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2011 Fall Anime Thread - Bad Shows & Self Hating Nerds
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hosannainexcelsis
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That sounds like a combination from hell. Damn.zeroshiki said:
CornBurrito
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Double Dose of Saving Anime Thursday!
(if zeroshiki can be trusted)
(if zeroshiki can be trusted)
Un-Go Episode 1
That was really, really weird. This could well be one of the strangest first episodes of an anime series I've ever seen. Even after the episode, I have no idea what the series is really about, or who any of the characters are, or what the actual premise of the show is. It's supposed to be a detective mystery show, but there really isn't much of a mystery at all. Something just happens, and then the show explains it immediately afterwards. There isn't much deducting either, because it seems that there's some magic power shit going on instead. The entire tone of the episode was all over the place, and I'm really puzzled as to who the show is really supposed to appeal to. It's just weird and before you know it, it's over. Really... strange.
That was really, really weird. This could well be one of the strangest first episodes of an anime series I've ever seen. Even after the episode, I have no idea what the series is really about, or who any of the characters are, or what the actual premise of the show is. It's supposed to be a detective mystery show, but there really isn't much of a mystery at all. Something just happens, and then the show explains it immediately afterwards. There isn't much deducting either, because it seems that there's some magic power shit going on instead. The entire tone of the episode was all over the place, and I'm really puzzled as to who the show is really supposed to appeal to. It's just weird and before you know it, it's over. Really... strange.
Code Gease ep1
Lol clamp character design suffering from a serious case of anorexia.
Lol clamp character design suffering from a serious case of anorexia.
Standard stuff so far, I can already sense the bromace coming with childhood friend guy already.
I don't buy for a second that cliché mysterious girl that makes contract with main lead is dead, funny how she was so quick to take a bullet for him.
I don't buy for a second that cliché mysterious girl that makes contract with main lead is dead, funny how she was so quick to take a bullet for him.
Guilty Crown Episode 1
What happens when you get the director of Death Note and Highschool of the Dead to direct a brand new series from the writers of Code Geass, with a premise which sounds like a remake of Code Geass? You basically get a remake of Code Geass with more DRAMATIC poses and DRAMATIC pans and DRAMATIC music and DRAMATIC close ups. This is probably the most DRAMATIC anime on noitaminA ever. The music is kinda... crazy. It's good/bad depending on what you thought of the sound direction in Death Note lol.
I'm kinda surprised that for a pilot episode of a major new otaku show from Production IG and Aniplex, the production values seem kinda low. But yeah, if you go into this expecting Code Geass Mk2, you'll get exactly what you expect.
What happens when you get the director of Death Note and Highschool of the Dead to direct a brand new series from the writers of Code Geass, with a premise which sounds like a remake of Code Geass? You basically get a remake of Code Geass with more DRAMATIC poses and DRAMATIC pans and DRAMATIC music and DRAMATIC close ups. This is probably the most DRAMATIC anime on noitaminA ever. The music is kinda... crazy. It's good/bad depending on what you thought of the sound direction in Death Note lol.
I'm kinda surprised that for a pilot episode of a major new otaku show from Production IG and Aniplex, the production values seem kinda low. But yeah, if you go into this expecting Code Geass Mk2, you'll get exactly what you expect.
Jex
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Heh, brands are important, but what's more important in Akikan is what you're made of. Are you aluminium? Steel? Plastic?firehawk12 said:
These are important questions.
You're preaching nothing but facts. The second half of the season was where it really kicked off, unsurprisngly, because Sunrise often have the first 12 episodes of a Gundam show focus more on world building. Then it can really kick-off.Blader5489 said:
UN-Go Episode 1
Well, that was interesting, especially when
Guilty Crown Episode 1
Well, that gave me a boner. Great music and awesome action. The OP and ED are very low key. Although, they did pull out the whole "I can't do anything" bullshit.
Edit: Oops.
Well, that was interesting, especially when
the young boy turned into a very tall woman and used his/her Confessor powers on the guilty person
Guilty Crown Episode 1
Well, that gave me a boner. Great music and awesome action. The OP and ED are very low key. Although, they did pull out the whole "I can't do anything" bullshit.
