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2011 Fall Anime Thread - Bad Shows & Self Hating Nerds

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Jex

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So I watched some Penguindrum [SPOILERS AHEAD] and I was thinking that this show has some pretty bizarre instances of
foreshadowing
:

For example, before
we know that Yuri is important to the main plot and hodls the second half of the diary she's linked to a 'spinning drum washing machine' much like the Spinning Penguin Drum.

spinningyuri.jpg


In addition, before
the blowfish scene even appears in Masako's flashback we see Himari use one as a stand-in for a Penguin:

blowfishdrum.jpg
 

Regulus Tera

Romanes Eunt Domus
Steins;Gate 20: Now this is more like it. This show is very good when it stops the pandering and gets on the sciencing.

Mirai Nikki 07: So much GAR. The censoring is still fucked up though. :(
Yuno got her happy desserts. :)
 

mAcOdIn

Member
I have to face the possibility that Ben-to as I knew it is over. What was at first a battle show with a male character that occasionally did some funky shit is now Inukami with boxed lunches. If I had a drink I'd pour it out.
 

iavi

Member
I have to face the possibility that Ben-to as I knew it is over. What was at first a battle show with a male character that occasionally did some funky shit is now Inukami with boxed lunches. If I had a drink I'd pour it out.

I poured a 40 out a few eps back. Ep 4 or 5, I think. I saw the writing on the wall.
 

Cwarrior

Member
So I watched some Penguindrum [SPOILERS AHEAD] and I was thinking that this show has some pretty bizarre instances of
foreshadowing
:

For example, before
we know that Yuri is important to the main plot and hodls the second half of the diary she's linked to a 'spinning drum washing machine' much like the Spinning Penguin Drum.

Yuri washing machine ad
was in the same episode that shifted the plot to yuri right at the start of the episode, so I don't think that counts as a foreshadowing if it’s already happened, not sure what you mean by "spinning" penguin drum (only seen up to ep15)
 

hellclerk

Everything is tsundere to me
Mirai Nikki 7
Well, I think that was their most "by the book" episode so far. It wasn't quite as intense, and the twists didn't really hit as hard, but it wasn't bad.
Their salvation at the last second by the apparently now matured terrorist was interesting, but not surprising. What's clear though is that they've got alot to explain to the mother. Man, what a mess. The primary point of interest was the warnings Yuno and Yukiteru received. At first I kind of just assumed that whoever didn't want to become god just killed those who attacked and sort of avoided conflict otherwise. Last one to die of natural causes gets to live forever. But with this whole thing about Deus' body slowly crumbling might throw a sort of wrench into this. I'm not sure of the significance of this wrench, but it's there, and it will likely define how the end-game goes down.

I do wonder though, can it fall on HAPPY END? Of course not, this is Mirai Nikki. EVERYONE is fucked. :D
 

Steroyd

Member
To be fair, the manga drags it on too.

I have come to the conclusion, in all my shoujo watching, that shoujo becomes boring as soon as they get together. Them not getting together and doing the will they or won't they crap for too long is bad too, however.

I've got to give kudos to Hana Yori Dango, the complete differences in their lifestyles and ethics to money actually made believable-ish incompatibilities which was a treat to watch and managed to not annoy the crap out of me when the show went on for so many episodes.

Also helps that the chemistry between them almost doesn't change when they were together which is one of the bigger shoujo trappings when people do couple up during a series run, a shame HYD is an exception to the rule. :|

lol lot of time spent on missing eyes stare and very akward
monologues
.
Get ready for some angst water works because the main girl is more pathetic than your average shojou lead, spends all her time crying about everything and anything.
The manga is still dragging on with no progress for years(been comfired to be ending a long time ago).

Oh. Dear. God T_T
 

Krev

Unconfirmed Member
Yuri washing machine ad
was in the same episode that shifted the plot to yuri right at the start of the episode, so I don't think that counts as a foreshadowing if it’s already happened, not sure what you mean by "spinning" penguin drum (only seen up to ep15)
That's what 'mawaru' means.
 

NewFresh

Member
Hanasaku Iroha 16

The very end was
a lame attempt at a cliffhanger. A phone is ringing! Oh no, what horrible news could be waiting on the other end! Discord with girls' innocent laughter! Also wet shirts! Bah. The phone ringing cliffhanger only works if we have some idea of what there is to fear.

I think this arc was my least favorite of the show. It did little in terms of character development for anyone, though it does have a purpose in the series as a whole. I think that the wet t-shirt scene creeped me out a bit because of how 90's-porno it was. It seemed to have been leading to a huge make-out session...
it didn't.
 
