ItWasMeantToBe19
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Millsap-Al doesn't seem work, they have to take turns like Bron-Wade. One will probably have to be moved in the offseason for a SG.
The Frankman said:That's what the offseason is for. They still have Jerome Jordan's rights and I expect him to be in camp. Maybe sign Barron and see a few guys get cut... the foundation is there, now build around it. I don't get this "3rd star" business people keep spouting. Unless that guy is Dwight, Knicks just need to sign good role players. It would be HILARIOUS if Knicks re-signed Wilson Chandler in the offseason (they won't, of course).
But the offense at least ran okay. Plus in Milwaukee the 2nd quarter I hear the Knicks blitzed them.
Kogepan said:i think i asked this question before...but wasn't the consensus that the Knicks really have very little wiggle room this summer? If they don't dump Billups they are near the cap and really just have their own first round draft pick this year? They also have to re-sign fields after next year since he's a 2nd round draft pick. The only way they can get decent cap space is to renounce Billips/Fields, which would make things even worse.
They can't sign a 3rd major star, but they don't have to he the fricking Heat here. They have a 7-footer playing in Serbia they own, plus how much does a role player cost? They won't have a ton of space, but they're far from being "capped out" plus I believe they have one of the player exemptions left (don't think they used one this year). What, you think Fields will ask for 5/60 or something?Kogepan said:i think i asked this question before...but wasn't the consensus that the Knicks really have very little wiggle room this summer? If they don't dump Billups they are near the cap and really just have their own first round draft pick this year? They also have to re-sign fields after next year since he's a 2nd round draft pick. The only way they can get decent cap space is to renounce Billips/Fields, which would make things even worse.
The Frankman said:They can't sign a 3rd major star, but they don't have to he the fricking Heat here. They have a 7-footer playing in Serbia they own, plus how much does a role player cost? They're far from being capped out. What you think Fields will ask for 5/60 or something?
I will say this, I doubt he asks for that much + new CBA. All Jerome Jordan has to be is as good as Mozgov was this... WTF when have you seen him play? Dude is in Serbia and coming out of college was a shotblocker/defensive guy. As long as he does that I'm fine.ItWasMeantToBe19 said:Most players on Fields' level get 5/34, Jerome Jordan sucks.
Black Mamba said:What happened to Duncan?
The Frankman said:I will say this, I doubt he asks for that much + new CBA. All Jerome Jordan has to be is as good as Mozgov was this... WTF when have you seen him play? Dude is in Serbia and coming out of college was a shotblocker/defensive guy. As long as he does that I'm fine.
The Crimson Blur said:I think the Spurs are at a crossroads right now, and the next few weeks could decide the fate of their season. The Lakers game gave Pop a scare so he switched Dice to the starting role. I think that is a bad decision for a number of reasons. First off, that makes Bonner and Blair come off the bench initially, which is just murder for us offensively and defensively. Neither of those guys have chemistry with the other; in fact, in the 2 years they have been with one another, I can't remember a single play they converted together. They aren't used to being on the floor together and their playstyles don't mesh. Its a bad match.
Blair-Duncan on the other hand is a rebounding force. Blair defends the quick players, and deflects all the balls down low while Timmy swats them up high. Its a defensive tandem that works great. Now, Duncan-Dice is even better, but something is lost on the offensive end. Besides, we have to play Blair anyhow, so isn't it better to put him in the role he is most comfortable in? Its not like playing him his normal minutes but off the bench is going to help anything.
Then there is the Tiago/Novak conundrum...those two have been playing better and better every time we see them. Its a bit late to incorporate them imo, but I'm sure Pop's considering it.
Its an issue you wouldn't expect us to have at this point, especially with our record, but we have seen this happen before. Pop has made key last minute decisions in our championship years (think Nazr). I'm curious to see what he ends up deciding.
That's what I have been looking at, plus the updates I've read is that he's worked on D and is looking good. I hadn't heard much on O.ItWasMeantToBe19 said:wtf are you talking about? Jereme Jordan was a good offensive player in college who didn't defend at all.
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Jerome-Jordan-5160/
I don't see why a hard cap would end guaranteed contracts.ESPN said:The NBA says more than half its teams are losing money -- more than $300 million a year, it has said -- as it demands sweeping changes to the CBA.
Hunter disputed that. "Our belief," Hunter said, "is that a small number of teams are suffering, and their problems can be addressed through revenue sharing."
Hunter also said that the key negotiating point for the players is the NBA's push for a hard salary cup, rather than a "franchise tag" or some other limit on the movement of top players.
