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2012-13 Oct/Nov NBA Season |OT| Mavericks Attempt To Defend Title
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darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Also its kind of fucked up how Lakers management already threw D'Antoni under the bus before they even hired him. Why even tease Phil out there if you aren't going to make it look like hes the one who turned down the job? Now fans are going to be pissed at that too. If Pringles really was the guy all along then they should have just simply hired him.
Ninja Scooter
Member
my guess is that negotiations with Phil hit a snag over personnel power and him wanting a stake in ownership.
lol if Jackson was asking for a stake in ownership its not unreasonble that the buss family went in another direction.
and we don't know the extent of his travel restrictions - I can't imagine him missing a lot of road games (along with the entire off-season / pre-season) to bode well with attempts to salvage this messy situation.
Phil is a great basketball mind and will probably end up marrying the dude's daughter. For whatever reason he wants his son to run the team into the ground.
Liquidsnake
Banned
As they should have. If you owned the Lakers, you would not be so easy to give up your stake in the team.
Phil may be GOAT, but its not his team. Put a ring on it if you want in man!
yup... it doesn't really make sense to give him a stake in the franchise for the possibility (albeit a good one) of getting a ring. that would be an extremely dumb business decision.
Ninja Scooter
Member
I thought it was unrealistic for Phil (or anyone, including Mike) to come in during the season, with no camp and no preseason, and try and successfully implement a new system with a group of guys that were already struggling to learn a new offense. I wish they would have just rode it out with an interim and then made a smart, educated and patient decision on head coach in the offseason.
Adam Blade
WWKC
Sample size is you and dark... so...
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
D'antoni system will be Nash/Duhon. Thats is another plus to hiring him he will likely be able to give the Lakers the level of PG play to make it work....until he runs both Nash and Duhon into the ground. I cannot emphasize enough how bad of an idea it is to get somebody like D'antoni who naturally likes to avoid going deep into his bench on a team that lacks a reliably decent 6th man and has aging starters.
Adam Blade
WWKC
would agree if this was say miami or OKC. But this team is old... you make your move as fast as you can and salvage whatever time you have. Who knows how much longer you have with a productive Nash or Kobe.
But now that D'antoni is the coach they need to make some changes. MWP is a horrible fit... no idea what they are going to do with him. And while I love Gasol they should try to see what they could get for him. If they can pick up a some good shooters / solid bench role players, they should go for it. Their offense needs to be centered around Nash and Dwight and Kobe getting his. Other then that they need guys to make their 3s and keep the floor open.
Might sound kind of ridiculous but I think Bargnani + Calderon for Gasol makes a lot of sense for the Lakers. They get a very solid back up pg who can take care of the ball and run the second unit, and Bargnani is a pretty good shooter who will make open shots. Calderon will be able to provide much needed relief for Nash who can take it easy untill the playoffs and I think Calderon will get a big boost from D'antoni's system.
And then we get rid of Bargnani and Calderon...lol
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
Amare for Gasol.... and a first rounder
Ninja Scooter
Member
I just question how well it would have ended either way.
Dion Blaster
Member
Jerry Buss, Jim Buss, and Mitch Kupchak were unanimous in their decision to go with D'Antoni. Say what you want about Jim but I trust the other two.
Rodeo Clown
All aboard! The Love train!
To be fair, would you want to play those guys on the Lakers bench?
Phil is 70 years old, doubt he's getting married at this point.
Ninja Scooter
Member
To be extra fair, Kobe and Nash and Pau have this and another season left with this team. Run them as far into the ground all you want.
not saying D'antoni was a bad decision (I think he was your best option after Jackson) but I can't imagine word getting out that they weren't on the same page. Shit would be even crazier in Lakers land if that was the case. Remember all that unanimous support for Brown a week ago? Ya... ok.
shira
Member
So this was BC's plan all along. Trade bargs and calderon for 2020 2nd round pick
Dion Blaster
Member
Kobe has loved D'Antoni from the beginning.
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
you realize Jordan Hill is in D'antoni's Doghouse already cause he never left it in NY he was just traded.
