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[H.Protagonist]

I don't think the government is going to do anything that involves moving people around. These men are just going to drink themselves to an early grave. So maybe they'll subsidize booze.

I think the government is particularly sensitive to unrest, in the sense that it brings in outside scrutiny and has the potential to undermine them if it blows up, so they'd do it to keep things stable. I'm definitely not suggesting they'd do it for any moral or altruistic reasons. It's just in their own best interest to nip things in the bud before they get too big to hide/handle.

And, 40-50 million sexually frustrated young men has a lot of violent potential that drinking won't completely wash away. (IMO)

 

[toxicgonzo]

Expect to see a large rise of violence in China.

 

[AllenShrz]

*Many - Applies to demographic of people living below the poverty scale and in non-metro cities.

Infanticide is non-existent in middle-upper classes now in India, but yeah, its still widespread in the nation overall.

It does happen in the middle class, besides the "middle class" here in India is a very blurry line. "middle class" compared to whom?

And also, it does happen to in metro areas. If they have the money, instead of going to the illegal clinic they go to Thailand instead.

 

[DragonSworne]

Guys, I think I just found a way to fix our economy!

 

[The Living Tribunal]

Can't they just send them to Japan, where women can't find mates or lovers due to the otaku culture?

Plan backfires, the chinese become otaku.

 

[speculawyer]

Well . . . I'm just glad they are not Muslim extremists. A few million young male Muslim extremists with no marriage prospects would be even more destabilizing. At least these guys can get drunk and blow off some steam.

 

[speculawyer]

"I get very lonely. No one cares about me, and I have no one to speak to when I go home. I sometimes get so drunk that I vomit," a 36-year-old migrant worker told researchers. "When that happens, there's no one to clean up after me."

Lol.

Yeah, not gonna have much luck with the ladys with that attitude.

 

[smurfx]

give those men a cause and they will burn china down.

 

[Cow Mengde]

Plan backfires, the chinese become otaku.

Except the Chinese and the Japanese don't get along well...

 

[kirblar]

Female infanticide is a huge problem.

 

[Zoramon089]

I thought I read an article that woman over 30 who aren't married are also shunned. How exactly is it that both genders are shunned over 30? Why aren't these people paring up?

 

[numble]

I think the idea of the sex ratio leading to lack of mates is an overrated issue. There are a higher percentage of unmarried people in the US.

There are many more pressing, but nuanced, social issues that face Chinese society, but don't grab the headlined as easily.

 

[GameplayWhore]

The solution seems obvious to me. Hook the poor sods up with each other.

 

[Cow Mengde]

Maybe they can fuck goats and chickens?

 

[kirblar]

There are a higher percentage of unmarried people in the US.

Marriage doesn't really have anything to do with reproduction rates or the ability to find a mate.

 

[Exr]

The solution seems obvious to me. Hook the poor sods up with each other.

Hooray for a more progressive China...LIKE IT OR NOT

 

[Phaethon0017]

Guys, I think I just found a way to fix our economy!

Assuming we're on the same page, those men have no money for online dating fees, let alone mail order brides.

 

[mr2xxx]

This is honestly shocking, no one could of seen this coming.

 

[SapientWolf]

I think the government is particularly sensitive to unrest, in the sense that it brings in outside scrutiny and has the potential to undermine them if it blows up, so they'd do it to keep things stable. I'm definitely not suggesting they'd do it for any moral or altruistic reasons. It's just in their own best interest to nip things in the bud before they get too big to hide/handle.

They'll also look the other way when these men frequent prostitutes. Which seems easier for the government than playing matchmaker. If the violence gets out of hand then they'll just send the cops in to match their feet with asses.

Trying to fix the huge gender imbalance would be the better solution but also the least likely one in the near term, IMO.

 

[numble]

Marriage doesn't really have anything to do with reproduction rates or the ability to find a mate.

The reproduction rate is artificially deflated, unlike countries like South Korea or Japan. They've been loosening it and would loosen it even more if they thought it was necessary. Everyone assumes they want to stay with an economy based on a large work force and low wages, but it doesn't appear to be the aim, with aggressive annual minimum wage increases. They don't want to be the center of low wage industry in the future (looks like they see Africa and SE Asia taking that place) so they don't need the same size workforce in the future.