Hunter says a hard cap would effectively end guaranteed contracts which he calls "the lifeblood" of professional basketball. "We've had that right for years, and it's not something we're trying to give up."
Cmon man. We both know that if he was here he would be playing at 1/10th his potential.Rodeo Clown said:That's really not bad. Gomes is a solid role player. I wish the Gomes and Babbitt for Webster deal could be undone. I miss his steady mediocrity.
I can't believe David Kahn has made me long for the Ryan Gomes era.
The Frankman said:They can't sign a 3rd major star, but they don't have to he the fricking Heat here. They have a 7-footer playing in Serbia they own, plus how much does a role player cost? They won't have a ton of space, but they're far from being "capped out" plus I believe they have one of the player exemptions left (don't think they used one this year). What, you think Fields will ask for 5/60 or something?
He means bloated contracts given out to role players having a good year that revert back to scrub levels shortly after. He's worried all those big contracts given to undeserving guys like Varejao, won't be around in a hard cap era.Rodeo Clown said:I don't see why a hard cap would end guaranteed contracts.
But this is going to be a long lockout. Hope you guys like hockey or soccer or something.
obijkenobi said:I think a lot of this depends on how Splitter plays while Tim is out. If he earns Pop's trust, I wouldn't mind seeing Tim and Tiago start together the last week of the season. That lets Dice come off the bench as the first big and Pop can put in Blair/Bonner/Novak as the situation calls for.
That said, I'm not expecting big numbers from Tiago. What I want to see is Oberto 2.0 Tiago doesn't have the handles/hands that Oberto did but what he does better than Oberto is slide his feet on defense, set better pick and rolls, and roll to the basket very well which puts pressure on the defense. We don't need much offense from Tiago with TP, Manu, TD, and RJ playing around him in this hypothetical starting line up.
obijkenobi said:And don't forget Bonner likes to disappear around play off time. Robert Horry he is not.
Several owners have been heard saying that they gave out the contracts they did last summer under the anticipation that they'll be able to write chunks of them off/down.Black Mamba said:I'm not buying that half the teams are losing money. A few teams no doubt, but not half. Just look at how much recent teams have been sold for and the big contracts given out. There's a big disconnect between what Stern is saying and the truth
Sucks.@ArtGarcia_NBA: Sean Elliott reports Tim Duncan (ankle) will be out 2 weeks.
reilo said:Sucks.
The Frankman said:That's what I have been looking at, plus the updates I've read is that he's worked on D and is looking good. I hadn't heard much on O.
giri said:Several owners have been heard saying that they gave out the contracts they did last summer under the anticipation that they'll be able to write chunks of them off/down.
I wouldn't be surprised if 10 out of the 30 teams are losing money. I know that the NBA had to take out loans for 7 teams last season.
Reilo said:Sucks.
The Crimson Blur said:*snip*
Black Mamba said:yeah, i heard that too. But that's not how they really run a business. Just a bunch of posturing.
Also don't buy that all the teams that took loans were necessarily losing money.
If an owner was truly losing money, why wouldn't they sell? The value of the franchise is clearly more than its earning potential (based on recent sales) and it would make more sense to sell or at least test the market. But, for the most part, they're not.
Sure, New Orleans is losing money (but it can't be that much if Stern was willing to take on salary). And Dallas I believe because Cuban doesn't care if it's the case. But look at the Hawks. Their attendance blows and they still overpaid Joe Johnson knowing that no matter what they're going to be committed to him even if that contract is rolled back a little bit.
It's bogus. The Lakers just signed a $3 billion 10 year deal with Time-Warner. Now I know, they're the Lakers, but that is quite an insane deal. $300 million per year for a team that right now is spending $100 million on players (I assure you the operating costs don't cost $200 million).
The NBA has things it needs fixed. Revenue sharing would probably help and I do agree contracts should be shorter and probably at less value, but the NBA is healthy and I really doubt more than a handful of teams aren't making money or projected to make money really soon.
Zep said:How are the Lakers locking up these billion dollar deals with Kobe at the end of his career? Jerry Buss must laugh himself to sleep.
Ninja Scooter said:Sustained excellence. Once Kobe is gone another star will come to LA. That's just the way it goes.
ItWasMeantToBe19 said:The Lakers had zero major free agent signings in the 2000s.
ItWasMeantToBe19 said:The Lakers had zero major free agent signings in the 2000s.
