This is thanks to Red Kong XIX on the purple forum. But I think this is numbers based confirmation of what we’ve been saying for a while only to get Sony fanboys shout us down - Sony has not announced any major new games for the PS5, even though this generation is half done. Of course, COVID played a huge role in that, as did some struggles with live service games as well, but this is where we are as a result. Do you think Sony will fix their pipeline enough for the remainder of this Gen?
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11 out of 15 Sony studios have not officially announced what they are working on
This is thanks to Red Kong XIX on the purple forum. But I think this is numbers based confirmation of what we’ve been saying for a while only to get Sony fanboys shout us down - Sony has not announced any major new games for the PS5, even though this generation is half done. Of course, COVID played a huge role in that, as did some struggles with live service games as well, but this is where we are as a result. Do you think Sony will fix their pipeline enough for the remainder of this Gen?
Nankatsu
Member
Skifi28
Member
I don't see the point of announcing something that isn't close to being done. Then you go from anger for not announcing to anger for not releasing. When they have something close to being done, they're going to announce it like Astrobot. Personally I prefer this approach to seeing CGI trailers for years.
Punished Miku
Human Rights Subscription Service
PS5 will go out with a bang.
nial
Member
Another day, another PlayStation Studios thread.
-Guerrilla released a game 2 years and 4 months ago.
-Bluepoint is not a game developer.
-Firesprite released a game 1 year and 4 months ago.
-Housemarque released a game 3 years and 2 months ago.
-Polyphony Digital released a game 2 years and 3 months ago.
-SIE San Diego Studio... come on.
-SIE Santa Monica Studio released a game 1 year and 7 months ago.
And this is coming from a company that is publishing games like Astro Bot and LEGO Horizon just 3-5 months after their announcement.
-Guerrilla released a game 2 years and 4 months ago.
-Bluepoint is not a game developer.
-Firesprite released a game 1 year and 4 months ago.
-Housemarque released a game 3 years and 2 months ago.
-Polyphony Digital released a game 2 years and 3 months ago.
-SIE San Diego Studio... come on.
-SIE Santa Monica Studio released a game 1 year and 7 months ago.
And this is coming from a company that is publishing games like Astro Bot and LEGO Horizon just 3-5 months after their announcement.
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Angry_Megalodon
Member
Everything is fine for the Dutch surfer.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
nial
Member
I'm glad they're not forcing Polyphony Digital to make a trailer for Gran Turismo 8, a year after shipping Gran Turismo 7.
Magic Carpet
Gold Member
Waiting for that PS5 Pro.
The base PS5 has already whimpered out with a Debbie Downer sad trombone.
Astrobot going to get me back in.
The base PS5 has already whimpered out with a Debbie Downer sad trombone.
Astrobot going to get me back in.
Killjoy-NL
Banned
Wasn't this known already?
Not sure what the news is.
Not sure what the news is.
People have been saying the same about Microsoft Game Studios. Wasn't their showcase filled with games announced 3+ years ago with others being 2+ years out? Can't wait to see another State of Decay 3 trailer even though it was announced 4 years ago.
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nial
Member
hi
adamsapple
adamsapple
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
um .. ok ?
Not sure what #MicrosoftToo has to do with this. This is a topic about Sony's first party studios.
hi
Hi nial
FYI, Bluepoint Games is a developer. I don't know why you don't think they are one.
Team Andromeda
Member
Just wait to see in 4 years time
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
It is known. their big studios fucked themselves by releasing cross gen games in 2022. No one counts those as PS5 titles no matter what people here try and pretend.
If PD, SSM, GG had released next gen only genre defining titles with Matrix quality visuals and next gen gameplay like they did last gen, no one would be making threads like this.
Third party moneyhats like stellar blade, rise of ronin, deathloop, ghostwire, forspoken are not games PS fans bought PS5s for. We like Sony studios games precisely because they were next gen showpieces way beyond what third parties were doing. now they focus on quantity over quality. horizon is 100 hours. gow is 60 hours. gt7 finally has a campaign.