Prostitutes (plentiful) and "leftover" women over 30 are available.

Assuming we're on the same page, those men have no money for online dating fees, let alone mail order brides.

There actually is a considerable amount of wives obtained from North Korea and SE Asia. And this also occurs in developed areas like Taiwan and Hong Kong, where its less due to sex ratio and more due to women choosing not to marry. I remember seeing TV ads in Taiwan for Vietnamese brides.

 

[monchi-kun]

This is honestly shocking, no one could of seen this coming.

if infanticide is the course of action at least do it like SPARTAAAAAAA!!!!!

 

[mr2xxx]

China needs to put some money into finding the gay gene and putting it into the water.

 

[H.Protagonist]

They'll also look the other way when these men frequent prostitutes. Which seems easier for the government than playing matchmaker. If the violence gets out of hand then they'll just send the cops in to match their feet with asses.

Trying to fix the huge gender imbalance would be the better solution but also the least likely one in the near term, IMO.

Prostitution can only handle a fraction of it unless they set up districts themselves and even then it's 40-50 MILLION guys. I don't think it's going to cut it. Cops are pretty low paid there as well. I imagine quite a few of them might be in the same boat around that time. Seems like a volatile combo, is all I'm saying. Worst case scenario in my opinion is that they redirect the aggression by being aggressive across borders. Not something anybody wants, but it has the potential.

EDIT: And agreed on the fixing the imbalance, but it seems highly unlikely to happen, unfortunately.

 

[monchi-kun]

40-50 MILLION guys....

In a row?

 

[SquiddyCracker]

Prostitution can only handle a fraction of it unless they set up districts themselves and even then it's 40-50 MILLION guys. I don't think it's going to cut it. Cops are pretty low paid there as well. I imagine quite a few of them might be in the same boat around that time. Seems like a volatile combo, is all I'm saying. Worst case scenario in my opinion is that they redirect the aggression by being aggressive across borders. Not something anybody wants, but it has the potential.

EDIT: And agreed on the fixing the imbalance, but it seems highly unlikely to happen, unfortunately.

Sex dolls are an option.
Cheap and easy to spread through mass manufacturing.

It's more of a stop-gaf solution until they can get the gender ratio balanced; or invent sex robot house maid slaves.

Encouraging homosexuality has been suggested, by I don't see social engineering of that sort of magnitude working with the relatively patriarchal culture present in China.

 

[shira]

They'll also look the other way when these men frequent prostitutes. Which seems easier for the government than playing matchmaker. If the violence gets out of hand then they'll just send the cops in to match their feet with asses.

Trying to fix the huge gender imbalance would be the better solution but also the least likely one in the near term, IMO.

China is sending a lot of students to Korea for university.
Pretty much the same problem of too many boys there.

Girls just gravitate towards richer and richer guys.

 

[mr2xxx]

Prostitution can only handle a fraction of it unless they set up districts themselves and even then it's 40-50 MILLION guys. I don't think it's going to cut it. Cops are pretty low paid there as well. I imagine quite a few of them might be in the same boat around that time. Seems like a volatile combo, is all I'm saying. Worst case scenario in my opinion is that they redirect the aggression by being aggressive across borders. Not something anybody wants, but it has the potential.

EDIT: And agreed on the fixing the imbalance, but it seems highly unlikely to happen, unfortunately.

Sadly The Triad or whatever gang will import foreign girls to satisfy the demand.

 

[Opiate]

Really makes one extra scared for the future. The government is going to have to alleviate or redirect that frustration somewhere, and I fear I'm not optimistic enough to believe they'll be able to counter it all with just a few imported wives. :/

The biggest problem is that the ones who would most need a mail order bride will be the least capable of affording one.

 

[H.Protagonist]

In a row?

All right. I laughed.

Sex dolls are an option.
Cheap and easy to spread through mass manufacturing.

It's more of a stop-gaf solution until they can get the gender ratio balanced; or invent sex robot house maid slaves.

Encouraging homosexuality has been suggested, by I don't see social engineering of that sort of magnitude working with the relatively patriarchal culture present in China.

