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2011 Fall Anime Thread - Bad Shows & Self Hating Nerds
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PdotMichael
Banned
ummm... what was Despera?
Jex
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[Penguin Drum Spoilers for Episode 13]
trejo said:
Wouldn't that just make it worse though? Why waste an episode on what it would be like if the died when they already know that they are going to bring her back? That would be very inefficiently storytelling, unless you just want to see people being sad because someone has died. But, we already know that they'd all be sad, so it would be rather pointless.
Wheeljack539
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A Black Falcon said:I do, however, certainly agree on the final point. His inability to learn things like that is certainly one of the signs of his problems as a character. I know that anime MCs are usually supposed to be stupid, but Shirou takes it to a whole new level, and not in a good way, except maybe as a comic example of where the anime MC goes when you take the "stupid but determined" character type that anime MCs so often are to a logical extreme...
Fans have pointed out that Shirou is distorted with a survivor's guilt complex along with his inheriting of Kiritsugu's ideals.
The different routes present Shirou with different choices, and he acts accordingly with them. IIRC he gets called on his actions by Rin in Unlimited Blade Works and pretty much has them shoved in his face by
Archer. Fans have speculated that EMIYA is from a path extremely close but not exactly the same as the Fate Route, so basically EMIYA is Shirou (as you hate him) that has reached its logical conclusion: Broken, betrayed and hating himself so much he wants to kill his younger self to create a paradox to erase himself from existence and save himself from the hell of being a Counter Guardian. If it doesn't, well, then he's prevented another version of himself from suffering what he did. Archer's that jaded.
And, the movie didn't properly display that fight. Shirou was getting bitch slapped from one end to the other by Archer, despite being severly weakened by having no master still outmatched his younger self.
By the end of UBW, Shirou realizes that his ideal is flawed, and though still wants to help others has Rin watching over him.
And, the movie didn't properly display that fight. Shirou was getting bitch slapped from one end to the other by Archer, despite being severly weakened by having no master still outmatched his younger self.
By the end of UBW, Shirou realizes that his ideal is flawed, and though still wants to help others has Rin watching over him.
Third Route Shirou
pretty much goes off the railings as due to the events of that storyline he gives up on those dreams in order to save one and one only.
Oddly enough,
while Fate Route Shirou has the greatest chance of becoming Archer, he also has the chance of becoming the greatest Shirou, from the events of Last Episode.
Though, I will note that for myself Fate Route is still my fav, just beating out UBW.
darkside31337 said:
To be perfectly honest, I never realised it had actually been announced as an anime. I thought it was always just a short story-type project and never something that was going to be animated - I've been confused as to why it turns up on the Bingo card every thread when I never thought there was any question of it happening.
Infinite Justice
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cj_iwakura said:
wont stop people in the thread asking about its status
PdotMichael
Banned
Denpa Onna 7
Oh god, the combination of humor, Meme, great opening, fan service, mental disorders and memorable characters makes Denpa Onna worth watching. I see no reason not to watch it.
Oh god, the combination of humor, Meme, great opening, fan service, mental disorders and memorable characters makes Denpa Onna worth watching. I see no reason not to watch it.
Dedication Through Light
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Gundam AGE 1
Depressing start and possible overall, what is the state of the world in which a teenager schoolkid is the only form of counterattack they have. Flit is cool. The opening was nice though mellow.
Depressing start and possible overall, what is the state of the world in which a teenager schoolkid is the only form of counterattack they have. Flit is cool. The opening was nice though mellow.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Given the reactions to Bento... both?scy said:
Crash Station
Member
hosannainexcelsis
Member
Gankutsuou 13
Fantastic. Perhaps the best episode yet. The way they weaved together all the separate plot threads and started to open the curtain on the backstory, especially the surreal dramatic scene
, is exquisite. I'm genuinely excited to see what they do with
.
Fantastic. Perhaps the best episode yet. The way they weaved together all the separate plot threads and started to open the curtain on the backstory, especially the surreal dramatic scene
in the Mansion of State Secrets
this legend of the Gankutsuou
chickdigger802
Banned
Surprised people are hating on Gundam AGE. The character designs looks to be targeted a young audience, but everything else is pretty standard gundam stuff.