No, we want smaller games that push the bar both in terms of visuals and gamplay. Its insane how even astrobot took 4 years to make and they didnt bother upgrading graphics from the free pack-in. Fucking horizon legos looks better. I really dont understand the fascination with quantity over quality. thats literally not the point of first party studios. thats ubisoft mentality. make games smaller so you can release them faster. its not that hard.
If PD, SSM, GG had released next gen only genre defining titles with Matrix quality visuals and next gen gameplay like they did last gen, no one would be making threads like this.
Third party moneyhats like stellar blade, rise of ronin, deathloop, ghostwire, forspoken are not games PS fans bought PS5s for. We like Sony studios games precisely because they were next gen showpieces way beyond what third parties were doing. now they focus on quantity over quality. horizon is 100 hours. gow is 60 hours. gt7 finally has a campaign.
No, we want smaller games that push the bar both in terms of visuals and gamplay. Its insane how even astrobot took 4 years to make and they didnt bother upgrading graphics from the free pack-in. Fucking horizon legos looks better. I really dont understand the fascination with quantity over quality. thats literally not the point of first party studios. thats ubisoft mentality. make games smaller so you can release them faster. its not that hard.
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MLSabre
Member
People just want to get drunk off hype.
As for me, if you got nothing that gets released within 6-12 month I don't want to hear or even know of its existence. So, ditto.
blastprocessor
The Amiga Brotherhood
I need someone to dust down the PS5 for me.
Perrott
Member
That actually speaks positively of them and all the moves they've pulled to make up for the fact that some of their most celebrated studios and creatives are still taking their time, working on their unannounced games.
With PS5 sales currently around a million or so behind PS4 - following a worldwide pandemic, semiconductor shortages and, according to some of you, no games - now imagine how insane they'll be once the platform starts, again according to some of you, "to get some games".
With PS5 sales currently around a million or so behind PS4 - following a worldwide pandemic, semiconductor shortages and, according to some of you, no games - now imagine how insane they'll be once the platform starts, again according to some of you, "to get some games".
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
That’s a lot of GaaS titles.
nial
Member
I've already discussed a lot the development of Demon's Souls 2020, and how it was made under the direction of Japan Studio (particularly by Gavin Moore, director of Puppeteer).
Furthermore, SIE already confirmed this by categorizing Bluepoint as a 'partner studio' (read 'support studio').
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Ok .. but we don't know what game they're supporting on next, either.
Regardless, they have developed full games, be under someone elses supervision as it may be. They're a developer in that sense even if the next game they're making is a remake.
And haven' t they been working on a supposed new IP for at least 2, 3 years or more now?
edit: L LakeOf9 got it.
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yazenov
Member
# Soony
From June 20 2024:I've already discussed a lot the development of Demon's Souls 2020, and how it was made under the direction of Japan Studio (particularly by Gavin Moore, director of Puppeteer).
Furthermore, SIE already confirmed this by categorizing Bluepoint as a 'partner studio' (read 'support studio').
PlayStation's Bluepoint Games Still Working on 'Original Title' - PlayStation LifeStyle
PlayStation Studio Bluepoint Games has broken its silence to reiterate that it's still working on an "original" title.
www.playstationlifestyle.net
Punished Miku
Human Rights Subscription Service
From June 20 2024:
PlayStation's Bluepoint Games Still Working on 'Original Title' - PlayStation LifeStyle
PlayStation Studio Bluepoint Games has broken its silence to reiterate that it's still working on an "original" title.
It's still impossible to tell what that even means. Basically anything but a remake would qualify. It could be support work for God of War Ragnarok-2. It could be a new IP of their own creation. No idea.
Whatever it is, it is a project they are working on that people would want to know about, so dismissing them from any discussion about what PS Studios are up to seems silly imho
nial
Member
Most likely on more PS Studios America games, like the next God of War title.
From June 20 2024:
PlayStation's Bluepoint Games Still Working on 'Original Title' - PlayStation LifeStyle
PlayStation Studio Bluepoint Games has broken its silence to reiterate that it's still working on an "original" title.
My take on the topic.
Plus, didn't that ERA poster say this?
Why would you include Bluepoint, if by SIE's own information, they're also part of that category?
Didb't he also decide to not include LEGO Horizon Adventures as a contribution from Guerrilla due to it being mainly developed by another studio?