Chihayafuru 3 - This is a quite good show indeed! Yeah, I'll definitely be watching this one. I think this might be the best episode yet. This episode concludes the flashback arc, and it ends in
tears and failure...
huh.
It'd have been nice if they could have won that match... :( Too bad. Also, that ending -- that the three of them are all are going their separate ways because of reasons they only have some control over, and are sad about having to be separated -- was pretty good. I really like that it's not just mono no aware acceptance; quite the opposite, Chihaya is quite distressed over having to be separated from them.
Chihaya is a somewhat odd character, but I like her, I guess. Her friend (the mean guy from eps 1 and 2, now not mean) isn't being mean this time, but still he is the least likable of the three. The other guy, the one very good at Karuta, is quite likable though.

So yeah, good episode in a good show. Watch this series.


Seitokai Yakuindomo 1 - So I started reading the manga, and ... yeah, I didn't know what to expect, but not this (dirty/sex joke-heavy comedy series, not harem!). That got me interested in trying the anime, so I did... and it's basically exactly the same as the manga, but animated. Impressive, I'd have thought some of this stuff would have been censored. I guess not. :)

Japan's view of animation isn't particularly different from USA's view of animation; cartoons are for families, kids and lonely nerds.
Really, you think? I'm not so sure, I think we have somewhat different views of animation really... I guess you're right that there are similarities, but they're not the same. The fact that manga is vastly more popular in Japan than comic books are in the US suggests that there could be a larger market anyway, I'd think, for one thing.
 

Lain

Member
Lupin III: The Castle of Cagliostro

Another great movie, with Zenigata playing a bigger role than in the three previous movies I watched in the last few days. It was a joy to watch from start to end, despite some visual flaws (like some pretty apparent macroblocking and the scene shacking a little during the marriage scenes), of which I'm unsure on the cause, if it's because the masters for the DVD sucked or because the publisher sucked at making the DVD. I'd say something was weird about the AR as well, since the DVD says it's 16:9, but the picture was framed in black borders all around, black borders of differing width/height.
Anyways, old Miyazaki was great, and it felt nostalgic to see a charades that reminded me so much of Future Boy Conan.
 
Mirai Nikki 7

This feels like it should be a strong episode, but the plot holes bother me to no end.

Why is anything hidden from Yuuki to begin with? The nature of his diary should instantly reveal anything malicious about to happen. Why doesn't he want to just kill the kid? Destroying his diary would has the same outcome. At the very least they could restrain the kid, lock him in a bathroom, anything. But no, stupidity and inaction reign supreme in poor fiction for anything of interest to happen. By the nature of the kid's diary a long and drawn out plan to kill Yuuki and Yuno just doesn't work. Their diaries update constantly, so they should have been aware of any plan, and been able to foil anything thought up ahead of time. His diary only maps out three points of the day, but given that anything could easily change the course of time it is illogical that his plan would transpire as he wrote it ahead of time with other diary users altering the future. This becomes especially true if he sends his diary away, and while it is gone Yuno and Yuuki have massive behavioral changes when they find out the kid is a diary user. Realistically, his diary would only work as a reactionary measure when he sees the future change. Then the other stuff that bugged me was just like, the kid sending something in the first place, or a five year old being able to drag a grown woman's body outside, or the envelope having enough gas to keep the house flooded with it for an extended period of time, or the electric shock not killing Yuno (and her not noticing the water to begin with). I know this story isn't supposed to be high thinking or anything, but poorly constructed stuff like this just irks me.


I was under the impression that, within means, Yukki doesnt actually want to kill anyone, similar to the way the other diary user with the one eye has yet to be killed in two instances. Going straight for the kill would have been out of character
 

Defuser

Member
Damn @ Supercell's my dearest single info

Code:
1.My Dearest (アニメ『ギルティクラウン』OP主題歌)
2.罪人
3.大貧民
4.My Dearest (TV Edit)
5.My Dearest -Instrumental-
6.罪人 -Instrumental-
7.大貧民 -Instrumental-
8.My Dearest (TV Edit) -Instrumental-

This is how you should do a single. Always include a instrumental for every song.
 

Steroyd

Member
Mirai Nikki - 07

I was under the impression that, within means, Yukki doesnt actually want to kill anyone, similar to the way the other diary user with the one eye has yet to be killed in two instances. Going straight for the kill would have been out of character

But Minene was willing to blow up a whole school to get to Yukki, maybe she decided that Yuki and Yuno were best to lure all the other diary users like the kid to them, wipe them out and wait for the endgame rather than go out and search for them.

At least the censorship isn't a huge black/white blotch covering the screen.
 
Eden of the East 2

8.2 billions yen, wow!!! Main character is pretty cool, though the oddest thing is that, in the english dub, the mom seems to have the same VA and voice as her daughter (the main female character)...
 

Ryuukan

Member
Gintama 235:

Llcf0.jpg


This arc is becoming the greatest mecha work from Sunrise in ages.