Seems a bit too humiliating to pass out plastic dolls as 'comfort'. What they want isn't just sex but a future (as they see it). This is partially why I don't think prostitution is much of a band-aid even. Homosexuality would be a logical option (the Forever War anyone?), but as you say, it doesn't seem suited for China right now.

Sadly The Triad or whatever gang will import foreign girls to satisfy the demand.

As I said above, I don't think it will 'satisfy' the real problem in the end, but you're probably right that gangs and government will both find a way to profit from this collective misery.

The biggest problem is that the ones who would most need a mail order bride will be the least capable of affording one.

Nor prostitutes, nor booze, nor plastic companions...

 

[numble]

Prostitution can only handle a fraction of it unless they set up districts themselves and even then it's 40-50 MILLION guys. I don't think it's going to cut it. Cops are pretty low paid there as well. I imagine quite a few of them might be in the same boat around that time. Seems like a volatile combo, is all I'm saying. Worst case scenario in my opinion is that they redirect the aggression by being aggressive across borders. Not something anybody wants, but it has the potential.

EDIT: And agreed on the fixing the imbalance, but it seems highly unlikely to happen, unfortunately.

40-50 million spread out over 1.3 billion. It's a handful of guys per village, or a sizable bunch spread throughout cities with 20-25 million populations.

Prostitution is everywhere in China, you don't need special districts. I'd say most hotels not for foreigners (you need a license to run hotels that can serve foreigners) run a brothel or cooperate with one, and many lower-end foreigner hotels as well. If you stay at hotel, and you're a male, you can expect a phone call or two at night asking for special service, and there will be a bunch of cards at your door for "massage services."

Anyway, here's the stuff I mentioned earlier about NK and SE Asian brides:
35,000 RMB for Vietnamese bride: http://travel.cnn.com/shanghai/none/vietnamese-brides-sale-and-chinese-me n-are-buying-889067
Only 30,000 if you do a "Groupon" type deal: http://www.chinawhisper.com/30-thousand-yuan-group-buy-vietnamese-bride
10,000 RMB for North Korean brides: http://www.chinawhisper.com/chinese-border-residents-buy-north-korean-bride-with-a-bag-of-rice

 

[numble]

The biggest problem is that the ones who would most need a mail order bride will be the least capable of affording one.

To marry a Chinese girl would be more expensive with the dowries these days.
Here's the housekeeper of a New York Times correspondent, marrying her son off for 100,000 RMB (16,000 US):

ayi of 8 years excited, finally found wife for her son.He met her twice, likes her, ayi's family paying bride's 100k rmb, wedding in 2 weeks

https://twitter.com/niubi/status/299788033102843904

 

[Medalion]

Seinfeld-That's-a-shame.gif

 

[Kettch]

They just need to hire some advisers from Japan in how to get the population disinterested in sex.

...though I'm not really sure which side of the problem would be easier to solve.

 

[H.Protagonist]

40-50 million spread out over 1.3 billion. It's a handful of guys per village, or a sizable bunch spread throughout cities with 20-25 million populations.

Prostitution is everywhere in China, you don't need special districts. I'd say most hotels not for foreigners (you need a license to run hotels that can serve foreigners) run a brothel or cooperate with one, and many lower-end foreigner hotels as well. If you stay at hotel, and you're a male, you can expect a phone call or two at night asking for special service, and there will be a bunch of cards at your door for "massage services."

Anyway, here's the stuff I mentioned earlier about NK and SE Asian brides:
35,000 RMB for Vietnamese bride: http://travel.cnn.com/shanghai/none/vietnamese-brides-sale-and-chinese-me n-are-buying-889067
10,000 RMB for North Korean brides: http://www.chinawhisper.com/chinese-border-residents-buy-north-korean-bride-with-a-bag-of-rice

True, but as I said above, I don't think prostitution really alleviates the deeper part of the dissatisfaction they're experiencing.

Interesting numbers for the brides. Seems pretty out of reach for the poorer farmers still, though.

 

[Big-E]

As a foreigner living here for 3 years,I can say that I have never seen such a large discrepancy in looks between couples before. Money is seen as the most important thing.