Ninja Scooter said:They traded for Kareem and Wilt. It's not always about signing players as free agents (hell the draft picks used to get Magic and Worthy were also via trade, and Kobe was added the same way)
But Buss always finds a way to bring stars to LA and put an exciting product on the floor. TWC knows this.
Zep said:Orlando is already writing that script for L.A. But to think you'll get another Magic, Worthy, Kobe on top of that is getting ahead of yourself.
Zep said:Orlando is already writing that script for L.A. But to think you'll get another Magic, Worthy, Kobe on top of that is getting ahead of yourself.
obijkenobi said:Well thats why I said the next few weeks will give Splitter a chance to get into the playoff rotation. If he can play as well as he did tonight on the road trip, then Pop should at least consider it.
obijkenobi said:Tiago is not a shot blocker, but he has good side to side mobility and keeps his hands up.
obijkenobi said:Against a team like the Lakers, his size would come in very handy. That way Pau and Bynum wouldn't be able to just shoot over a starting Blair. Again, this is assuming he actually improves and doens't regress.
obijkenobi said:Remember the dude has basically been injured all year and all I really want is Oberto 2.0 out of him. Oberto wasn't a shot blocker either but he kept loose balls alive and helped keep some fluidity in the offense.
obijkenobi said:I still don't trust Bonner to come through in the playoffs. But I think Neal will. That dude has a set on him.
Ninja Scooter said:Not saying that. But look at the numbers. The Lakers have missed the playoffs only 5 times in the last 50 years. They have been involved in about half of every NBA Finals series ever played. HALF. They find a way to put together great teams, whether it's stacked like the 80s teams, or two stars like Shaq and Kobe, or the current team Kobe and Pau. And they always are one of the top draws around the league. This is what Time Warner is banking on, even with Kobe in the twilight of his career.
The Crimson Blur said:I'm keeping my fingers crossed. You never know with these things. After all, Ron Artest and Trevor Ariza just won the Lakers rings. Who could have predicted that?
Zep said:I'm just looking at the talent being spread really fucking thin at the moment. But then I could be wrong with Williams eventually becoming a FA along with Paul. Then you throw in a Dwight Howard who knows he'll never win a title with Orlando, possibly leaving. So yea, maybe TWC knows what they're doing. Jackson won't be around coaching but that would be the least of the problems if players go there.
edit; I figured Bynum and a few others would be off the books by the time Howard became a FA.
reilo said:Sucks.
Black Mamba said:yeah, i heard that too. But that's not how they really run a business. Just a bunch of posturing.
Also don't buy that all the teams that took loans were necessarily losing money.
If an owner was truly losing money, why wouldn't they sell? The value of the franchise is clearly more than its earning potential (based on recent sales) and it would make more sense to sell or at least test the market. But, for the most part, they're not.
Sure, New Orleans is losing money (but it can't be that much if Stern was willing to take on salary). And Dallas I believe because Cuban doesn't care if it's the case. But look at the Hawks. Their attendance blows and they still overpaid Joe Johnson knowing that no matter what they're going to be committed to him even if that contract is rolled back a little bit.
It's bogus. The Lakers just signed a $3 billion 10 year deal with Time-Warner. Now I know, they're the Lakers, but that is quite an insane deal. $300 million per year for a team that right now is spending $100 million on players (I assure you the operating costs don't cost $200 million).
The NBA has things it needs fixed. Revenue sharing would probably help and I do agree contracts should be shorter and probably at less value, but the NBA is healthy and I really doubt more than a handful of teams aren't making money or projected to make money really soon.
If it's the Tony Parker timetable, he'll be playing next game!
jobber said:The Warriors are THUGS and parasitic troglodytes to the league.
jobber said:WE.ARE.FUCKED.
If I remember right, Duncan got hurt vs. the Warriors in Oakland and came back after halftime. The Warriors are THUGS and parasitic troglodytes to the league.
If we lose HCA through the Finals, this whole season would be a bust. Ain't no more Bobcats coming to town..got games vs Nuggs Blazers and Grizz (might be the 1st round match up) coming up + the Cz coming to town on the 31st. FML
Least they're not robert horry.LiveFromKyoto said:Golly, you're right. They're almost as bad as Bruce Bowen!
teruterubozu said:Yes! Time for Lakers to work on HCA. Sorry, shitty sentiment but we'll take it.
giri said:The lakers are the exception to the rule, and the knicks (god knows how) seem to be also, charging the highest ticket prices in the league. The run on the large market theory, and reap the rewards of it. There's only one team in the league with a $3b tv rights deal, not 30.