Red Blaster
Member
Appears that Dwight needs Ryan Anderson more than Ryan Anderson needs him
fuk you dr blade
you deserve dumbandre for life
fuk you dr blade
you deserve dumbandre for life
Dion Blaster
Member
It actually got out that Mitch wanted to give him more time and Jim said no.
ryutaro's mama
Member
Ladies and gentleman, h3ro has new source material and reasons to post certain pics.
:/
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Herpes Reasons
Banned
he adamantly defends jim buss.
pretty sure he's the mole of laker-age.
wait wat.
Adam Blade
WWKC
Best center in the West.
Ya'll gon get that work!
ryutaro's mama
Member
I admit, I laughed.
Mike D'antoni was the best decision with Phil Jackson out the picture just because Kobe and Nash get along with / respect him...
I think Sloan would need an entire off season to get any real success out of this season, and Nash's crappy defense wouldn't really work here. As for their next option, Dunleavy, well...lol. SVG wouldn't come because of the whole Dwight ordeal, and JVG seems happy commentating. Shaw is too risky - he's never been an NBA head coach and he's already under contractual obligations. Only other guy that would work is McMillan but he probably doesn't command the respect from the locker room that is going to be necessary to immediately rectify the situation.
Too bad they went with Brown instead of Adelman... I'm a huge fan of Adelman.
I think Sloan would need an entire off season to get any real success out of this season, and Nash's crappy defense wouldn't really work here. As for their next option, Dunleavy, well...lol. SVG wouldn't come because of the whole Dwight ordeal, and JVG seems happy commentating. Shaw is too risky - he's never been an NBA head coach and he's already under contractual obligations. Only other guy that would work is McMillan but he probably doesn't command the respect from the locker room that is going to be necessary to immediately rectify the situation.
Too bad they went with Brown instead of Adelman... I'm a huge fan of Adelman.
Knux-Future
Banned
I can't even
ryutaro's mama
Member
Who knew that I would long for Mike Brown photos getting posted?
This is like asking your parents to buy you an iPad for Christmas and instead you get a Kindle Fire.
FML
This is like asking your parents to buy you an iPad for Christmas and instead you get a Kindle Fire.
FML
The L stands for Lakers here... 
DietRob
i've been begging for over 5 years.
Hi NBA-Gaf.
I'll be honest I've never really been a fan of basketball. I mean I played street ball plenty as a kid. I just never got into organized basketball.
However, my 12 year old son loves it. This will be his second year on a team and they have asked me to help coach the team. I said yes. So here is where I need your help.
I need to brush up on my basketball IQ. I already know I want to watch the Lakers. But I need a second team to follow and watch too. If anyone says Heat. I'm going to lose my mind.
Help me out NBA-Gaf. Show me the way.
I'll be honest I've never really been a fan of basketball. I mean I played street ball plenty as a kid. I just never got into organized basketball.
However, my 12 year old son loves it. This will be his second year on a team and they have asked me to help coach the team. I said yes. So here is where I need your help.
I need to brush up on my basketball IQ. I already know I want to watch the Lakers. But I need a second team to follow and watch too. If anyone says Heat. I'm going to lose my mind.
Help me out NBA-Gaf. Show me the way.
Herpes Reasons
Banned
I can't even
i feel you brah.
3 fucking years of this defenseless clown.
my pick goes to memphies. offensively balanced team with post players and shooters
ryutaro's mama
Member
They were both assistants together in Bejing and London with Coach K.
I think they get along pretty well.
Olympics was a temporary stint for a couple of months and a service to his country.
Being a full-time assistant? I think Nate thinks he's above that. It's not about them getting along or anything. Just my hunch.
Liquidsnake
Banned
Becuase Phil wanted the other two's jobs basically.
Look I love Phil, and will never forget what he did for this franchise, but you know what he treated Jerry West like shit, and never gave anyone too much respect. He wanted to bring in Scottie Pippen? I could already tell this was a last cash grab for him and his friends.
If said "ok I will coach this team" it would have been fine, but to ask for 12 Million, final roster decisions, a stake in the organization etc.............. Sorry dude.
Red Blaster
Member
Just watch Spurs games and copy Gregg Popovich
Check out some of Coach Nick's videos too... as for another team, I'd go with San Antonio.
Liquidsnake
Banned
For the life of me, I will never understand this ever.
Perfect team to build fundamentals of team basketball.