2010/11 NBA Dec |OT| of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7lMXXaUaIo PEACE

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The Hoop Jet

27 min
13 pts
4 reb (2 off)
9 ast
0 TURNOVERS
2 stl
0 PF
3-6 FG
1-1 3PT
6-6 FT

I fucking love it. The ball movement looks so much better when he's on the floor and he makes such good decisions with the ball.
 
UltimaKilo said:
A-Rod has a history of doing that, he did that with my high-school and now calls himself an alum. Would it piss me off? Probably not. If Hanley Ramirez wanted to leave the Marlins at the END of his contract while consistently earning an all-star nod on a team that isn't surrounding him with the players he needs to go deep into the playoffs, and then bolts for the Yankees for a major contract... I'd have no problem with it.
For many reasons, a player of A-Rod's caliber would have to support his high school whether he liked it or not. It comes with the job. You know this.

It seems that when the owners say "it's just business" to the players, it's usually OK. However when the tables turn, things get Heated.
If it was just business, then why couldn't Lebron call Cleveland's FO at anytime between the loss the to Celtics and his primetime 'fuck you' to the city? FAs wanted to sign there, trades could be made, big name coaches wanted to come in - none of it could happen because Lebron couldn't give anyone a straight, professional answer. It wasn't "just business" it was childish and unprofessional, and because of that, Cleveland isn't going to be able to move on nearly as fast it would've if Lebron had just been straight up with them.

There are a lot of athletes who are actually worth criticizing, but because their talents don't compare, nobody cares.

Heat fans are also used to being the villains after Riles bolted the Knicks for Miami, and I don't mind it.
Uh, flatter yourself much? One of the biggest, valid, critiques of Lebron as a player is his lack of a real skillset. He's got all the natural abilities and physical gifts that a basketball player could ever want - but he hasn't developed his game since his 3rd year in the league and makes a living out of running guys over. This is a valid critique of Lebron. Don't get butthurt whenever someone brings it up.

Miami wasn't a relevant playoff team for a while. When Riley left New York, it wasn't that big of a deal.
 
siddx said:
If I want fundamentals I'll watch the WNBA. If I want to see someone perform physical acts that less than 1% of the population can do, i'll watch Lebron James crab dribble his ass to a spectacular dunk.

I'm only half joking. I'm a thunder fan for fundamentals...well last year I was, don't know wtf is up this year. But sometimes I want to see players entertain me in the same way I'll go see a mindless action movie for the oohs and aahs. And there is nothing wrong with that. We pay these man children disgusting amounts of money to entertain us. If that means taking 3 steps and running someone over to make an amazing dunk, I am ok with that once in a while. As long as it doesn't become the standard across the board.

The Spurs have been the epitome of fundamental for years now. Of course, they do have an Argentine on the team.
Che!
 
UltimaKilo said:
That's not a good enough reason to say he's not a true fan. But he's probably not. A few of us who bleed Miami sports laugh when we remember going to empty Heat and Marlins games where you could literally talk to the players from your seats. :(

It is though, at least as far as this thread is concerned.

That's why, as much shit as I give Pheeknicks here, at least I can say he was here reppin' the Heat, (even in that season) irregardless.

Cerrius as well.
 
mckmas8808 said:
Cleveland will stay the city of losers as far as fans go and I hope that city never wins a Championship ever again in any sport. And yes I'll admit right now that Lebron didn't seem to have his A game half way through that series. But am I suppose to take 2 or so games and act like the Cavs didn't win a title because of that?

No, the Cavs didn't win cause they just weren't a good enough team. But as a player you should always give your best. I wasn't hanging around this thread during that series so its not like I had that thought implanted, I remember vividly watching those games with my dad and brother and being baffled at how Lebron was playing. Personally I didn't care, they were not my team but I did feel bad for Cleveland at the time and I knew Lebron was not going to play for them again.

Now does that mean Lebron is forever a quitter and a loser, no, of course not. Players can be redeemed and it is usually done by winning. The situation we have here though makes it very easy for people to make excuses that even if we do win he still doesn't deserve the credit.
 
NomarTyme said:
Gasol is a freaking blackhole.

cuz he has to play like the the whole game every time cuz phils too stubborn to play caracter but now that hes injured he'll be even more ineffective =(
 
UltimaKilo said:
The Spurs have been the epitome of fundamental for years now. Of course, they do have an Argentine on the team.
Che!

And he is spectacular...when he isn't flopping like a little girl :lol
 
ryutaro's mama said:
It is though, at least as far as this thread is concerned.

That's why, as much shit as I give Pheeknicks here, at least I can say he was here reppin' the Heat, (even in that season) irregardless.