Edit: Oops.
PdotMichael
Banned
uh? episode 2???
Infinite Justice
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e_i said:
Time Traveller?
If so how is animeGAF in your time?.
NeonZ
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They've also slowed down the pacing of manga material getting adapted. Ika season 1 often tried to combine two manga chapters into a single anime story, so with 3 stories per episode, some episodes used 5 or even 6 manga chapters. That resulted in a fast paced storytelling that sometimes changed topics frenetically.
New Ika seems to be sticking to one chapter per story, so everything is slower and more focused. The material doesn't really benefit much from that focus though.
New Ika seems to be sticking to one chapter per story, so everything is slower and more focused. The material doesn't really benefit much from that focus though.
PdotMichael said:
He/she only needs to time travel by a day I think? Aren't they showing episode 2 at NYCC or something like that?
Anyway!
Un-Go 1
This is almost quite interesting. They crammed way too much exposition and character introduction into this episode to make the murder mystery satisfying (they just kind-of zoom through it), and Inga feels very out-of-place in the show, but there are the seeds of something potentially interesting - Shinjurou is an intriguing protagonist (voiced by a real actor, doing non-seiyuu things with his voice!) and the other supporting characters are at least inoffensive detective story stereotypes. I also like the direction, as opposed to the writing; it's not a brilliantly animated show and this episode IS rushed, but I felt that the atmosphere strikes the right tone for this kind of story and it doesn't feel like it's going to go blasting off into complete rubbish.
One wonders why the "weird stuff" is shoved in at present; it's not very well executed and it takes the dramatic tension out of the mystery
why have a character who can force someone to reveal the truth by just looking at them with glowing pink butterflies? Surely it's much more dramatically satisfying to see the detective throw something in at random, or break them down gradually with evidence? Especially when Inga has to turn into a slightly irritating sexpot to do so.
Crash Station
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Guilty Crown 1
Incredible last couple of minutes. High-energy action, dynamic camera angles, good music. We get more scenes like that and this is a potential show of the year for me. It's pretty much Code Geass that may have more focus on human battles.
May have over hyped myself though because this wasn't nearly as dramatic as I wanted it to be.
Incredible last couple of minutes. High-energy action, dynamic camera angles, good music. We get more scenes like that and this is a potential show of the year for me. It's pretty much Code Geass that may have more focus on human battles.
May have over hyped myself though because this wasn't nearly as dramatic as I wanted it to be.
metsallica
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Every anime should feature music by Maximum the Hormone.duckroll said:
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Only redeeming thing about this was the antagonist. Even the twist was spoilt by their incessant need for gore.
Good thing I went in knowing it was bad, but I think watching all that idiocy in one go damaged my brain. Well I suppose it was a good laugh in the end, but I'm glad I didn't waste my time waiting for it on a week by week basis. I feel sorry for my friend as this was the only show he watched last season.
Only redeeming thing about this was the antagonist. Even the twist was spoilt by their incessant need for gore.
The apparently quiet village is suddenly filled with hundreds of citizen just so they can have a massacre. Well at least the killing methods were creative and they actually had the intent to eat all their victims rather than just killing them like most of the monsters before.
Un-Go
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This show suffers from pretty severe identity disorder. I don't understand who this is supposed to appeal to. Can't be mystery fans because the mystery sucks. The panda kid is also fairly annoying and as out-of-place as I feared.
The mystery features such great stuff as
And then you have a
Also the main detective character is quite boring and has no standout characteristics whatsoever, at least so far.
The show also contains bizarrely written dialogue:
Uh, run that by me again please?
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This show suffers from pretty severe identity disorder. I don't understand who this is supposed to appeal to. Can't be mystery fans because the mystery sucks. The panda kid is also fairly annoying and as out-of-place as I feared.
The mystery features such great stuff as
invisible security guards and a ripoff of The Dark Knight's ending.
random magical character who just solves the mystery with magical powers.
The show also contains bizarrely written dialogue:
Uh, run that by me again please?
DrForester
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Crash Station
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Branduil said:
It was fine until the last one. Wat?