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Topher
Identifies as young
Glad we got Astro coming but this is starting to feel like a drip feed cycle. I think we should know the lineup that is coming in 2025 at the very least at this point. No way I think that is too far out. Hopefully we get a proper showcase later this year but I recall saying this last year as well.
Simple fact of the matter for me is I can't remember the last time I had this much apathy towards PlayStation. Making an effort to promote excitement for your brand shouldn't be this hard.
Simple fact of the matter for me is I can't remember the last time I had this much apathy towards PlayStation. Making an effort to promote excitement for your brand shouldn't be this hard.
Camreezie
Member
These studios arent close to being done with these projects after 5 years?
Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
vivftp
Member
There is nothing broken with their pipeline, what's broken is some peoples understanding of what SIE is doing. Anyways, since this is just a re-post of the thread on Era, I might as well just cross-post to put things into a better perspective. I'll quote a few different segments that you can expand if you want:
Breakdown of each studio, when they released their last game and when we can reasonably expect to see their next project:
Why isn't Sony announcing the bulk of their lineup multiple years out like they did in 2016?
What does vivftp think the overall lineup looks like between now and the end of 2029?
Did the "evil live service games" ruin SIEs output? No!
Is TLOU Online the reason we haven't gotten a game from Naughty Dog this gen yet?
Breakdown of each studio, when they released their last game and when we can reasonably expect to see their next project:
Why isn't Sony announcing the bulk of their lineup multiple years out like they did in 2016?
Sony is trending towards a shorter window from announce to reveal. Even if a game gets announced well in advance, it has been with a short teaser and the proper reveal comes a few months before launch. Studios should announce games when THEY are ready, no sooner. The job of the platform holder is to provide their customers with a large variety of steady, quality content and that's precisely what SIE is doing. What good is it to announce games multiple years out and put undue pressure on the devs? We have statements from folks like Neil Druckmann and Raf Grassetti telling us how early announcements can add stress on the devs, and take away resources from the actual development of the game such as time, manpower and budget.
Link to post/video detailing statements from Raf:
PlayStation Studios |OT42| Hot Bot Summer Sony - OT
https://www.youtube.com/live/5mYEv1sFl_o?si=xYIcdAJrKtiMbwa6 Good interview with Raf Grassetti. Timestamp to minute 15 and he's talking about the cost of showcase videos (in portuguese). It takes at least 4 months to make a trailer as we already know by Grounded II but he says this time is cut...www.resetera.com
Link to article on Neils statements:
Naughty Dog says revealing past games too early hurt the studio | VGC
Its next game looks set to be announced closer to release to help combat “work-life balance issues”…www.videogameschronicle.com
What does vivftp think the overall lineup looks like between now and the end of 2029?
Did the "evil live service games" ruin SIEs output? No!
Is TLOU Online the reason we haven't gotten a game from Naughty Dog this gen yet?
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Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Don't worry - it's not vaporware, it's GaaS.
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Punished Miku
Human Rights Subscription Service
I'd bet Ghost 2 is not close.
The Last of Us 3 is not close.
Horizon 3 is not close.
Housemarque, maybe something small.
Sony Santa Monica, maybe the new IP. Big maybe.
Media Molecule, no idea.
Bend, no idea. If they were working on Factions or other support stuff, might be a ways out.
Haven, probably getting close with FairGames.
Insomniac, Venom probably getting close.
Who knows. I don't think Astro Bot was on anyone's radar until a couple of months ago with the leak and even than did anyone see it being released 3 months after announcement? Same goes for Lego Horizon Adventures under Guerrilla. They're very much taking the more Nintendo route this era.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
? Apple has an event every single year. Literally the same month. Their fans arent left in the dark waiting year after year to see what they have got going on.
Sony has skipped E3 showcases four times since 2019. They had one last year and one in 2020. The rest of the time they have these random state of plays with B tier crap from third parties no one wants to play.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Ps6 launch will be crazy and all will be forgiven.
Punished Miku
Human Rights Subscription Service
Yeah, maybe. I'm definitely not planning on getting a PS6. First PS I have ever considered skipping. Maybe I'll change my mind when I see it.
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