 

[EVOL 100%]

Uh, that many sexually frustrated men? Results can't be pretty. I hope nothing bad happens.

 

[jasonng]

Uh, that many sexually frustrated men? Results can't be pretty. I hope nothing bad happens.

We should have enough MMOs to keep them suffice for the next decade.

 

[Ecotic]

Prostitutes, mail-order brides, and immigrating to Japan are all unfeasable solutions. I've been to these impoverished Chinese farming villages, and seen that most of these farmers have their entire year's fortune dependent upon one measly rice harvest. They have next to nothing, no money or resources to move, no marketable skills besides farming to move to the cities with. Their only hope in life is a fellow farmer woman to marry and ease the burden of labor and provide emotional support. If their villages are devoid of any unmarried women, then they are pretty much out of luck and with no options.

 

[numble]

True, but as I said above, I don't think prostitution really alleviates the deeper part of the dissatisfaction they're experiencing.

Interesting numbers for the brides. Seems pretty out of reach for the poorer farmers still, though.

The minimum wage in Shenzhen is 1600 RMB/month now, and factory work usually will pay 2500-3500 RMB a month, with dorm and food provided.

 

[FelixOrion]

We should have enough MMOs to keep them suffice for the next decade.

They can't afford them subs man

 

[mr2xxx]

Prostitutes, mail-order brides, and immigrating to Japan are all unfeasable solutions. I've been to these impoverished Chinese farming villages, and seen that most of these farmers have their entire year's fortune dependent upon one measly rice harvest. They have next to nothing, no money or resources to move, no marketable skills besides farming to move to the cities with. Their only hope in life is a fellow farmer woman to marry and ease the burden of labor and provide emotional support. If their villages are devoid of any unmarried women, then they are pretty much out of luck and with no options.

Do they have chickens?

 

[EVOL 100%]

They can't afford them subs man

F2P is the new thing bro.

In all seriousness though, 14% of the Chinese male population is nothing to scoff at. I'm honestly scared how that frustration will manifest in the coming years, especially if a political group attempts to exploits it.

 

[Eighty Deuce]

Do they have chickens?

Nice

 

[numble]

Prostitutes, mail-order brides, and immigrating to Japan are all unfeasable solutions. I've been to these impoverished Chinese farming villages, and seen that most of these farmers have their entire year's fortune dependent upon one measly rice harvest. They have next to nothing, no money or resources to move, no marketable skills besides farming to move to the cities with. Their only hope in life is a fellow farmer woman to marry and ease the burden of labor and provide emotional support. If their villages are devoid of any unmarried women, then they are pretty much out of luck and with no options.

I've been to poor Chinese villages and they're usually full of "old" (45+) people and children, with the working age population off in the cities. If you see a guy in his 20s just spending his life farming rice, you should tell him to go to the city.

 

[perfectchaos007]

They frequent prostitutes.... throw in a little porn and you don't need a stinking relationship.

Aren't porn sites blocked in China? And if it isn't, I wouldn't feel safe on porn sites with the government watching everything you do online over there.

 

[FelixOrion]

F2P is the new thing bro.

In all seriousness though, 14% of the Chinese male population is nothing to scoff at. I'm honestly scared how that frustration will manifest in the coming years, especially if a political group attempts to exploits it.

Until they fall down the hat rabbit hole

 

[H.Protagonist]

The minimum wage in Shenzhen is 1600 RMB/month now, and factory work usually will pay 2500-3500 RMB a month, with dorm and food provided.

Could do for them I suppose. I remember the wage being hella lower when I was in Linyi, though. My poor teaching assistant was getting an absolute pittance (+ room and board) from what I remember.

Your experience and Ecotic's seem to differ greatly, but China is huge and it is probably quite prohibitively hard for the most rural of rural to make it to the city. I do agree that there's a general one way flow of youth to the cities for the most part, though.

 

[Violet_0]

isn't prostitution illegal in China, on paper at least?

 

[MWS Natural]

they 'import' their wives from other poor SE Asian countries like Laos. They're also more subservient than Chinese women, apparently.

Damn how much more subservient do they want their women??

 

[monchi-kun]

Damn how much more subservient do they want their women??

It's all a ruse