PdotMichael
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Branduil said:
maybe the subs are just horrible or Anne Shirley was the dialogue writer.
Un-go 1 - That was incredibly weird.. I'm getting reminded of [C] in a bad way somewhat, like [C] there seems to be a clash of elements, they are some classy "noitamina"-ish elements in a sense going on through this episode, but at the same time there's a number of anime-izms that kind of distract from the overall experience, that said it wasn't bad at all, and I'd be tempted to say direction-wise - it's one of the better "BONE" first episodes since Star Driver. At this point though, it could go either way in terms of quality, but i see more potential in this than either No.6 or Gosick.
Branduil said:
Weirdly literal translation of 救い in a fairly "poetic" context, I would think (although someone better at Japanese than I am could probably tell you for certain). I interpreted the line as meaning something more like "That's some comfort, anyway." The point being that even heroes
like Kanou
There were a few other things that bugged me in Anime On Demand's (UK legal streaming) translation - translating 堕ちる as "fall" is right, sure, but it's incredibly boring in the context of someone talking about moral degradation.
NeonZ
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Un Go's script writer is Sho Aikawa, who wrote the anime ending for the original FMA... I remember when he tried to write a murder mystery for a certain live action series and it ended up in disaster where the murder's explanation wasn't consistent with the original death scene (they reshot it for the "answer")... I really don't know why anyone would choose him for this.
Edit: I meant FMA, not FMP, sorry.
Edit: I meant FMA, not FMP, sorry.
NeonZ said:
Aikawa and Mizushima have worked together successfully on the original FMA anime (and that ending wasn't that bad... was it? I know everyone hates on it now but I enjoyed it a lot at the time) and Oh! Edo Rocket (which no-one watched, obviously). They've worked well together before, so why not this time? It's not like the mystery doesn't make any sense in this first episode - it's just rushed through.
Other aspects of the adaptation - Inga in particular, the analogue phones in a futuristic world - aren't strong points, but the logic of the murder isn't a problem.
hosannainexcelsis
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BluWacky said:
The original ending to the first FMA anime was good. I can understand people not liking the inconclusive "Come back for the movie!" last episode, but I like its climax better than Brotherhood's.
PdotMichael
Banned
Un-Go 1
It was okay, with a interesting setting. And Inga is cool as shota and busty milf. But, yeah, it feel very rushed, sometimes I wish they would make a two-parter for the start of a new anime. 20 minutes are often too short.
It was okay, with a interesting setting. And Inga is cool as shota and busty milf. But, yeah, it feel very rushed, sometimes I wish they would make a two-parter for the start of a new anime. 20 minutes are often too short.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Ungo 1: This is mostly proof that CSI stories can't be told in 22 minutes. The confession ends up being the last 5-10 minutes of an American crime procedural, but here it ends up being half the episode.
I'll get to Un-Go and Guilty Crown eventually, but for now...
PGSM Ep.03 Now in 4:3!
Right off that bat...WTF? Plot exposition game show?
Hand puppet Luna is on par with Henrietta Pussycat from Mr. Rogers
There were someterrible great sequences in this episode: Dancing Youma, Sailor V (Who looks much more attractive than Usagi) chase, and "Turn into a princes, change!".
Ami looked really weird once she was in her costume, she looked kinda sickly for some reason.
I knew there were bound to be tentacles sooner or later but it's only episode 3.
PGSM Ep.03 Now in 4:3!
Right off that bat...WTF? Plot exposition game show?
Hand puppet Luna is on par with Henrietta Pussycat from Mr. Rogers
There were some
Ami looked really weird once she was in her costume, she looked kinda sickly for some reason.
I knew there were bound to be tentacles sooner or later but it's only episode 3.
Jexhius said:
I see... now I understand better why that difference, the previous season certainly benefited of that approach, yeah.NeonZ said:
That kind of change in the planning, and with fewer material to work in, makes it seem like at first they didn't expected to produce another season, no? Could it be that the apparent success of the animated series was maybe a little sudden for them? Or was it expected but they decided to do it like that anyways for other reasons? Nowadays I think many productions are green-lighted because of a 'very exploitable future' notion in some people's minds.
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