I'm digging the old school gundam look. Everything else is too early to tell, but I do hope it has the opposite effect of 00 which started off awesome before falling to peer pressure and became 'another gundam show'.
There is potential here, unless they go all yugioh zexal...
I'm digging the old school gundam look. Everything else is too early to tell, but I do hope it has the opposite effect of 00 which started off awesome before falling to peer pressure and became 'another gundam show'.
There is potential here, unless they go all yugioh zexal...
Jex
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[Penguin Drum 13]
On the other hand, the use of musical and sound remains excellent. It really brings to light how many shows just drop a musical track into the background of a scene without really doing much work to make it all 'fit'.
People sure have a weird way of speaking in this show. I mean, it's clearly deliberate, but still.
On the other hand, the use of musical and sound remains excellent. It really brings to light how many shows just drop a musical track into the background of a scene without really doing much work to make it all 'fit'.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Frysawwhatyoudidthere.jpgPdotMichael said:Denpa Onna 7
Oh god, the combination of humor, Meme, great opening, fan service, mental disorders and memorable characters makes Denpa Onna worth watching. I see no reason not to watch it.
PdotMichael
Banned
the good old love between a man and a good anime show
he is living the dream
he is living the dream
Ben-To - 01
I don't know whether what I just watched was entertainingly good or entertainingly bad.
She's more of an androdere, it's not like she's putting up a front just reluctant to be fully cured now.
Hunter x Hunter new vs old - 02
I'll keep watching both new and old the new is outright skipping certain touch's to the characters like Gon's ability to befriend animals or Leorio observing subtle hints when they went to meet the navigators, Kurapurika is the only one not losing anything at the anime's current pace.
I don't know whether what I just watched was entertainingly good or entertainingly bad.
Regulus Tera said:
She's more of an androdere, it's not like she's putting up a front just reluctant to be fully cured now.
Hunter x Hunter new vs old - 02
I'll keep watching both new and old the new is outright skipping certain touch's to the characters like Gon's ability to befriend animals or Leorio observing subtle hints when they went to meet the navigators, Kurapurika is the only one not losing anything at the anime's current pace.
hosannainexcelsis said:
The second season is fucking awesome-good. I loved it even more than the first season, and that's saying a whole lot considering how much I loved season one. You are in for yet another treat. More plot intricacies, more sellin', tradin', and negotiatin', and more delicious Holo trolling.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFGfWrJR5Ckicarus-daedelus said:
scy said:
You said the Harmonic Divine States make a return, but from what's stated in Episode 1, the creation of the Harmonic Divine States was a one time affair so far when they used Testament.
The Harmonic Divine States are most likely not a floating continent. It's stated they are a copy of the Divine States, which is the Far East/Japan.
A literal floating piece of land.
A literal pocket dimension.
If ABF's speculation is right that
the Harmonic Divine States were created due to overpopulation originally when Tenjou fell, then I can somewhat understand that interpretation.
Tenjou is either in the skies or, at worse, in outer space which I hope won't be the case. As I said before, Tenjou is most likely land able to float above the ground. However, it is possible Tenjou could be a floating city like Musashi, and they lost the technology to even rebuild that except the problem with that is it ignores the politics involved for forcing the Far East people onto the Musashi. Also, in a world where the Divine States is the only habitable places, the real value is own that, not a flying ship that represents the capital of the Divine States/Far East. So it's actually the opposite of how much the Musashi is worth in this world.
It's a time skip. A 200 year time skip. Hence, it states it's 1648 currently when you see the girl singing at Horizon's grave. It's the time after the Harmonic Divine States collapsed, and the people from there are in and occupying the Divine states now.
Things went south in 1413, and when the Harmonic Divine States fell, the people from there invaded the Divine States.
scy said:
Yeah, that now is either a mistranslation, bad writing, or simply the cause of the adaptation.
It really, really is which is why I said after reading it I could predict where the story is heading :lol
;(
More Hanasaku Iroha. Maybe it's an eroge.
PdotMichael
Banned
Denpa Onna 9
Oh wow, a baseball episode with a 2001 reference. Now I've seen everything!
edit:
oh, I forgot the opening song
Oh wow, a baseball episode with a 2001 reference. Now I've seen everything!
edit:
oh, I forgot the opening song
Geneijin said:
That's just bad choice of words on my part; I just meant that the people that went there return to the Earth again, which is precisely what the story tells us. Didn't mean it to sound like they're redoing the Harmonic Divine States, just that their occupants returned.
