A Cell matches to promos are being brought down by catering to these kids.
I'm not trying to put ALL of the blame on this PG Era, but I do think a large part of the decline in quality, more recently than in a long time falls on that.
There needs to be a propper balance between the two. You can't just build new stars overnight. Miz is getting a good push, which is good to see. But then you get guys like Sheamus, who have done absolutely nothing and get pushed to the moon. It's obvious creative has no idea what to do with the midcard. MVP gets knocked out by Big Show and is done for the rest of the night? Swagger getting jobbed out to Santino, and then buried by Mark Henry? It seems that everything on Raw revolves around the guest host and DX. Get rid of the guest host shit, get rid of Hornswaggle and start doing something with the midcard, and things will improve.
I wish Santino could actually wrestle. Oh well.
Personally I'm not that picky. I have been watching wwe since wrestlemania 6! In my opinion this is not the worst era. I actually like the guest hosts. Fans are never happy.
I remember when people would complain about stone cold holding people down....So really its pretty much the same....Someone ALWAYS wishing for someone else to be on top.
Personally I'm not that picky. I have been watching wwe since wrestlemania 6! In my opinion this is not the worst era. I actually like the guest hosts. Fans are never happy.
I remember when people would complain about stone cold holding people down....So really its pretty much the same....Someone ALWAYS wishing for someone else to be on top.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZMrOV22rRcjmdajr said:
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Brinbe said:
Or until their current fan base grows up....
GREAT SCOTT, I'VE GOT IT! They're starting over. Attitude Era part 2 coming within 5 years.
Pretty much. I remember people used to bitch about Owen getting pushed down to make way for Austin and the Rock. I remember people criticizing WWE for not pushing D'lo. I remember people pushing for Eddie to be champ, then bitching about his run just a few months after.jmdajr said:
Hell I remember people bitching about Jericho being debuted against the Rock.
" Oh Chris will never get over with the Rock in his way. The Rock can't
wrestle at the same level as Chris. Blah blah blah"
now people love that stuff.
PepsimanVsJoe
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Jon Heder blowing feathers into the camera was the highlight of tonight's Raw.
I wish I was joking. =/
I wish I was joking. =/
Finally, an excuse to post his theme song in this thread:avatar299 said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1g0ijSDqDQ
Also, his body armor was awesome.
B-Rad Lascelle
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Watching Trips and Shawn flounder about aimlessly in the ring off-script until Cena made his fashionably late arrival was equally amusing. Especially their very noticeable on-camera tirade where they swore at the ringside producers for the delay. G-rated my ass.PepsimanVsJoe said:
Regrettably the WWE has already told us the Rumble is going to come down to Trips "temporarily" robbing Shawn of his chance to face the Undertaker at 'Mania by throwing him over the top rope when it comes down to them as the Final 2.
They'll each get their desired match anyhow (the house show matches between Hunter and his training buddy, Sheamus, were reported to be almost unwatchable this past weekend), win each brand's respective world title at WM26, Taker's streak will end and then we'll be all weepy over the fact that DX will be forced to split up. Little Horny will steal all 6 belts and hide them under the ring because he can't bear the thought of DX not being together any more.
They'll have one final match at Backlash against Randy Orton, Legacy, Y2J, The Miz, The Big Show, Chavo Guerrero, Vince McMahon, CM Punk, Luke Gallows and the Hart Dynasty... bury all of their opponents in dominating fashion... shill some merchandise... hug... John Cena will come out to tell all the kiddies it's OK because they'll all be shedding tears in the audience like someone died... and then they'll forfeit the tag titles and go their separate ways to bury mid-card heels for a few months until Triple H inevitably turns heel again on RAW once the residual DX merchandise sales slow down. At which point he'll revert to burying mid-card faces before exchanging WWE title reigns with Cena and Orton a few dozen more times.
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...and WWE decided to go an alternate route. Wow.Lebron said:
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abstract alien said:
Everyone fear the 5'8" 210 pound Russian
MightyHealthy
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Santino's shootfighter gimmick :lol
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Striker said:
To think people actually think The Miz can come close to this level of a promo. :lol :lol Forget it, guys -- *no one* will ever be this good on the mic again.
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After he crippled someone he was never gonna get a push. I wouldn't be surprised if Owen was punished for dropping Austin on his head either (Austin would probably still be wrestling today if that didn't happen). But the tipping point for Owen was really the attitude era. Russo kept trying to put him in some "raunchy" angles such as being fondled by Goldust or having an affair with Debra and Owen kept saying no. When they came to him with the Blue Blazer thing he had to say yes because he thought he was going to get fired from the company if he said no to anything else. Thats also why he did that stupid stunt that lead to his death.avatar299 said:
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From the comments:Striker said:
:lol :lol
Remembering I suggested we watch all the Manias again before 26, only 3 weeks after my supposed start has really pushed back the schedule.
So for the first few, just gonna break it up into pieces for folks to watch, even though you can't really see the evolution without the entire product anyhow.
The one that started it all, Wrestlemania. Hauling from the greatest city in all the worlds, New York City, and airing on March 31, 1985, (in a completely non-essential fact, the first Wrestlemania is exactly 2 days older than yours truly so it is the only Mania I wasn't alive for :lol )
Now if this Mania had proved to be a bust, the wrestling landscape would have been completely different today, but of course it didn't as we are going on 26.
And the match of the evening, why it was the immortal Hulk Hogan teaming up with Mr. T versus Hot Rod and Mr. wonderful.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2LNmaTuztg
Other matches on the card included,
Andre the Giant vs Big John Studd in a Body Slam Contest
IC Title: Junkyard Dog vs Greg Valentine
So for the first few, just gonna break it up into pieces for folks to watch, even though you can't really see the evolution without the entire product anyhow.
The one that started it all, Wrestlemania. Hauling from the greatest city in all the worlds, New York City, and airing on March 31, 1985, (in a completely non-essential fact, the first Wrestlemania is exactly 2 days older than yours truly so it is the only Mania I wasn't alive for :lol )
Now if this Mania had proved to be a bust, the wrestling landscape would have been completely different today, but of course it didn't as we are going on 26.
And the match of the evening, why it was the immortal Hulk Hogan teaming up with Mr. T versus Hot Rod and Mr. wonderful.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2LNmaTuztg
Other matches on the card included,
Andre the Giant vs Big John Studd in a Body Slam Contest
IC Title: Junkyard Dog vs Greg Valentine
The Faceless Master
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i didn't even get the tiger woods joke until i read about it later, i thought it was just random dumb shit!Forkball said:
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Awesome Kong allegedly beat up Bubba The Love Sponge(Who is that?) and responded that it was for his comments regarding Haiti. No Kong, that was for Jeremy Borash.
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Wow.shesha said:
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shesha said:
I am sure the Orlando Screwjob Angle will wake WWE up.
abstract alien
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Well, he certainly looks more opposing than Mysterio :lolAlex Anderson said:
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