And yes, AMURO VS CHAR prior to Kaien transformation
 

dimb

Bjergsen is the greatest midlane in the world
I was under the impression that, within means, Yukki doesnt actually want to kill anyone, similar to the way the other diary user with the one eye has yet to be killed in two instances. Going straight for the kill would have been out of character
I get that, but letting people who want to kill him run rampant while he just sits around is the apex of idiocy.
 

faridmon

Member
Damn @ Supercell's my dearest single info

Code:
1.My Dearest (アニメ『ギルティクラウン』OP主題歌)
2.罪人
3.大貧民
4.My Dearest (TV Edit)
5.My Dearest -Instrumental-
6.罪人 -Instrumental-
7.大貧民 -Instrumental-
8.My Dearest (TV Edit) -Instrumental-

This is how you should do a single. Always include a instrumental for every song.

I guess you missed Dear Future Single by Coalter of the deepers. Now that is how you do a single!
 

dimb

Bjergsen is the greatest midlane in the world
Only five terrible remixes. As evidenced by the fact that they actually used the Yui Horie one as the ending for episode 10.
I kind of feel like it's overproduced and the vocals don't really have any edge to them.

Dear Future is a great OP song, and it can be catchy once in awhile, but it doesn't really go anywhere after it starts. If I listen to the whole song about halfway through I start to wonder why I'm listening to the whole thing.
You just didn't call Ringo Deathstarr shitty, did you?
I'm not sure what I'm supposed to get out of the Ringo Deathstarr version of the song. It sounds the like the original run through some ear piercing filter.
 

NeonZ

Member
Even a mecha hater can't hate.

Shounen Jump readers hated it in the manga.

Gintama usually hangs near the top of the popularity polls, but it was near the bottom during the rankings for these chapters and took a while to recover afterwards. Although I guess this explains why modern Shounen Jump has no mecha manga...
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
NeonZ said:
Shounen Jump readers hated it in the manga.

Gintama usually hangs near the top of the popularity polls, but it was near the bottom during the rankings for these chapters and took a while to recover afterwards. Although I guess this explains why modern Shounen Jump has no mecha mangas...
Hrm. Then who is watching all this new Gundam stuff then?
 

faridmon

Member
I kind of feel like it's overproduced and the vocals don't really have any edge to them.

Dear Future is a great OP song, and it can be catchy once in awhile, but it doesn't really go anywhere after it starts. If I listen to the whole song about halfway through I start to wonder why I'm listening to the whole thing.

I'm not sure what I'm supposed to get out of the Ringo Deathstarr version of the song. It sounds the like the original run through some ear piercing filter.

I think you are going to thier songs with a wrong mindset. the ear piesrcing filter and the repetetition is just a shoegazy charastics that those bands have. Its quite Lo-Fi and the drone just goes overboard with thier songs, but thats how it is with thier way of playing. If you have experienced former Ringo Deathstarr or Coalter of the deepers, i think you would have appreaciate it more.

I have listened to a lot of shoegzing songs this year and all of them have those elements that you are just complaining about, so maybe its quite specific.
 

Ryuukan

Member
Shounen Jump readers hated it in the manga.

Gintama usually hangs near the top of the popularity polls, but it was near the bottom during the rankings for these chapters and took a while to recover afterwards. Although I guess this explains why modern Shounen Jump has no mecha mangas...

The impact of
Amuro and Char's voices
and the entire transformation sequence can not be properly expressed in print media.
 

NeonZ

Member
Heh, aren't they all the same 15 year old boys though?

Not really sure. I think the main target audience for something like Unicorn is mostly older fans who have been into Gundam for a while, not 15 years old teens.

The audience voting in Shounen Jump popularity polls are probably younger kids and otaku focused on very specific series (although I think the numbers Shounen Jump pulls compared to anime in general suggests that it's a broader audience reading it).
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
NeonZ said:
Not really sure. I think the main target audience for something like Unicorn is mostly older fans who have been into Gundam for a while, not 15 years old teens.

The audience voting in Shounen Jump popularity polls are probably younger kids and otaku focused on very specific series (although I think the numbers Shounen Jump pulls compared to anime in general suggests that it's a broader audience reading it).
There's Gundam Age though. Then again, Gundam is a weird franchise I suppose.
 

Steroyd

Member
Bokura Ga Ita 14 - 16

My word, there was about 4 or 5 different backgrond songs played in episode 16 alone, they're really overselling this.
 

Jex

Member
*PENGUIN DRUM SPOILERS*
Yuri washing machine ad
was in the same episode that shifted the plot to yuri right at the start of the episode, so I don't think that counts as a foreshadowing if it’s already happened, not sure what you mean by "spinning" penguin drum (only seen up to ep15)
Well
the title of the show is Spinning Penguin Drum, and we've assumed that the diary is the Penguin Drum, so having Yuri associated with that idea before it was revelead that she had the diary might be foreshadowing
.
 

xxczx

Member
Eden of the East: The King of Eden

waat.
I have no idea what was going on in some parts during the last 30mins. I feel like I should've watched Air Communication before I watched it. Either way, it was a disappointment compared to the series and hope Paradise Lost is better. Gunna attempt to watch it again (and the recap) before I order Lost Paradise bluray.
 
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