Yeah, they're a copy of Japan but ... what form does it take? Though, to be honest, I'm just not caring anymore on what the Harmonic Divine States were (since ... that land is gone now) beyond it being a copy of the Far East/Japan. The what of it is less important than the why of it, it seems.
Basically, almost everyone left the Divine States for the copy, the Harmonic Divine States; not everyone left, however. "Eventually", the people who left for the Harmonic Divine States returned to the Divine States and conquered it, splitting the Far East among themselves (to refer back to that map you linked, it's why each piece is sectioned to various countries like that).Those who were conquered are those that reside on the Musashi (and maybe have some minor territory on the ground? Dunno on that one).
That part I'm pretty much certain on being the case.
Maybe they'll expand on it later, but my understanding is both time periods are relevant somehow. Then again, the conversation mid-way through the episode has the kid with the computer(?) reference it's been 160 years since they were taken over. Forgot he blatantly states that :/
I guess they've just been stuck in the Sengoku Era ... still ... for some reason.
Probably has something to do with the Far East's representative being limited to an idiot since the invasion so they haven't been able to progress their History Reenactment. Or something like that.
Or just because they love that time period and need to shoehorn using it into this story somehow.
Crash Station
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One Piece 504
Just like I thought, the scene where
isn't any less ambiguous, but I'm fairly certain it's
even if that is way too predictable for Oda. Guess we'll have to wait and see.
Nice that we finally get to see Luffy punch the seaking that took Shanks' arm animated outside the first OP. Really weird that they cut that out of the first flashback when the series just started.
Just like I thought, the scene where
Dragon rescues someone
Sabo
Nice that we finally get to see Luffy punch the seaking that took Shanks' arm animated outside the first OP. Really weird that they cut that out of the first flashback when the series just started.
Master Milk
Member
Oh yea, I need to finish Steins . . .Articalys said:I failed I failed I failed I failed I failed I failed...
First of the two remaining Kugilolis is up. Let's see how well they do against the last remaining Steins;Gate character. Unfortunately it's probably going to be a bloodbath in favor of the former.
Hmm, Lotte was in D4, so I guess I'll pull for her.
Steins;Gate 03
There's an acceptable level of cutesy ditzyness, and then there's opening a microwave in the middle of an experiment and nearly getting blown up.
It's odd how Amane happened to know all that stuff about SERN and the IBN. Sure she had a reasonable explanation for each piece of knowledge, but it's a little suspicious all the same.
I can't hear the difference between the "right" and "wrong" ways of pronouncing "hacker."
There's an acceptable level of cutesy ditzyness, and then there's opening a microwave in the middle of an experiment and nearly getting blown up.
It's odd how Amane happened to know all that stuff about SERN and the IBN. Sure she had a reasonable explanation for each piece of knowledge, but it's a little suspicious all the same.
I can't hear the difference between the "right" and "wrong" ways of pronouncing "hacker."
firehawk12
Subete no aware
I'm banking on a prequel OVA with Momhana.Dresden said:
Eh, I disagree we're told this. We assume most likely this is the case based on the evidence, which it probably is, but we're never told who the occupants of the Harmonic Divine States were exactly (yet).scy said:
Well, based on the synopsis, the Harmonic Divine States took the form of a "pocket dimension," and it coincides with what form I thought it could possibly take when the Divine States got duplicated and where it could be placed. So a dimension which can house a copy of the Divine States.
And I disagree what it is is any less important since we're getting weird translations of Tenjou being "outer space," and if that's true, the story is even worse than I'm understanding it to be.
This is the most likely explanation, but I reserved judgment since they didn't explicitly state this. Then again, this is only the first episode.
Yeah, he blatantly states that. And yes, the time periods are relevant because if you understand how the story works, you'll know how those time periods are spoilers themselves because of what entails within those time periods :lol
So far it's just a complicated mess to justify all this "cool" shit in this time period pretty much.
Also, the History Reenactment was been in progress since the invasion. The Testament Union has been dictating as much ever supposedly since 1457 if we're using novel spoilers.
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