Cerrius as well.
Cerrius was right about Beaz!
 
The Chosen One said:
I'm sure going into the series, he wanted to win. But when the Celtics proved to be formidable opponents and things seemed to be in doubt, Lebron clearly checked out and basically didn't give a shit anymore.
Maybe it was his issues with Mike Brown. Or maybe it was Delonte banging his mom. Or maybe it was his elbow. Pick your excuse. Regardless it was clear to any competent observer that by midway through the series, winning was a secondary issue for Lebron. For someone who is the MVP, this is utterly shameful and pathetic. He did just enough to get his stat-line and that was it. He deserves the hate. People finally see him for the fake superstar he is. All image, no heart.

How can he be a fake superstar? See this is the hate that's seem so pathetic to me. Kobe literally gave up on his teams too years ago. Do you think Kobe is a fake superstar?
 
ryutaro's mama said:
It is though, at least as far as this thread is concerned.

That's why, as much shit as I give Pheeknicks here, at least I can say he was here reppin' the Heat, (even in that season) irregardless.

Cerrius as well.

Maybe he wasn't into basketball then? Maybe he didn't enjoy posting in this thread then? There are a million other reasons someone might not be a vocal supporter of their team year in and year out. In my case I was born and raised overseas and have never lived anyone long enough to feel a strong connection to a team or region.
It's also far easier to claim year in and out support of a team is the only qualification for being a real fan when your team is the Lakers and have had far more great seasons than bad in the last 20 years.

The Crimson Blur said:
And then the Lakers decided they'd rather not lose this game.



Aren't you the kid who is a fan of a dozen teams or something?

Naw i'm the 28 year man who is a fan of basketball in general and enjoys watching several teams play.
 
ryutaro's mama said:
It is though, at least as far as this thread is concerned.

That's why, as much shit as I give Pheeknicks here, at least I can say he was here reppin' the Heat, (even in that season) irregardless.

Cerrius as well.

I assume you guys are all joking around when you talk about lifelongs and such, right. You really don't believe that just cause someone doesn't post here that they are not real fans of a team right.
 
The Crimson Blur said:
Nah I'm pretty sure there is only one reason.

They're bandwagoners.

lol and people call heat fans unreasonable and delusional.
 
mckmas8808 said:
How can he be a fake superstar? See this is the hate that's seem so pathetic to me. Kobe literally gave up on his teams too years ago. Do you think Kobe is a fake superstar?
No one goes on and on about how Kobe didn't give up. Even Laker fans will admit that. He did it twice (although it was after busting his ass at least at one point during the series - never for 3 games in one series, but thats a different can of worms).

LeBron laid an egg, and it just happened. It didn't happen years ago, it happened last season. Kobe got shit for it until he won it all. Even if people were more forgiving in Lebron's case, he's still going to get shit for it until the next time the playoffs roll around.
 
I like how Blake Griffin always bounces back up. He doesn't belabor it like sooo many other players. He's basically saying, "Try again, I felt nothing".
 
so since paus been overworked and bynums coming back soon should i trade him for dwight or gerald wallace(both owners keep offering me one of those guys) unless i should be targeting another big
 
Seriously, how many times in history has a team gone to the free-throw line, down by one, and ended up down by two at the end of it?
 
Branduil said:
Yes, it's unfortunate, but Cleveland lifelonger that he is, Ryutaru is still quite mad.

In all seriousness shouldn't Ryutaru be more made at Dan Gilbert right now? He owns the team and did a terrible job firing the coach and GM before Lebron even made a decision.

DY_nasty said:
If it was just business, then why couldn't Lebron call Cleveland's FO at anytime between the loss the to Celtics and his primetime 'fuck you' to the city? FAs wanted to sign there, trades could be made, big name coaches wanted to come in - none of it could happen because Lebron couldn't give anyone a straight, professional answer. It wasn't "just business" it was childish and unprofessional, and because of that, Cleveland isn't going to be able to move on nearly as fast it would've if Lebron had just been straight up with them.

Uh, flatter yourself much? One of the biggest, valid, critiques of Lebron as a player is his lack of a real skillset. He's got all the natural abilities and physical gifts that a basketball player could ever want - but he hasn't developed his game since his 3rd year in the league and makes a living out of running guys over. This is a valid critique of Lebron. Don't get butthurt whenever someone brings it up.
Miami wasn't a relevant playoff team for a while. When Riley left New York, it wasn't that big of a deal.

Would any good FAs have signed for the Cavs if Lebron didn't make a firm commitment to stay? And you are crazy to say that Lebron doesn't have any good skill sets. He has good vision, able to handle the ball, can penetrate to the lane, can hit mid range jumpers from time to time, also is good on D, and can rebound.
 
MiamiWesker said:
I assume you guys are all joking around when you talk about lifelongs and such, right. You really don't believe that just cause someone doesn't post here that they are not real fans of a team right.

You really don't get it.

We cap on people that appear out of nowhere to "rep their squad" and disappear when they lose or aren't doing too well.

If you are content to lurk and be a fan, cool, do that win or lose.

But people don't and that's why they get ripped.
 
MiamiWesker said:
I assume you guys are all joking around when you talk about lifelongs and such, right. You really don't believe that just cause someone doesn't post here that they are not real fans of a team right.
they're not joking, which is ridiculous- I'm a huuuuuuuuuuuuuge dolphin fan, and I rarely post in the NFL thread. In fact, i think I only started posting there 2 years ago.
 
mckmas8808 said:
In all seriousness shouldn't Ryutaru be more made at Dan Gilbert right now? He owns the team and did a terrible job firing the coach and GM before Lebron even made a decision.

Yes, he should I agree. Ryutaru should write a very angry letter to Dan letting him know how he feels. And do it in comics sans to show he's serious.
 
mckmas8808 said:
In all seriousness shouldn't Ryutaru be more made at Dan Gilbert right now? He owns the team and did a terrible job firing the coach and GM before Lebron even made a decision.

Ryutaro should tear off all the Cav banners he has on his wall because of what Dan did to his team smh

I don't even know why he still follows the Cavs. Poor fellow.
 
mckmas8808 said:
In all seriousness shouldn't Ryutaru be more made at Dan Gilbert right now? He owns the team and did a terrible job firing the coach and GM before Lebron even made a decision.

Yes, Dan Gilbert screwed us big time letting LeBron go.

I hate him forever.

>:{
 
DY_nasty said:
For many reasons, a player of A-Rod's caliber would have to support his high school whether he liked it or not. It comes with the job. You know this.

A-Rod left our high school for his junior year to another school that offered more "perks". Once our school was considered one of the most prestigious in the Florida sports world, he wanted to associate himself with it although he never stayed for 4 years.

If it was just business, then why couldn't Lebron call Cleveland's FO at anytime between the loss the to Celtics and his primetime 'fuck you' to the city? FAs wanted to sign there, trades could be made, big name coaches wanted to come in - none of it could happen because Lebron couldn't give anyone a straight, professional answer. It wasn't "just business" it was childish and unprofessional, and because of that, Cleveland isn't going to be able to move on nearly as fast it would've if Lebron had just been straight up with them

You'll have no argument from me there. But if you think about it, his prime-time "decision" raised millions for the boys and girls club. That being said, it was mishandled to the point of unprofessional. But nonetheless, it's just a business. Much the same as when a player is escorted off the premises once he is traded or released from a team. It's not personal. [/Quote]

Uh, flatter yourself much? One of the biggest, valid, critiques of Lebron as a player is his lack of a real skillset. He's got all the natural abilities and physical gifts that a basketball player could ever want - but he hasn't developed his game since his 3rd year in the league and makes a living out of running guys over. This is a valid critique of Lebron. Don't get butthurt whenever someone brings it up.

I don't understand why you're getting sensitive but I never said I wouldn't love for Lebron to work on his shooting and it's aggravating when he becomes LeBrick, but to say he hasn't improved at all? He's becoming a better passer and is now posting-up like I've never seen him do before.

Miami wasn't a relevant playoff team for a while. When Riley left New York, it wasn't that big of a deal.
When we were making our deep pushes into the playoffs in the 90s, and the Heat-Knicks games got tense, Miami was always the villain. I remember those games fondly, they were part of my childhood and I loved being hated.
 
Phil Jackson's rotations are idiotic. Kobe has only played 24 mins tonight and has been out since the 3 min mark of the 3rd. Pau isn't effective and we had a chance to put the Clipps away but nooooooooo. He refuses to put Kobe in even though the game is close

Lamar and Kobe should have been back in this game to start the 4th
 
mckmas8808 said:
In all seriousness shouldn't Ryutaru be more made at Dan Gilbert right now? He owns the team and did a terrible job firing the coach and GM before Lebron even made a decision.

Oh my God. :lol :lol :lol

No, please. Keep going. :lol
 
ryutaro's mama said:
You really don't get it.

We cap on people that appear out of nowhere to "rep their squad" and disappear when they lose or aren't doing too well.

If you are content to lurk and be a fan, cool, do that win or lose.

But people don't and that's why they get ripped.

I do get it, that's exactly what I was trying to make clear to myself and to anyone that might not get it. That its all just teasing and not a serious belief that they are not fans.
 
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